And here I thought this would be Abyss Watcher Thrawn's Theme.

Anyway, after a good solid sleep I have returned and find... Serious Ciaran has a strong lead with Goddess a second. So I guess I'll get to working on that crack omake where Ciaran was based on Serious Sam instead of Dark Souls. :V

As for the Name Vote:

[x] Silver Pilgrim's Path. For the humanitarian organization, and following the naming convention of Dark Soul's Way of White and Way of Blue, the Silver Pilgrim's Path is an organization primarily focused on helping those down and out find a solid, happy place in the universe. Yes, it's mostly refugee evacuation and reconstruction right now, but I imagine in peace time and worlds it would be more about alleviating poverty and hunger, helping the unemployed reach jobs even if they're off world and promoting the abolishment of Inner Rim slavery.

[x] Cinders. I don't have much problem with the Dark Souls naming and theme. So I approve of this for the Force aspect.
 
So which person -- or maybe group? -- would have "Smooth Criminal" as their theme song?

And is Delta Team's theme song the A-Team Theme song?
[x] Cinders. I don't have much problem with the Dark Souls naming and theme. So I approve of this for the Force aspect.
Are you talking about a name for the merc company, or the Force adepts? Because that's the name for the merc group.

Although that makes me think of "Embers" or "Sparks" (as in, sparks of light; glimmers of light in the darkess) as possible descriptors, appelations, or names. Still a Dark Souls reference. But a more positive connotation than cinders.
 
So. Rather than think of songs that Padme, Anakin, Obi-Wan, et. al would have as a soundtrack, I instead realized that Ciaran would have a soundtrack for them. Specifically, a playlist for when Padme and Anakin or Obi-Wan, Satine and/or Siri are in the same room (and possibly alone). We're looking at mostly mood setting here, with increasing amounts of suggestiveness.

It will be meticulously created, with input from Thrawn as to what their psycho-romantic pinpoints are, more effort from Ciaran than almost any other enterprise, and a droid created and programmed for the sole purpose of knowing the precise moment to drop in the sex playlist and lock the cortosis-lined doors for maximum awkwardness.
 
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The Song of My People​


"Thrawn, how goes the recovery of Chu'unthor?" asked Lady Ciaran, getting very close to the Chiss Admiral's face and grinning like a schoolgirl. "I want it."

"It's progressing at a nice pace." said Thrawn, unperturbed. "I've analyzed their art, and I believe I've found a way to win their cooperation. All that I require now is time to perfect the art myself."

"You're already an accomplished artist Thrawn. I have a painting of yours in my Vault." said Ciaran, both because she believed it true and because she wanted at Chu'unthor as soon as possible.

"Perhaps in some fields of art, but this is more akin to a ritual to them. Perfection of the craft will allow us to negotiate from a much better position." Said thrawn, before making the kind of face that was contemplating failure for the first time. "On the other hand, attempting such an act with anything less than perfection will earn us nothing but ire, and I suspect they may try to force us off the planet entirely."

"That would be less than ideal." said Ciaran. It was an understatement, but not by much. If the worst truly came to pass, they could go in full force and take the prized ship as Ciaran had suggested upon first discovering exactly what they had uncovered on Dathomir.

"Indeed, hence my need for practice. I've also discovered that it is in fact an art requiring more than one person, so I've appropriated several Abyss Watcher agents that are passably skilled in the required field already and drilling them to perfection." said Thrawn, gesturing to the gathered agents he had shanghaied into his project. Ciaran didn't mind at all though. Whatever it took to get that ship.

"Very well then. Just tell me when you do set out. And remember," Ciaran raised a finger expectantly. "the sooner, the better." With that, she left the room, leaving Thrawn and his men to their own devices.

Thrawn took a deep breath to prepare himself. "Alright gentlemen, once more, from the top. With feeling this time. One, two…"


XXX​


The Singing Mountain Clan watched the approach of the foreign party cautiously from the shadows as they made their way closer to the Singing Mountain. The Abyss Watchers were no doubt aware of their observers, simply electing not to acknowledge them so as to prevent confrontation. Eventually the Singing Mountain Clan decided that the off-worlders had gone far enough, and their progress was halted by a tall, regal woman getting on in years, flanked by several younger, more military women.

"What business have you with the Singing Mountain Tribe?" she demanded, looking down on the approaching party.

Choosing not to respond, their leader instead turned and nodded to his men. Each set down the cases they had been carrying and removed an instrument from each. While they were preparing the instruments, the leader began breathing exercises. The Clan members watched on in silence, ready for treachery of any kind.

