To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

[Simon_Jester]

My bet is on a series of increasingly brutal wars in which democracy simply never arose or was effectively discredited in the eyes of the governing elites. Say, a timeline where the US fragments into a loose confederation of states that falls apart and squabbles, parliamentary Britain gets hammered into near-irrelevance in a massive war between the Nazis and the Soviets, who then have to deal with a frantically modernizing Japan and/or China and/or who knows what. World War Three certainly happens but culminates in some specific person (possibly an Augment, possibly not) taking over the planet. The Augment process is gradually lost, probably because the Augment warlord ruling the world wants to hoard the technology for themselves.

I'd really like to have an excelsior in each sector and border zone, but between our periodic wars and our expanding frontiers I just don't think its doable.

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If it weren't for the Explorer Corps we'd have just about done it. Once we start hoarding Explorer Corps personnel to crew Ambassador and Enterprise, I think we may just be able to make enough regular fleet Excelsiors to accomplish the goal- and of course it will become easy once we start retiring Excelsiors from the Explorer Corps itself.

 

[SynchronizedWritersBlock]

I don't think our new ambition should be anything where the timeframe is relatively fixed. Start the Ambassador Prototype was a clear goal with no known timing. Something like Put the Ambassador Into Service is a sham; we know exactly when it's going to happen. Same for the Kepler really, we can pin down when it will happen within 2 years.

We need an ambition that is uncertain in order for it to actually guide us properly.

 

[ilbgar123]

Such as the Stat goals?

 

[Briefvoice]

Okay, so if people really want to do a Gabriel draw-down here us a plan for it that takes us to roughly 2/3 of the planned highwater mark starting at the end of this year. Let me know what you think about this:

2317 GABRIEL DRAWDOWN Fleet Distribution

Fleet Strength Changes
2316.Q4 – (PROPOSED) Draw down Gabriel Expanse by 1 Constitution-B and 4 frigates to reinforce border zones.
2317.Q1 – Tarrak [Excelsior-A in Ana Font Berth A] completes (Explorer Corps)
2317.Q1 – Pleezirra [Excelsior-A in SF Berth A] completes
2317.Q1 – Excelsior [Excelsior] goes into refit for Excelsior-A pattern
2317.Q1 – Kumari [Excelsior] goes into refit for Excelsior-A pattern
2317.Q1 – Lion completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Svai completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Dryad [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q1 – Calypso [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q2 – Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes
2317.Q3 – Challorn completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Sappho completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Kearsage [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q3 – Docana [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q4 – Miranda-A [SF Berth 1] completes

2316.Q3 = "Current".

Sol Sector – Requires D18

• 2316.Q3 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Lightning], 2 Starbase I (10) [Earth, Betazed] = 19D
• 2317.Q4- 1 Excelsior (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Lightning], 1 Miranda-A (2) [SF Berth 1], 2 Starbase I (10) [Earth, Betazed] = 21D
• Notes: Miranda-A completed from SF Berth 1 posted here in 2317.Q4.

Vulcan Sector – Requires D12

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 2 Miranda (4) [Dryad, Calypso], Starbase I (5) = 12D
• 2317.Q1 - 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Lion, Svai], Starbase I (5) = 12D
• 2317.Q3 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Challorn], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Zephyr], Starbase I (5) = 12D
• Notes: In 2317.Q1 Dryad and Calypso go into refit. In 2317.Q3 Challorn arrives from refit and Docana goes into refit. Zephyr arrives from Amarkia, and Lion goes to Amarkia and Svai goes to the Sydraxian Border Zone.

Andor Sector – Requires D9

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Constitution-B [Huascar], Starbase I (5) = 10D
• 2317.Q3 – No change.
• Notes: No change.

Tellar Sector – Requires D9

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Constellation (3) [Vigour], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 13D.
• 2317.Q3 – No change.
• Notes: No change.

Amarkia Sector – Requires D9

• 2316.Q3 - 1 Constellation (3) [Kearsage], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Zephyr] Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 16D
• 2317.Q3 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Sappho], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Lion], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 16D
• Notes: In 2317.Q3 Sappho arrives from refit, Kearsage goes into refit, Lion arrives from Vulcan Sector and Zephyr goes to Vulcan sector.

