Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
What, specifically, can we do to help a jounin we don't know?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
- Location
- USA
[X] Training Hazou: Almost full chakra
[X] Training Noburi: Summoner preparation
Chakra Reserves 21 -> 25 (188 XP)
Save 270 XP
Once Noburi's a summoner, he'll solve combat problems by summoning a toad and letting it sort things out for him.
[X] Training Akane: None
[X] Training Keiko: A good Summoner dodges
Athletics 40 -> 50 (455 XP)
Chakra Reserves 26 -> 27 (54 XP)
Save 37 XP
If Keiko is going on big-name missions, she needs better dodge in order to not die. A little extra CR gives her more boost or more summons.
[X] Training Noburi: Summoner preparation
Chakra Reserves 21 -> 25 (188 XP)
Save 270 XP
Once Noburi's a summoner, he'll solve combat problems by summoning a toad and letting it sort things out for him.
[X] Training Akane: None
[X] Training Keiko: A good Summoner dodges
Athletics 40 -> 50 (455 XP)
Chakra Reserves 26 -> 27 (54 XP)
Save 37 XP
If Keiko is going on big-name missions, she needs better dodge in order to not die. A little extra CR gives her more boost or more summons.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I feel your pain(?).
- Location
- Italy
We know her, we talked to her to obtain information on the Battle Of the Gods IIRC. On "What do to?", We can simply talk to her, share our feeling of helplessness(That she probably shares), talk about Uplift, ask for training, even ask Mari how to approach her(i would have said "offer her adoption" before the whole Akatsuki incident, but now our situation is too complicated) so...pretty much anything? Our lack of knowledge of Minori isn't because of some particular difficulty in talking to her, just a lack of interest in doing so.
Even a simple "Get to know Minori" or "Spend time with Minori" would be fine in my opinion.
- Location
- Yes.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Did Keiko do off-screen training? I seem to recall she had time to do so before the Condor Summoner hunt...
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Timeskip Plan: Let's do the timewarp again
- Location
- Kiev, Ukraine
That's a mixed bag: I can't do anything productive, or at least meaningful, but the game is so great that I can't muster up enough strength to care.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Added Spend time with Minori. I'd appreciate your vote. I may not understand exactly why you want it but it's not harmful at least!
- Location
- Yes.
Unless she's one of the ones who knows we actually did a treason.
- Location
- Italy
[X] Timeskip Plan: Let's do the timewarp again
My reasoning is simple: the same thing we're trying to do with Haru, only with a Jonin that is highly receptive to Uplift. We're not getting minions if we don't work on it.
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- Yes.
IIRC the Pangolins were supposed to safely get XP from this as the incentive...but that doesn't work mechanically.
- Location
- USA
There's other merit to the idea. For instance, testing new formations and seeing what works on a squad level.
- Location
- Yes.
Tactical practice is a thing, yes, but it's hampered by the fact that the Pangolins summoned into the Human Realm are dispelled far faster than flesh-and-blood Pangolins in the Summoning Realm.
There's also:
And the food benefits
Supposedly,
which would make food more important if true.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
- Pronouns
- S/H/T
[X] Let Velorien write EJ's beach update
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
[X] Timeskip Plan: Let's do the timewarp again
Gotta find out if those light seals will grow plants. If they do, it could be great for agriculture. 24/7 light for growing, and ability to grow underground or indoors would be huge.
Gotta find out if those light seals will grow plants. If they do, it could be great for agriculture. 24/7 light for growing, and ability to grow underground or indoors would be huge.
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- Location
- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I'm back. Unrelated: a friendly reminder that relatives =/= family.
[x] We trust you Velorien, write what you want
[x] Training Hazou: Almost full chakra
[x] Training Keiko: A good Summoner dodges
[x] Training Akane: None
[x] Training Noburi: Summoner preparation
I'd give a cursory check with Kagome to see where they're naturally inclined to and then check with them to see if they have any particular passions or areas of interest. But otherwise, I like the idea.
[x] We trust you Velorien, write what you want
[x] Training Hazou: Almost full chakra
[x] Training Keiko: A good Summoner dodges
[x] Training Akane: None
[x] Training Noburi: Summoner preparation
My reasoning:
- Action:
- I find it rude to ask Velorien write the chapter that Eaglejarl wanted to write, especially when Eaglejarl mentioned that Velorien had stuff he wanted to do next chapter. It's unintentional rudeness, since we're overcorrecting in an attempt to be mindful, but it still strikes me as rude. I'd rather Velorien write what he wants to for this chapter and then have the next action plan be a beach day for Eaglejarl to write to his heart's content. Or, since the rules say that training/action plans are suggestions, let Velorien have free rein.