No was forthcoming however. Nodding to his followers once more, the leader turned away from them. His small band struck up a merry tune, and a second later, the man himself broke into song.



As the song wore on, the watching members of the Singing Mountain Clan broke their stoic facades, and began clapping along as if the singer were one of their own. For while the song was similar to their own works, it was clearly original, and deserved the respect any composition of such quality demanded.

By the time the song wound down, everyone save the leader of the Singing Mountain Clan had been caught up in the music, though her closest body guards were more restrained in their involvement than the others. As the last notes faded, the leader of the Singing Mountain Clan stepped forward.

"An excellent composition. Who is the composer?" she asked, looking down her nose at the other party's leader. To his credit, he gave not a single inch either physically or mentally.

"Why thank you, I composed it myself." While his words were boastful, his tone had no such feeling. Instead it was if he were merely stating facts.

"What business do you have on Dathomir?" she asked, moving on to actual business. The sudden change in topic didn't even cause her counterpart to slow in the slightest.

"I am Mitth'raw'nuruodo, and I've come on behalf of Lady Ciaran to negotiate the recovery and repair of the crashed ship Chu'unthor." he said eloquently.

"I am Augwynne Djo, leader of the Singing Mountain Clan, and defender of such artifacts from those who would do harm with their power." she said, giving no impression that Thrawn's words had impressed her. A lesser man would have cowered in fear.

"Then you are in luck. Lady Ciaran is renowned as the foremost philanthropist and champion of humanitarian efforts in the entire galaxy. The Chu'unthor would be in not good hands, but the best hands, fulfilling its purpose of educating the future generations." Said Thrawn, painting an ideal picture of both his employer and her goals with the ship. It wasn't a bald faced lie, but it was a generous interpretation of the truth.

"Such a ship bears great potential for both good and evil. Even if this Ciaran would not use it for ill, what guarantee have we that she will not change when given power, or have the ship taken from her by force by those who will corrupt its purpose?" questioned Djo.

"Is not depriving the galaxy of its potential good evil? Even the evilest acts can be well intentioned. Our goal is just as pure as yours." A murmur ran through the gathered members of the Singing Mountain Clan, but Augwynne barely reacted at all.

"You goal carries the potential to feed evil. Never concede to evil. Ours eliminates the good, but also prevents the evil. And that is our oldest and most sacred law. When we concede to evil, even in a small way, we feed it, and it grows stronger." she said resolutely.

"I have studied your culture intensely, and am well aware of your guiding doctrine." said Thrawn. "I also acknowledge that our plan carries risk. But a war where one takes no risk is a war one will lose without a doubt."

"Are you suggesting our methods are futile?" she questioned.

"No. They simply fail to account for the galaxy at large. They are insular, limited." A shushed gasp ran through the crowd. "It is not enough to deny evil. To truly eradicate it, one must embrace the light."

"The teachings of old. You are well versed on our history." she said. Djo stared at Thrawn for longer than anyone could be comfortable. Thrawn hardly even blinked. "Very well. You have proven you would treat the ship with respect, and use it's potential for good. We will require that you be prepared to destroy it utterly should the risk of it falling into the hands of evil arise however."

"I would do so even if you did not request it, as a final, spiteful vengeance upon those who would dare pervert the noble purpose of Chu'unthor." said Thrawn solemnly.

"Follow me." said Djo, turning to leave, Thrawn and his men following close behind as she led them to the great crashed ship of Chu'unthor.

AN: I'm very tired.
 
I do have several proposals for music:





 
Idea: Ventress goes out and one-woman takes down a slave making operation on the planet that her Jedi Master died on. After taking down the slavers and pirates she takes in a Twi-Leki girl who she see's crying because of all of the violence around her. Thus causing Ventress to take her in like her Master did and teach her in the way of the force.

Ventress gets a side kick and we get Darth Talon (Sith Exiles apprentice).
 
Idea: Ventress goes out and one-woman takes down a slave making operation on the planet that her Jedi Master died on. After taking down the slavers and pirates she takes in a Twi-Leki girl who she see's crying because of all of the violence around her. Thus causing Ventress to take her in like her Master did and teach her in the way of the force.

Ventress gets a side kick and we get Darth Talon (Sith Exiles apprentice).

We should save that for a Anakin recruitment plan. I mean his childhood dream was to free the slaves of Tatooine. Now Rattaka might not be what he wanted, but it helps play into Ciaran's narrative that one doesn't need to be a part of the Order to be a Jedi.
 