Ferasa Sector – Requires D12

• 2316.Q3- 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Endurance], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Bull], Starbase I (5) = 14D
• 2316.Q4 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Endurance], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Bull], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Eclipse, Firefly], Starbase I (5) = 18D
• 2317.Q1- No change.
• Notes: Eclipse and Firefly brought in from GBZ in 2316.Q4.

Rigel Sector – Requires D9

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Avandar], 1 Constellation (3) [Selaya] Starbase I (5) = 14D
• 2317.Q2 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Avandar], 1 Renaissance (5) [Ana Font Berth 1], 1 Constellation (3) [Selaya] Starbase I (5) = 19D
• Notes: In 2317.Q2 new Ana Font Berth 1 Renaissance posted here.

Apinae Sector – Requires D12

• 2316.Q3 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Yukikaze], Starbase I (5) [Grand Hive of Apinae], Extra Outposts [5] = 18D
• 2317.Q1- No change.
• Notes: No change.

Romulan Border Zone – Requires D12

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Excelsior], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
• 2317.Q1 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Pleezirra], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
• Notes: In 2317.Q1, new Excelsior build in SF Berth A comes in and Excelsior goes into refit.
  

Klingon Border Zone – Requires D6

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking] = D10
• 2317.Q2- 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (5) = 15D
• Notes: Starbase complete in 2317.Q2.

Cardassian Border Zone – Requires D10

• 2316.Q3 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 12D
• 2316.Q4 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Constitution-B (5), [Republic], 1 Centaur-A (3) (Winterwind), 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 20D
• 2317.Q3 – No change.
• Notes: In 2316.Q4 the Winterwind and the Republic sent here from GBZ.
  

Sydraxian Border Zone – Requires D9

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Gale], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 13D
• 2316.Q4 - 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Gale], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Eketha], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 15D
• 2317.Q3- 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Eketha, Svai], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Gale], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 17D
• Notes: In 2316.Q4 Eketha comes in from GBZ. In 2317.Q3 Svai comes in from Vulcan sector.
  

Gabriel Border Zone – Requirement Left to Starfleet judgment

• 2316.Q3 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 1 Excelsior (6) [Kumari], 5 Constitution-B (25) [Korolev, Defiant, Exeter, Saratoga, Republic], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, UP Berth 1, UP Berth 2, UP Berth 3], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Winterwind], 9 Miranda-A (18) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly] = 95 C.
• 2316.Q4 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 1 Excelsior (6) [Kumari], 4 Constitution-B (20) [Korolev, Defiant, Exeter, Saratoga], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, UP Berth 1, UP Berth 2, UP Berth 3], 6 Miranda-A (12) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid] = 72 C.
• 2317.Q1 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 4 Constitution-B (20) [Korolev, Defiant, Exeter, Saratoga], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, UP Berth 1, UP Berth 2, UP Berth 3], 6 Miranda-A (12) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid] = 65 C.
• Notes: In 2316.Q3, take the Republic, the Winterwind, and the Eketha, Eclipse, and Firefly and send them to other sectors. In 2317.Q1 Kumari goes into refit.
  

Licori Border Zone – Requires D20

• 2316.Q3 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Rru'adorr], 2 Constitution-B (10) [Lexington, Hood], 1 Constellation (3) [Stalwart], 1 Oberth (1) [Torbriel] = 20D
• 2317.Q1- No change.

• Notes:
  

 

[SynchronizedWritersBlock]

I'm not really seeing the benefit to holding so many cruisers while we deploy Mirandas to cover events. That's not something they're even remotely good at. Can we not draw out two cruisers in exchange for keeping 3 Mirandas? Or better yet, keep the Mirandas, deploy another 2 Mirandas, draw out three extra cruisers for a total of 4 cruisers to distribute. The combat values would be the same.

The 8 cruiser 6 frigate force seems far more skewed towards cruisers than even I would like.

 

[Iron Wolf]

I don't think it's wise to start discussing drawing down the GBZ until we have more of an idea what T'Lorel wants to do and what our strategic options are.

 

[pheonix89]

That plan's TERRIBLE!

Mirandas are not viable event responders these days.

Leave all of them there, pull Connie-Bs or Rennies instead.

