Oh, Farr's probably an unhappy camper. Though he will have the distinction of working with all three major factions over the course of the war.
May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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- star wars canon what canon tsundere dice ck2 quest actions have consequences all the credits all work and no play makes ciaran a dull girl best sister capitalism ho! despairing qm teetotaller society member gotta catch 'em all insanity looting off the rails sage dice approaching spicy sheev tsundere asajj
...Well, I know what I'm going to be doing for the next hour or two. I also don't want to forget that we added Qiilura + Ord Mantell (from the 'Exploiting the Eclipse' action) and Onderon (from 'Onderon Flashpoint' action) in addition to the rest of these.
Map + Index are forthcoming...
...Well, I know what I'm going to be doing for the next hour or two. I also don't want to forget that we added Qiilura + Ord Mantell (from the 'Exploiting the Eclipse' action) and Onderon (from 'Onderon Flashpoint' action) in addition to the rest of these.
Map + Index are forthcoming...
thank you for your work
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- He/Him
Dantooine, huh? Free source of Force studying.
Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
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- He/Him
I'm just impressed neither time has been you, considering the ridiculously in depth research you do.
On an unrelated note, I was looking at Arkania after @Andres110 mentioned that they have dragons, and I really want it for completely different reasons (though still dragon, because they're fucking dragons). Firstly, the planet is rich with diamonds. Not as directly applicable as anomalous materials, but still useful just from a monetary perspective. Secondly, the planet is known for their reclusive scientists. Scientists occasionally get in trouble for not being concerned with the ethics of making bioweapons, or altering the genetics of neighboring species. Seriously, these guys would be stupidly useful to any genetic modifications we want to research. Thirdly, a Jedi built his house/training retreat there way back when. Lastly, dragons.
Also, I hear there's a rebel base there.
Before we get to the map... I have a megapost. (EDIT: I was about halfway done with it, and just decided to finish up while I could). This one is the "bunch of random items since the last full turn update that I really want to make sure we remember" type of megapost.
Also:
I really like the idea of building a fleet of hospital ships. Perhaps we could contract with Raith Sienar and turn those into a separate custom vessel design. Or, we could pay for a shipyard/orbital drydock over the Kiln or over Taris where we could construct those hospital ships on our own.
@Dr. Snark, could this be a base purchase? Alternately, given its nature as a museum, could it be a Hero Action for Thrawn that would enable the base purchase?
Technically this one is suggested write-in, but still. The Invisible Hand is attached to the Oracle, so this would probably be classified as an Oracle base upgrade, to retrofit the Invisible Hand for maximum effectiveness. Considering it is a dreadnaught-class capital ship... that could be a major boost to our Martial efforts (such as striking the Zygerrian slavers, or attacking various pirate fleets, etc.)
I don't think anyone answered this -- the Rush Clovis investigation results showed that he was funneling a lot of money to some unknown cause -- does anyone know that would be?
These are really good suggestions, and I don't think anyone responded to them:
This is definitely a given. I'm not sure whether I hope this will be a Learning action (have Cheriss work on him for a bit) or a Hero Action (HK-47 seeks out upgrades proactively & on his own time), since we have plenty of actions to occupy us in both categories. My only qualm is that, it might be better to wait until we've studied beskar or phrik and can outfit HK-47 with the best materials possible...
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It might be better to wait on upgrading HK-47 until Ciaran and/or Cheriss have learned mechu-daru and gained the intuitive Force-based understanding of engineering that Revan used to build HK-47 in the first place.
This might be a supplemental reward for the retrofit, since taking HK-47 apart and putting him back together would naturally give us some insight into his construction. OTOH, studying his assassination protocols (and self-improvement routines) could be a separate task -- perhaps that would be a Hero Action for PR-1, since our protocol droid does love self improvement....