@Dr. Snark: I'm thinking of possible rewards for the anti-Palpatine meeting, based on who we'll be meeting and where they come from:


Chi Eekway Papanoida represents Wroona, but she's also a Pantoran native, and we just ended the blockade. I'm incline to say that will make her rather fond of us (business opportunities for a major trade hub in the galactic south?). Plus -- her father is the head of the Pantoran Assembly (CNS recruitment?), a megacorporate media mogul (investment opportunity? Diplomacy options?), and reportedly operates one of the largest intelligence networks in the galaxy (Rumor Mill? Intrigue bonus?) Baron Papanoida could be a powerful ally in the fight against Palpatine...

Bail Organa represents Alderaan -- peaceful, lots of refugee settlements, headquarters of the 'Apprentice Legislature' program, and center of one of the largest medcenters in the galaxy. We should probably leave Alderaan outside the CNS (to keep Organa's political influence intact), though they might still offer informal support. The most useful thing they could contribute, would be a research partnership between Karada and the Aldera Universal Medcenter. Or let us use (recruit from?) their medical school. Or supply us with medical droids...

Giddeon Danu represents Kuat -- could our meeting put us in contact with Kuat Drive Yards, per the 'Contact Ship-Builders' Stewardship action? Or would he be willing to help us out with making contact, giving us a slight boost or better rewards when we eventually pick that option?

Garm Bel Iblis represents Corellia... yeah. CNS Recruitment potential up the wazoo (given their existing neutral stance), plus ties to Corellian Engineering and a whole bunch of major industries. Not to mention the Green Jedi. I'd be thrilled to unlock a potential base purchase for the planet next turn. Alternately, we could try to induce Corellian companies to invest in Taris, like we did with Sienar and Incom this turn...

Fang Zar represents Sern Prime. However, he could also theoretically put us in contact with the 'Republic Group' that's secretly operating around Coruscant. (Also, we may or may not be aware that Zar and the Republic Group are being actively investigated by Armand Isard, Palpatine's puppet in the Senate Bureau of Intelligence...)

Lexi Dio represents Uyter. It isn't as distinctive or useful, but it's already leaning towards a Neutral stance, and would be a major trade hub connecting Onderon and Kashyyyk with the rest of Neutral Space...

Mon Mothma represents Chandrila -- major trade world, peaceful, basically unexceptional. They technically have a military academy we might recruit from or cross-train with? Oh, and they're also the center of the 'Legislative Youth Program' -- similar to 'Apprentice Legislators' program, but with an ongoing 'mock legislature' simulation of the galactic senate. Again: recruiting the next generation might hold promise if we're looking long-term...

Tendau Bendon represents Ithor, which is already part of the CNS. We could drop hints that the Ithorian assistance in rebuilding a couple planets' ecosystems would be greatly appreciated...

Onaconda Farr represents Rodia -- he acts like a Loyalist, but we know he's actually a Rodian patriot at heart. We might able to appeal to Farr to join the CNS in order to keep his homeworld out of the war. Plus our humanitarian work should go a long way to persuading him we have his best interests at heart...

Nee Alavar represents Lorrd -- they're pretty close to Neutral Space, so there is recruitment potential. More than that, though, I'd be thrilled to persuade some of the population to immigrate to and/or invest in Neutral systems, especially Taris. Could we construct a 'Lorrdian Quarter' or district as a base upgrade? That would set up a chance for future recruitment -- a planet full of extraordinarily perceptive body-language readers would be a bonanza for future Diplomacy or Intrigue efforts....

Bana Breemu represents Humbarine, an industrial world in the Core. She's too cautious to be useful against Palpatine directly. But perhaps we could appeal to that very caution to make her look more favorably on CNS membership? We've been a pretty powerful voice for the people in the galaxy who just want to stay out of things...
 
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Gonna say a pass on recruiting any anti-Palpatine Senators into the CNS. Keep them all in the Senate. We want as many as we can in there to fight Palpatine, and we want them to be as influential as we can get them. Gotta prevent Palpatine from amassing more executive authority and stall for time, and we need a functioning government ready to takeover after he's gone.
 
Gonna say a pass on recruiting any anti-Palpatine Senators into the CNS. Keep them all in the Senate. We want as many as we can in there to fight Palpatine, and we want them to be as influential as we can get them.
To clarify, joining the CNS would not mean leaving the Republic or withdrawing your senator from the Galactic Senate (cf. Kin Robb and Tal Merrik in canon, or Tendau Bendon or Silya Shessaun here). It might mean that their influence is reduced -- but frankly that'd depending very much on context.