Edit: And the numbers don't even add up. A Connie-B, a Centaur-A and 3 Miranda-A's is 18 combat, not 25.

 

[SynchronizedWritersBlock]

Something we should seriously consider are LBZ outposts to reduce our D commitment there by 5. I hope to see them in Snakepit. That will free up at least one ship. We'll still have a lot of responders even if D5 is covered by outposts.

 

[chriswriter90]

Okay, so if people really want to do a Gabriel draw-down here us a plan for it that takes us to roughly 2/3 of the planned highwater mark starting at the end of this year. Let me know what you think about this:

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People were serious about that?

If the Cats are bringing in a Fathership and four Swarmers, I suppose we can pull the equivalent D out of Gabriel...

 

[Briefvoice]

I'm not really seeing the benefit to holding so many cruisers while we deploy Mirandas to cover events. That's not something they're even remotely good at. Can we not draw out two cruisers in exchange for keeping 3 Mirandas? Or better yet, keep the Mirandas, deploy another 2 Mirandas, draw out three extra cruisers for a total of 4 cruisers to distribute. The combat values would be the same.

The 8 cruiser 6 frigate force seems far more skewed towards cruisers than even I would like.

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The combat values would be the same, but cruisers can be in fewer places at the same time. There are two goals here:

1. Significantly reinforce the Cardassian Border Zone and Ferasa Sector.
2. Get a greater number of ships in our most critical zones so that even if two ships respond to an Event, there's still a ship available to respond to a second Event.

Sending out cruisers can accomplish the first, but does a much poorer job of the second.

That plan's TERRIBLE!

Mirandas are not viable event responders these days.

Leave all of them there, pull Connie-Bs or Rennies instead.

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I'm not sure where this weird myth that Miranda-As are bad event responders comes from. We've had all kind of successful events attended to by Mirandas.

What I don't want to do is pull our our strongest combatants, the Renaissances.

 

[ClawClawBite]

Possibly for an ambition, set a minimum S, P, or both per sector.

 

[lbmaian]

@OneirosTheWriter, some corrections:

2316.Q1 Shipyard Ops Results:

Yrillians 320/100 + 10 = 330/100

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Should be:
Yrillians 345/100 + 10 = 355/100

Spoiler: Sources

2315.Q4 Well, They Try:

Continued Diplomatic Push

Yrillians 308/100 + 12 = 320/300

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2315.Q4.M2 Captain's Log:

Captain's Log, USS Cheron, Stardate 25821.7

Passing cargo ships are reported a standoff between two Yrillian carryall not far from the border by Vega, and we responded. After discovering that there was an inter-clan dispute that was devolving quickly, we offered to mediate for them, and were able to successfully bring about an amicable resolution.

[Gain +10pp, +25 with Yrillians]

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Orions 493/500

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Should actually be:
Orions 471/500

Spoiler: Sources

The value 493 was originally arrived at in the 2315.Q2 snakepit:

Orions 457/500 + 14 + 22 = 493/500

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But then you corrected it in the 2315.Q2 snakepit results update, because the roll was supposed to be assigned to a random non-affiliate (which Ked Paddah were at the time):

[NB: The extra +22 assigned to the Orions during the previous turn was by mistake - it has now been attached to the Ked Paddah - 82/100]

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so I moved that +22 over to the Ked Paddah, resulting in 82 relations at the time, and correct the Orions relations to 457+12=471.

If Orions are going to be left at 493, does this mean that got that +22 to BOTH Ked Paddah AND Orions back then?

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Colonies Supplying Starfleet



Mining Colony, Josephine III [20 (25) BR/yr, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr) ] 2304.Q2
Mining Colony, Pygmalion 337 IV-3 [20 (25) br / year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr) ] 2307.Q2
Mining Colony, Beta Corridan [10 (15) br / year, 10 (20) sr / year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2308.Q2
Mining Colony, Galus V system [15 (20) br / year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2309.Q2
Mining Colony, Gamma Canidae V, [15 (20) br / year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2311.Q2
Mining Colony, Lapycorias VII, [20 (25) br/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2311.Q2
Mining Colony, Lapycorias XIII, [25 (30) br/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2312.Q2
Mining Colony, Collie, [10 (15) br/yr, 15 (25) sr/yr, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2314.Q1
Mining Colony, Ulen Gao VII, [20 (25) br/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2315.Q2