Again, this might be an inadvertent benefit if we ever send HK-47 up against a Force user or Force sect. Our other agents would witness his techniques and learn what to do & not to do. Alternately, we could just make it a Hero Action and have him write a training manual (or have him reconstruct some of his past battles & encounters to add to our Kalee Battleroom with the rest of the body-camera footage.
Again, probably a supplemental benefit if/when we recover the Foundry, as well as Revan's estate on Nar Shaddaa. Speaking of...
...Pretty sure there's actually a fragment of the Infinite Engine in Revan's Nar Shaddaa estate. That could prove useful...
If we don't recover Revan's holocron from Lehon/Rakata Prime (I'm not sure if Darth Bane destroyed the original), then this would definitely be an alternate. OTOH, I'm pretty sure Darth Sidious (Palpatine) also has himself copied into this holocron, so there might be some danger....
@Dr. Snark, I don't think you ever responded to this one? Would 'personal upgrade' actions be reclassified as Hero Actions? Alternately, if/when we recover the Arkanian Legacy and retrofit it as our Karada flagship, would you be willing to treat some of these upgrades/medical checks as though they were base upgrades instead? You've indicated that our Heroes are able to get genemodded without taking time away from their other responsibilities, while the actual treatment is run by our Arkanian employees. Our biggest involving is covering the expense of it, so a 'base upgrade' or free hero action would make sense.
I really like the idea of building a fleet of hospital ships. Perhaps we could contract with Raith Sienar and turn those into a separate custom vessel design. Or, we could pay for a shipyard/orbital drydock over the Kiln or over Taris where we could construct those hospital ships on our own.
...I'd really like to find some way to collaborate with other medcenters and medical research organizations. Perhaps that will just have to wait until we get the Arkanian Legacy, though.
...I'm still curious if Dr. Snark plans to bring Maul back into the mix, though I suspect he's keeping things close to the vest for the moment.
This is another biggee --our Dantooine resort was originally a mansion belonging to our grandfather Silas, that we remodeled into a resort property. Even so, we own & operate it, and it was originally conceived of as a base. @Dr. Snark, what say you?
This is one of a number of base upgrades I have ready to propose if we go for it.
This is more of a write-in suggestion for our Naboo base, but I did want to point out that we have access to Gungan tech if we wanted to reverse-engineer some, or produce it for sale to the Gungans (or for sale to the rest of the galaxy...)
I really don't want to forget about our plans for a Taris sports complex + sports development program + sponsor/invest in sports teams...So, who wants to invent the galactic sport of curling?
EDIT: of course, having written that, I'm now imagining a sport involving asteroids and tractor beams. Which sounds awesome.
Nor do I want to forget our plans for 'Space City' -- which is basically a less-urgent kind of 'super-loot' similar to the Chu'unthor, Arkanian Legacy and Foundry. This also becomes a lot more plausible now that we have contact with Kuat, and have options for working with Hoersch-Kessel that also specialize in capital ships.
@Dr. Snark, could this be a base purchase? Alternately, given its nature as a museum, could it be a Hero Action for Thrawn that would enable the base purchase?
...And that's a fourth megapost I ought to work on. @Stealthy, if you want to keep reminding me until I actually make an omake out of it, feel free.
Given that Stenness just joined the CNS, it's a fair bet that Borvo did bring it up to Jabba and was given control over the region. Awesome!
@Dr. Snark, it's not really a write-in, but will we be interacting with Quinlan Vos at some point in the future? If Sev'rance Tann is getting sidelined, he might be the next minor antagonist...
Also, @Dr. Snark, since we're sending a security team with the scientists, are you going to handwave the 'Corellian scientist kidnapped and forced to produce biowapon' plotline? I'm fine if you did -- I just want to make sure it's taken care of.
Also a Hero Action write-in, this one for Grievous. The Ailon Nova Guard are a pretty major player in the mercenary world -- in terms of numbers, we're definitely small potatoes, so I'd like to get on their good side.