Ithor was already known to be pacifist, so their joining the CNS did nothing to undercut their position or influence with other Republic systems. In fact, it might have enhanced it, coming as it did just after we negotiated a galactic cease-fire. Likewise for Corellia -- they're known to be neutral, so this would just make it official. Onaconda Farr is a special case -- he's known as a diehard Loyalist, but his Rodian patriotism will cause serious issues for the Republic's defenses, so moving to the CNS would remove the need for that and therefore ensure that he retains his influence. Plus, a diehard Loyalist joining the Neutral party would be quite a political coup for us. Mon Mothma is an outspoken anti-militarist who belongs to the party that wants more local control -- joining the CNS would be a natural extension of that, and wouldn't undercut her position at all.

The reason I specified that Alderaan shouldn't formally join the CNS, is because we want Bail Organa to be in a position to replace Palpatine after the fact, and that means keeping the militarist faction within the Senate happy with him. He's a moderate, which means he's able to meet and work with politicians from all over the spectrum -- like Orn Free Taa, but much less corrupt/much more respected.

The same is true for Sern Prime, for different reasons. Senator Fang Zar has cultivated a reputation for plain-spoken idealism in service to the Republic -- I'd rather not cause anyone to question whether there's more depth and complexity to him under the surface. Still, an informal alliance could certainly be in the cards.
 
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To clarify, joining the CNS would not mean leaving the Republic or withdrawing your senator from the Galactic Senate (cf. Kin Robb and Tal Merrik in canon, or Tendau Bendon or Silya Shessaun here). It might mean that their influence is reduced -- but frankly that'd depending very much on context.

Ithor was already known to be pacifist, so their joining the CNS did nothing to undercut their position or influence with other Republic systems. In fact, it might have enhanced it, coming as it did just after we negotiated a galactic cease-fire. Likewise for Corellia -- they're known to be neutral, so this would just make it official. Onaconda Farr is a special case -- he's known as a diehard Loyalist, but his Rodian patriotism will cause serious issues for the Republic's defenses, so moving to the CNS would remove the need for that and therefore ensure that he retains his influence. Plus, a diehard Loyalist joining the Neutral party would be quite a political coup for us. Mon Mothma is an outspoken anti-militarist who belongs to the party that wants more local control -- joining the CNS would be a natural extension of that, and wouldn't undercut her position at all.

The reason I specified that Alderaan shouldn't formally join the CNS, is because we want Bail Organa to be in a position to replace Palpatine after the fact, and that means keeping the militarist faction within the Senate happy with him. He's a moderate, which means he's able to meet and work with politicians from all over the spectrum -- like Orn Free Taa, but much less corrupt/much more respected.

The same is true for Sern Prime, for different reasons. Senator Fang Zar has cultivated a reputation for plain-spoken idealism in service to the Republic -- I'd rather not cause anyone to question whether there's more depth and complexity to him under the surface. Still, an informal alliance could certainly be in the cards.
right now anyways by the end of this war i want to bully or convince them that a federation would be better than the super corrupt republic.
 
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right now any way's by the end of this war i want to bully or convince them that a federation to the rather corrupt republic would be a good idea

Why? Gonna need some elaboration there buddy, if you're gonna toss out a claim as big as that. Don't get me wrong, from an objective standpoint the corruption in the Republic is too much and needs to be curbed. But why would so drastic a change as an entire shift in government be required, and why would we, a criminal organization/conspiracy that profits from said corruption, care?
 
Why? Gonna need some elaboration there buddy, if you're gonna toss out a claim as big as that. Don't get me wrong, from an objective standpoint the corruption in the Republic is too much and needs to be curbed. But why would so drastic a change as an entire shift in government be required, and why would we, a criminal organization/conspiracy that profits from said corruption, care?
first of all, as the (probably) first ruler of the federation(the difference between a fed and republic is the a fed is a bunch of states that have the same ruling body and law's but has a different way to follow (like the u.s.a but the state's have more control and freedom) and a republic is a democratic body with no state's) (i think?) we would be able to get SO MUCH MONEY. also we want to rule the galaxy and the republic needed a giant fuck off empire that hated anything nonhuman for some reason, to change for the better(it didn't even help all that much really) .
i'd rather just have a fresh start.
 
I joined this quest back when the original thread was around pg. 60. It took me this long to actually bother to go back and read the earlier discussion....