Mining Colony, Hophos III-2 [20 (30) SR/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2303.Q2
Mining Colony, Biroth System [15 (25) SR/yr, 5 (7) RP/yr, (1 pp/yr)] 2304.Q4
Mining Colony, 21 Themis VII system [15 (25) sr / year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q2
Mining Colony, Tagh Pakot, [15 (25) sr/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2312.Q2
Mining Colony, Corvo, [15 (25) sr/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2313.Q2
Mining Colony, Peco Sigma, [10 (20) sr/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2315.Q2
Mining Colony Castor IV-2, [20 (30) sr/year, (2 rp / yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2315.Q2

Research Colony, Aelin System, [ 5 (7) rp / year, (1 pp/yr)], 2306.Q2
Research Colony, Athos V with Romulans [ 5 (7) rp / year, (1 pp/yr)] 2307.Q2
Research Colony, Meridia VI system [5 (7) rp/ year, (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q2
Research Colony, 17 Jamboree IX system (Yel'urulasu), [5 (7) rp/ year, (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q4
Research Colony, Aga Carmide, [ 5 (7)rp/year) , (1 pp/yr)], 2313.Q2

Total income: 110 (130) br. 60 (80) sr. 35 (45) rp.

Total income: 155 (200) br. 135 (225) sr. 30 (72) rp. 0 (21) pp

Under construction
Research Colony, Cronulla VI, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)] ETA 2316.Q2

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Several errors here, as I pointed out in this post:
- Lapycorias XIII is 20 (25) br/yr, not 25 (30) br/yr
- Tagh Pakot is 10 (20) sr/yr, not 15 (25) sr/yr
- Corvo is 10 (20) sr/yr, not 15 (25) sr/yr
- Aga Carmide research colony/station is dead
- 41 Miele IV, 25 (30) br/yr, is under construction and will be finished by 2316 EOY

Spoiler: Sources

Overall, the main reason behind the discrepancies is that until somewhat recently, the base and tech-based bonus income often weren't listed apart, and thus the total was hard to determine.

Lapycorias XIII
Captain's Log event:

[Gain new mining colony option, Lapycorias XII, +20br/yr]

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Snakepit option (yes, the named changed from XII to XIII *shrugs*):

NEW Request Mining Colony at Lapycorias XIII, 8pp (4 turns, gain +25 br/year)

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Tagh Pakot
Captain's Log event (unnamed at this point, but found by Enterprise):

[+20sr, +10sr/yr colony option in (-2b)]

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2310 EOY names the colony:

Gain Tagh Pakot Mining Colony option, +10 (15) sr/yr

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Snakepit option:

NEW Request Mining Colony at Tagh Pakot, 8pp (4 turns, gain +15 sr / year)

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Corvo
Captain's Log event:

[Gain Mining Colony Option, Corvo System, +5 (10) sr/yr]

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Snakepit option (yes, apparently Corvo system was revised to have base 10sr, which makes sense since we've never had a base 5sr colony before):

NEW Request Mining Colony at Corvo, 8pp (4 turns, gain +10 (15) sr/year)

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Aga Carmide
Not explicitly stated to be lost, but it is strongly implied in the narrative, since if the starship Enterprise-B couldn't return, how the heck could a whole station (plus the convenient concurrence that Aga Carmide was effectively working at half rp output for 20 years to get us that 75rp total):

"So what happened to the research colony?" asks Nash on a subspace comm to the still barely-functional Enterprise-B.

"They were still caught in some manner of closed loop temporal pocket, having been caught right on the fringes of the anomaly," explains the science officer. "I was able to figure out what happened, because it nearly happened to us when we went through. I had had to make some very rapid changes to the deflector dish to get us through without a disaster at the time. A lot of things that we didn't have a chance to look into at first. But with all the very slow going repairs we had some time."

"It's back now?"

"Yes, Captain, but, uh..."

"Don't leave me in suspense now."

The science officer grimaces. "They'd spent a solid twenty years stuck in their temporal pocket. On the other hand, they've made some astounding advances in temporal research? And some other stuff they tell me aren't save to tell me about."