I don't think @Dr. Snark ever responded to this either. Could we send Asajj as our envoy to some of the more obscure/isolated Force sects? (Specifically, the ones that wouldn't identify her as Asajj Ventress or as a former Sith). She's quite a bit better about Diplomacy, she's exceptionally good at Lore, and this would be a great way to give her some autonomy and let her 'broaden her horizons' with new Force techniques.
@Timewarriors: I'm not sure if anyone responded to you, but Hego Damask (and his company, Damask Holdings) was mentioned quite a bit during the early turns of the quest, and @Teron later confirmed (non-threadmarked post, sadly) that Damask intended to use Ciaran as a tool, before his death.
@Dr. Snark, I'm curious if you have any other thoughts regarding this idea for Taris base upgrades?
Also, I don't think we got an answer for this. @Dr. Snark: is a Corellia base available, or do we still need to reach out to them proactively?
I'm really curious to see how this would work. Would that be something like an Oracle base upgrade, to outfit our flagship with a 'scavenger' fleet (tractor beams, etc.) to send in the aftermath of major battles? Or would we need to design it as a Sienar Custom Vessel?
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He did. Or rather; he used it until it broke down on its own. Fortunately he had enough foresight to make a copy before that happened.
No, that was one of his clones and years after he died for the first time. We've got plenty of time to go get it for ourselves. And even then the Gatekeeper personality he left it with was pretty chill. He based it on himself when he was younger because he decided that wizened old men make for pretentious assholes when they're teaching and left it unlocked with only the proviso that you use what you learn from it only to benefit yourself.
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- Location
- Australia
@Dr. Snark, I have some suggestions for the Oracle and some questions.
Medical facilities to decrease chance of death for organics and increase chance of recovery.
An armoury with top-of-the-line wargear for our Guardians, giving us +5 to our Martial rolls.
A storeroom with top-of-the-line gadgets and equipment for our Seekers, giving us +5 to our Intrigue rolls.
Repair/maintenance facilities to decrease Oracle upkeep and provide chance of recovery for inorganic troops.
What does the Invisible Hand do? Does it give a Martial action like the support fleet/starfighter squadrons do, does it give a bonus to Martial/Diplomacy rolls, or something else?
What does Vectivus' phantom do? Our income hasn't increased, the rate of promotion of our Agents remains the same, we've had no new Lore or Personal options, and he hasn't given us an additional Lore action.
Is it possible for our Discovery Corps to go to Endor and steal the Shadowstone and Sunstar for ourselves?
Medical facilities to decrease chance of death for organics and increase chance of recovery.
Upgrade to Quad turbolasers and advanced weaponry.
An armoury with top-of-the-line wargear for our Guardians, giving us +5 to our Martial rolls.
A storeroom with top-of-the-line gadgets and equipment for our Seekers, giving us +5 to our Intrigue rolls.
Repair/maintenance facilities to decrease Oracle upkeep and provide chance of recovery for inorganic troops.
What does the Invisible Hand do? Does it give a Martial action like the support fleet/starfighter squadrons do, does it give a bonus to Martial/Diplomacy rolls, or something else?
What does Vectivus' phantom do? Our income hasn't increased, the rate of promotion of our Agents remains the same, we've had no new Lore or Personal options, and he hasn't given us an additional Lore action.
Is it possible for our Discovery Corps to go to Endor and steal the Shadowstone and Sunstar for ourselves?
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- Australia
You called it.
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- Australia
Knight.
Knight, but with a lot of non-Force skills that let them work as remarkably capable commandos & special-ops troops. I'd say they're the mirror image of Jedi Sentinels -- instead of Jedi trained to be commandos, they're commandos trained to use the Force. In a straight one-on-one fight, our guys would probably lose. Their trick (and the reason this one is now Tier 3) is that they don't fight one-on-one, and never take a straight fight.
We've managed to accidentally stumble across lesson one of HK-47's "How to kill Jedi" lecture series.