- Keiko:
- She almost died with Conjura, even though she wasn't fazed by fighting a boss summon. Her inability to dodge almost killed her, if not for spacetime oddities.
- Her self esteem is high right now. Proper support could help mitigate/get rid of her self loathing. An encounter Snowflake would shatter that.
- Akane:
- Not sure what her skills are off the top of my head and I'm too drained to go hunting for a link to her character sheet right now. We can spend it later.
- Noburi:
- Let's bump his chakra points up to where he's a viable summoner, then, later on, use the remaining xp to spec him as needed to better fit the toads
- Hazou:
- We need more chakra for SC and I find myself interested in what a prolonged conversation with himself would look like.
I'd give a cursory check with Kagome to see where they're naturally inclined to and then check with them to see if they have any particular passions or areas of interest. But otherwise, I like the idea.
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- how about no
One relaxing yet still useful activity Hazou should consider would be reading personal memoirs of Hashirama (if they exist) or factual recollections of his life (as unbiased as possible). It would give Hazou something to contemplate as he tries to achieve something similar with his Uplift plans and it would be nice to point out to all of the life ninja that:
"Look, no one is perfect. See? Here's a historical account of a time/event where even Hashirama wasn't perfect all of the time and he still ended up founding Leaf. Please stop threatening to execute me for every mistake I make. Thanks."
While we're at it we might as well have him read some basic protocol for Leaf ninja too. Maybe even have Haru fill him in on all of the obvious stuff any random Leaf ninja would know. I'm starting to lose track of how many times we've been kill-boxed but we're burning far too much political capital for the same IC mistakes over and over again.
I am aware that we sent the letters ages ago and that there is another letter still out there. Let's focus on what we can attempt to fix: Hazou's struggle to acclimate to Leaf society. Yes, being an outsider can have its perks when it comes to thinking of unorthodox solutions but at this point it no longer should be a weakness of his.
I will also note though that every time we act on our own, even if it is for Leaf's benefit, we have been severely undermining Asuma's authority (even if it was done under Hiashi's administration, yada yada yada, it still doesn't matter, we flaunted the authority of the institution). The next time he gives us an unpleasant mission we need to complete it to the letter. Furthermore, Asuma has every right to ask us if we will be willing to follow the orders of his successor absolutely as loyal Leaf shinobi should or if he should be concerned about us ignoring the office of the Hokage whenever we feel like it. Our whole relationship with authority is a mess right now... ugh...
The more I think on this the more I'm reminded of a certain IRL stumbling, stuttering failure of a Cheeto. Bleh.
"Look, no one is perfect. See? Here's a historical account of a time/event where even Hashirama wasn't perfect all of the time and he still ended up founding Leaf. Please stop threatening to execute me for every mistake I make. Thanks."
While we're at it we might as well have him read some basic protocol for Leaf ninja too. Maybe even have Haru fill him in on all of the obvious stuff any random Leaf ninja would know. I'm starting to lose track of how many times we've been kill-boxed but we're burning far too much political capital for the same IC mistakes over and over again.
I am aware that we sent the letters ages ago and that there is another letter still out there. Let's focus on what we can attempt to fix: Hazou's struggle to acclimate to Leaf society. Yes, being an outsider can have its perks when it comes to thinking of unorthodox solutions but at this point it no longer should be a weakness of his.
I will also note though that every time we act on our own, even if it is for Leaf's benefit, we have been severely undermining Asuma's authority (even if it was done under Hiashi's administration, yada yada yada, it still doesn't matter, we flaunted the authority of the institution). The next time he gives us an unpleasant mission we need to complete it to the letter. Furthermore, Asuma has every right to ask us if we will be willing to follow the orders of his successor absolutely as loyal Leaf shinobi should or if he should be concerned about us ignoring the office of the Hokage whenever we feel like it. Our whole relationship with authority is a mess right now... ugh...
The more I think on this the more I'm reminded of a certain IRL stumbling, stuttering failure of a Cheeto. Bleh.