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It is with considerable resignation and defeatism that Mentat Betarre shares the trick to matching temporal wavelength signatures with the anomaly, and the NX-01 returns through it to its original timeline. Not long after that, the Ranger-class Enterprise reactivates the anomaly and it too passes ten million years into the future as if through a wormhole. But as the wormhole closes behind the NCC-1701, it collapses to a very low energy state, threatening to strand the rest of the Starfleet crew. It takes the accumulated temporal research of the Aga Carmide staff to devise a way to use the massive antimatter storage of the USS Enterprise-B to open the way home again in a titanic blast of energy. But with the use of that energy, there is no way to form the subspace field that will propel the Enterprise-B back to safety. Samhaya Mrr'shan's final act as Captain of that proud ship is to declare an anti-matter based self-destruct, to sacrifice the Enterprise to eradicate all trace of human involvement in the system ten million years in the past, and to allow the USS Lion to return home triumphantly, with Maria Volkov, Samhaya Mrr'shan, Nash ka'Sharren, and Mentat Betarre on the bridge.

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Furthermore, 2315 EOY and Nix's map assumes that the Aga Carmide research colony is gone.

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41 Miele IV
2315.Q4 GBZ:

Starfleet Colony Team - Building mining colony on 41 Miele IV - ETC 2316.Q4

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USS Somak, NCC-635, Prospector (40 Miele / 41 Miele / 38 Miele ) - 41 Miele II, Class L habitable planet, 41 Miele IV Class C frozen rock with 25br/yr mine potential

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Fixes collated:

Article:

Mining Colony, Josephine III, [20 (25) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2304.Q2
Mining Colony, Pygmalion 337 IV-3, [20 (25) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2307.Q2
Mining Colony, Beta Corridan, [10 (15) br/yr, 10 (20) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2308.Q2
Mining Colony, Galus V, [15 (20) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q2
Mining Colony, Gamma Canidae V, [15 (20) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2311.Q2
Mining Colony, Lapycorias VII, [20 (25) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)] 2311.Q2
Mining Colony, Lapycorias XIII, [20 (25) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2312.Q2
Mining Colony, Collie, [10 (15) br/yr, 15 (25) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2314.Q1
Mining Colony, Ulen Gao VII, [20 (25) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2315.Q2

Mining Colony, Hophos III-2, [20 (30) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2303.Q2
Mining Colony, Biroth, [15 (25) sr/yr, 5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2304.Q4
Mining Colony, 21 Themis VII, [15 (25) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q2
Mining Colony, Tagh Pakot, [10 (20) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2312.Q2
Mining Colony, Corvo, [10 (20) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2313.Q2
Mining Colony, Peco Sigma, [10 (20) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2315.Q2
Mining Colony, Castor IV-2, [20 (30) sr/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1 pp/yr)], 2315.Q2

Research Colony, Aelin, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2306.Q2
Research Colony, Athos V with Romulans, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2307.Q2
Research Colony, Meridia VI, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q2
Research Colony, 17 Jamboree IX (Yel'urulasu), [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2309.Q4
Research Colony, Ke'Luur, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)), 2312.Q4

Total income: 150 (195) br, 125 (215) sr, 30 (72) rp, 0 (21) pp

Under construction
Research Colony, Cronulla VI, [5 (7) rp/yr, (1 pp/yr)], 2316.Q2
Mining Colony, 41 Miele IV, [25 (30) br/yr, (2 rp/yr), (1pp/yr)], 2316.Q4

The above numbers match the annual income in the 2315 EOY (if you account for all the other sources in annual income, see my spreadsheet for details).

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Sol
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- Provides: 105br 50sr, 5rp, 10pp

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As discussed in PM, the 105br needs to be fixed down to 95br to match the 2310 budget increase of 45br 30sr. Long story short, the redistribution of all the budget increases into member world contributions (specifically, the contributions of the original 4 members) back in 2310 resulted in an effective budget increase of 55br 30sr. All the annual incomes from 2310 onward, including 2315, have always used the 45br 30sr figure.

 

[Nix]

Something we should seriously consider are LBZ outposts to reduce our D commitment there by 5. I hope to see them in Snakepit. That will free up at least one ship. We'll still have a lot of responders even if D5 is covered by outposts.