Statement: Stop trying to fight fair you idiotic meatbag! Your objective is to kill your target, not win an honor duel.
We're already going to get a +5 Martial with the 'battleroom' upgrade (on Kalee) -- that's the one that lets us apply the +5 'bodycameras' default bonus we were supposed to get from Turn 2.
I suspect Intrigue bonuses at this point will rely not on upgraded tech, but on expanded information network. Plus, we already have the +5 from the Jedi Sentinels that (we hope?) we'll recover in the near future.
Perhaps if we retrofit & upgrade it, we can use it to act independently -- perhaps at the head of an anti-piracy/anti-slavery strike force? Given just how much good that would do for us -- reputation, loot, CNS recruitment, loot, politics, loot -- that'd be a great way to give us "+1 Martial Action" without 'breaking the bank' as far as action overload. It'd probably require minimal extra effort-- each turn we'd specify a target, and Dr. Snark would treat it as just another auto-roll (as he does with salvage, for instance).
I'm pretty sure he was added as an 'advisor' because we thought it'd be funny. As far as expanding our Lore actions, if we recover the Chu'unthor next turn and turn it into a Force research center, that could easily be one of the rewards...
First, we'd have to learn about it in-character. Second, we'd have to care enough about it to spend an action on that, instead of one of the much more immediate priorities we're faced with. Third... meh? With the exception of Mungo Baobab, I've mostly managed to avoid content from the early Star Wars cartoons in my galaxy briefing, especially since I've noticed they tend to treat Star Wars as 'magical fantasy' rather than science fiction. 'Sunstar' seems like it's the same, so I'd be inclined to say it just doesn't exist in this setting.
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- somewhere over there.
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- They/It
The idea of a group of force adept commandos using HK-47 approved tactics is rather terrifying.
Yeah, there's a reason that Traya managed to be the only Sith Lord to ever successfully destroy the Jedi order until Palpatine showed up. HK-47 wasn't the only anti-force user assassin Revan had made, he just trained people for the rest of them instead of building droids. And Traya was more than happy to keep that tradition going when she took over.
Now, admittedly, a force user training a bunch of people on the best ways to assassinate a force user does have some rather obvious risks. Especially since they didn't fall into the usual trap of providing deliberately flawed training that couldn't be used against them. But they were both freakishly good at manipulating people into being loyal to them, or in Traya's case into hating her in such a way that your actions against her would only further her plans*, so it worked rather well for them.
For the record: I consider Atton Rand to be one of the more frightening people in Star Wars history.
* Seriously that woman's ability with shatterpoint was terrifying.
- Location
- Australia
I don't see why we would want to get anti-Force anything. The only Force user we want to kill is Sidious and anti-Force tactics for our minions will not do anything against him. Anti-Force/lightsaber training and equipment will not be useful unless we decided we're going to start killing Jedi.
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What we really need to do is to find a way to cut Palpatine off from using the Force.
For without easy access to the Force, what is Palpatine? Simply an old man who is completely out of his element. That is what we need to do if we want to have any hope of stopping him.
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- Australia
Pretty much us.
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- Tulsa Oklahoma
Don't we have some ability with the force making said comparison invalid?
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
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- She/Her
A chessmaster.
Zilla
It wasn't me, it was the one armed man!
- Location
- South Florida
A morally corrupt Supreme Chancellor, who could kill a bunch of Jedi with a single order.
Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
A genius, playboy, philanthropist? No wait, wrong series ...
Uh ...
A power-hungry, spiteful, megalomaniac? ... No wait, for a politician those are obvious.
Uh ...
Yeah, I got nothing.
Stealthy
Reverently Irreverent
- Location
- Roaming
Force or no, Palpatine is still a devil with a lightsaber. Blocking his access to the Force does make it easier for our non-Force assets (at the expense of our Force-wielders), but he'll still be damn hard to take out unless we load up on alllllll the gadgets and lay the trap to end all traps.