- Location
- Yes.
I will observe that any mission to get these things are not best suited for us.
Why? Because we have horrid Steath. Like, the worst.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Why? Because we have horrid Steath. Like, the worst.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
I however will vote for any plan that competently executes anything in the general vecinity of "heist."
Criteria:
Criteria:
- Make a lot of money doing something exciting and/or illegal
- No significant risk of political fallout, OPSEC breaches, or death
- (Optional bonus) Includes punching
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Yep.
ONLY make a lot of money? That's rough.
- Location
- Yes.
[+] Heist Forever
- Go back to Konoha and make explosives. Lots of fucking explosives.
- Sell them to the Tower. Get money.
- Give money to Noburi. Ask him to put it all in his room.
- Make a plan to steal money from Noburi. Execute it.
- Spend the rest of your life lighthousing.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
NB: That isn't how voting works here.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If we plan it right we shouldn't have to roll a single check. Also ideally we will go against civilians for our first job.
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- Location
- Yes.
...Are we stealing from a village in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, because any theft for stuff worth stealing is gonna involve ninjas?
Indeed.
[] Proto-plan: Heist
- Suggest that Kei will come back once she's calmed down, but until then we don't have much ability to force the issue. What with her running away to a dimension Hazou can't reach her, and all.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Love it. Can't do a big job cause it's to risky. Can't do a small job cause the payout it too low. That's a real good catch-22 you got going on there
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
That is, indeed, the sort of thing people attempt to design their security systems to be like.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
[+] Heist
Steal Keiko from the summon realm.
Steal Keiko from the summon realm.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Sure but he wasn't talking about an individual security system. He was saying that no where in the whole world would work for two opposite reasons
What actually are the issues we have to deal with right now? The timeline is so twisted I can't keep track.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Gotta keep Keiko from boofing back to the summon realm.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Things we need to do is convince Keiko to come back. Prepare for the second Ami meeting. Figure out if we want to ask the Yakuza for any thing before we leave. Create a pitch to J-man about Hidden Mountain
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
The timeline has mostly resolved, actually. All the tournament matches have been shown and we've covered Hazou, Keiko, and Noburi's actions up until the end of the Finals. This includes the first Ami meeting, the first Ami letter, Keiko's departure to the Seventh Path, and the second Ami letter.
Our main tasks right now are to talk some sense into Keiko and then plan the next Ami meeting, and that's about it.
Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
[ ] Find Naruto.
[✓] Ensure a Gouketsu wins the tournament.
[ ] Keep Keiko from imploding (both herself and the EN)
[ ] Ensure Jiraiya keeps the hat.
[ ] Achieve "Uplift."
[ ] Solve:
- Economics (Instrumental)
- Sealing (Instrumental)
- Aging
- Death
- Entropy
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- Location
- Yes.
Do you know why I asked about training plans in the last page, before pointing out to MadScientist that our Stealth was too low to do a heist worth heisting? It was to draw attention to the idea of training our Stealth (and related skills) to an acceptable high level such that we could carry out a successful heist. That is a plan to get a heist going that I would be willing to vote for.
But sure, I'm just another risk-averse player who doesn't ever want to do anything, while putting everyone else into Catch 22s.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I'm not sure I'd support leveling stealth over Chakra Reserves or Sealing/Calligraphy for the sake of a heist. A lot of our long term plans revolve around having high XP throughput (Shadow Clones) and modifying our capabilities with seals (Sealing).
To be fair, Silence Mines do put us at a bit of an advantage as far as stealth goes. And there's nothing saying we have to be stealthy on a heist. We could make a distraction by sending Panashe with a firelog to kamikaze herself on the other side of the--
We have Panashe.
We're idiots.
This problem, like all others, is solved by having summoning scrolls and the chakra to use them.
We really need to get scrolls for Hazou and Noburi...
We have Panashe.
We're idiots.
This problem, like all others, is solved by having summoning scrolls and the chakra to use them.
We really need to get scrolls for Hazou and Noburi...
Time spent planning and executing a heist is time not spent in a casino. Doing both lowers profit while dramatically increasing risk.
-and the risk is enormous. Getting caught, or even just accused plausibly enough for the other motivated Kage to agree, would be devastating. At the very least Leaf's bond would be forfeit. It could probably be interpreted as an act of war. Hiashi gets the hat, everybody dies.
I've got nothing in principle against going out and conducting a heist under ordinary conditions, but this is not the time. About the best thing I can say for the idea is that the fact that Hazou is under constant jounin guard means that either Jiraiya will find out in time to stop it, or Hazou slipping the tail will trigger an emergency response to find him, at which point Jiraiya will find out in time to stop it. Jiraiya will then be forced to protect the future credibility of his threats by yanking Hazou's fingernails out and throwing him in the midden.
Let's not give foreign powers massive blackmail material during a historic tipping point at an international summit?
This as well. Like, if the team wanted to make a thunder run through a hostile foreign city and happen to pick some goodies out of the rubble along the way, that'd be one thing, but they're less sneaky than they are "ninja can't catch you if you are constantly surrounded by a three-block radius of 200dB poison glass vapor and building-sized armored monstrosities."
Actually, I would quite enjoy saying, "Kagome, at this time tomorrow we need every ninja within an hour's travel of that city to be as distracted as possible. Deniability and collateral damage are not a concern." He'd probably have to invent a whole new happy dance.
- Location
- Potato land
[X] Action Plan: The Best Timeline Beckons
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- Hazou's thoughts on Keiko
- Even if Ami's intentions are good, Keiko deserves better than being manipulated like this.
- However, agency and respect are two-way streets. Keiko needs to express her wants and needs better.
- Suddenly shifting between extremes of "I have no value except as a tool" and "I will hurt you for intruding on things I value" is not healthy.
- It's definitely not a good way to interact with people.
- It's fine to disagree and argue with people without reaching either extreme.
- Hazou is partially at fault for being afraid of offending Keiko. Having a big fight before meeting Ami would've been better than this.
- And Keiko does have value! She just won the tournament! The whole family loves her! It's almost insulting that she insists on her own worthlessness in spite of this.
- Getting Keiko to come back
- She's not angry at Noburi. Let him take point on this.
- If he thinks he'll have better luck on his own, leave him to it.
- Definitely do not do anything suggesting you'd physically stop her from going back to the Seventh Path.
- Don't lean too heavily on Jiraiya's authority. It runs the risk of putting her into her "I am a tool that must obey" mindset.
- Planning for the next meeting with Ami
- Insist on including Keiko, if she's present. Noburi is a given.
- Hazou is fed up with Ami's games, and intends to push for some straight answers.
- The goal is to find out if Ami is capable of respecting Hazou as a partner (in general, not just in the context of a possible marriage)
- Either she acquiesces and drops the games, or she doesn't, and that will be a negative answer in itself.
- She can lie, but it would have to be a lie that holds up long-term.
- Hazou is concerned that she may be in serious trouble, some of her actions seem quite desperate. In that case, he's willing to go to significant lengths to help Ami, for Keiko's sake.
- Nonetheless, he has two necessary conditions for this help:
- Some honesty from Ami
- A declaration of intent in regards to Keiko. Hazou won't work with her if she intends to continue to pull hurtful bullshit like the marriage proposal without any regard for Keiko's feelings.
- Get Keiko's permission to discuss her with Ami. Be clear that you won't if she doesn't give it.
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