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I'd expect the requirements to drop down on their own before the outposts are finished. Do we even know they are still that high? The front page always listed it as D9 so it's no help there.

 

[pheonix89]

The combat values would be the same, but cruisers can be in fewer places at the same time. There are two goals here:

1. Significantly reinforce the Cardassian Border Zone and Ferasa Sector.
2. Get a greater number of ships in our most critical zones so that even if two ships respond to an Event, there's still a ship available to respond to a second Event.

Sending out cruisers can accomplish the first, but does a much poorer job of the second.


I'm not sure where this weird myth that Miranda-As are bad event responders comes from. We've had all kind of successful events attended to by Mirandas.

What I don't want to do is pull our our strongest combatants, the Renaissances.

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You want to know where it comes from? The front page! Miranda-A's are S2 P1 D2!

Only Soyuzs and stock Mirandas are worse responders. Which we don't have anymore. If a Miranda-A passes an event, so would anything else we have.

 

[Nervos Belli]

We could do a diplomatic goal, like seeing relations normalize with the Sydraxians and Dawiar in the next ten years. That's something that we'd want but can't be certain of, and could provide some interesting event fodder.

 

[Briefvoice]

You want to know where it comes from? The front page! Miranda-A's are S2 P1 D2!

Only Soyuzs and stock Mirandas are worse responders. Which we don't have anymore. If a Miranda-A passes an event, so would anything else we have.

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Ok, here's what you're missing. It's fine if they fail as long as they were able to try.

I mean, the thing that has people freaked out isn't that we're failing too many events or even that ships are unable to respond in time. What is getting us dinged pp is when we have an Event and no ship can even try to respond because they're all busy. Having an extra Miranda that tries and fails its roll at leaves saves us the pp penalty from "no ship was availabel to try".

 

[Nix]

We could do a diplomatic goal, like seeing relations normalize with the Sydraxians and Dawiar in the next ten years. That's something that we'd want but can't be certain of, and could provide some interesting event fodder.

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That's not something in our area of responsibility. It would make sense for FDS to set a goal like that, but for us it would be presumptuous.

 

[Thors_Alumni]

I like Briefvoices plan so when the time comes I will vote for it unless someone comes up with a better one.

 

[Nervos Belli]

That's not something in our area of responsibility. It would make sense for FDS to set a goal like that, but for us it would be presumptuous.

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One of our options for Starfleet Ambition at the beginning of the quest was to see two more species join the Federation. It's similar enough to me.

 

[AlphaDelta]

One of our options for Starfleet Ambition at the beginning of the quest was to see two more species join the Federation. It's similar enough to me.

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What about improve infrastructure, or a ship goal?

 

[Void Stalker]

@Briefvoice
The two excelsiors finishing next year are the base model not the A refit. We have two refits finishing in 2318, as such I would recommend that the non-EC ship go in for refit (and maybe the EC ship as well) instead of the Excelsior.

 

[pheonix89]

Ok, here's what you're missing. It's fine if they fail as long as they were able to try.

I mean, the thing that has people freaked out isn't that we're failing too many events or even that ships are unable to respond in time. What is getting us dinged pp is when we have an Event and no ship can even try to respond because they're all busy. Having an extra Miranda that tries and fails its roll at leaves saves us the pp penalty from "no ship was availabel to try".

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You asked why people thought a ship performed one way, I answered.

That's not missing the point, that's reminding you that the "myth" you were talking about is hard canon.

And I'm not sure your plan even properly does what you want. Andor and Tellar are still single-ship.

Did we ever find out how event rate is decided? I seem to recall something where more homeworlds meant more events, but I'm not sure. I'm still fairly sure that single-ship is illadvised.

 

[Thors_Alumni]

How many races are close to joining the Federation this year or the next? Or whenever we get around to letting them join us?

 

[Nervos Belli]

What about improve infrastructure, or a ship goal?

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It's a possibility, but infrastructure is just spending pp and we just did a ship goal. I thought it might be nice to have a Starfleet Ambition that could be worked into the Captain's logs every once in a while.

 

[Thors_Alumni]

It's a possibility, but infrastructure is just spending pp and we just did a ship goal. I thought it might be nice to have a Starfleet Ambition that could be worked into the Captain's logs every once in a while.

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Like what?