Shortly after our initial 'Stabilize Castell' action, @Teron said that this was the result:
Ciaran has partial control and ownership over various businesses, corporations and so on. Mostly the most promising and stable ones. The Commerce Guild meanwhile has bought the ENTIRE PLANET. Mostly.
Later clarifying with an exact ownership breakdown:
80-90% to 10-20%, with the Commerce guild owning the 80-90% by having bought the entire planet and Ciaran the 10-20% due to the partial ownership and control over the best businesses and corporations?
And that was the first action, that only gave us +80 income. That doesn't account for our second action, which doubled our Castell investment income thanks to a convenient critical success.
[X] Invest in Commerce Guild companies:
Required: 30 Rolled: 84+5+10 (Omake)= 99 Critical success
Well, this went better than expected. [...] Reward: Income +80, +1 Diplomatic Status Commerce Guild
Nor does that "10-20%" account for our third action (another +60 income), or our new facility with its expanded tradeport and other upgrades.

We're currently earning +420 credits per turn from our investments in Castell. We've more than quintupled our assets and our income. I'm willing to bet that, while the pie itself will be bigger now that the planet's not in a depression, our slice of it will have grown considerably. Just as an eyeball guesstimate, I'd say we own at least 30% and probably closer to 40% of the business & trade that flows through Castell. That's a damn solid position for us to work from, if we're trying to overtake Shu Mai's control of Castell and thus of the Commerce Guild.


Don't ask me how Maul escaped though... No idea.
That was during the Clone Wars. Just looked it up, apparently he managed to move his body into a trash container which then was brought to the junkyard world Lotho Minor where he then was stuck until his brother picked him during the Clone Wars.
Huh. I wonder if Dr. Snark will let him stay 'out of commission' on Lotho Minor, or if Maul will make an appearance later in the quest.


Edit: What is the SW term for ninja'd?
My current favorite is Solo'd.
"Han shot posted first!" :V
This is my new favorite thing, and I am totally going to use it.


Even more interesting is your encounter with a Muun named Tolth Driett who works for the IGBC who offered to employ you as an assistant for his occasional visits on Coruscant, noting that you seem to be popular and capable enough to help him with his more stubborn businesspartners.
I wonder what happened to Tolth Driett. We know he was apparently involved with Damask Holdings, and this was after the massacre that killed off most of Hego Damask's allies. I wonder if he's still with the IGBC, and what he must think of how far we've come since those early days working for him....


Under IGBC aegis, try investing in say, Tattooine, Dantooine, Lothal and other future Rebel Alliance sites.
I don't think we've considered investing in Tatooine yet, though I'm not sure if either Tatooine or Lothal would really be worth our time. Anyone know why we might bother with either? OTOH, we do own property on Dantooine -- what was originally Silas Cata's mansion, converted into a Luxus Resort. Though we haven't been able to use it for anything since then. @Dr. Snark, could we do base upgrades for our Dantooine property...?


Speaking of our grandfather:
"Now, Hondo... I suggest you leave because now you are tresspassing because I don't own this place anymore." With that said you all enter your shuttle, wait for Hondo to depart first with his stolen ship before you yourself departed for Coruscant.
Back when we first picked him up as a Hero Unit, we also made contact with a certain Hondo Ohnaka. Will we ever get a chance to follow up on that meeting? He's almost as much of a 'badass normal' as Cad Bane...


She's a 'Gray Jedi' who's left the Order, but still is in contact with the Council and still helps out around the galaxy. Kinda like the Jedi Exile, come to think of it. Do we know where she is now?


And speaking of lost Jedi, this was from the aftermath of the Huk War:
The Jedi were forced to issue a public apology about their involvement, Jedi Masters T'chooka D'oon and Jmmaar have abruptly become some of the most hated men in the Republic and you are pretty sure that their High Council has probably been debating for days by now, trying to figure out what went wrong.
Do we ever know what happened to T'chooka D'oon or Jmmaar? In canon, both of them would have been killed this year by Grievous, but that's obviously not the case here. I'm assuming they were demoted in some way, given their abject failure over the Huk War came to light early on...


Okay, since he is dead and its not going to affect anything here is the summary: Palpatine was supposed to be chancellor, Hego Damask meanwhile intended to become co-chancellor. Hego Damask noticed Ciaran and intended to use her as a pawn for when he becomes co-chancellor and subtly helped her behind the scenes. Palpatine murdered Plagueis and is unaware of this since he didn't get around to mentioning it. Ciaran is currently causing havoc.
Huh. You know, I'd picked most of that up in bits and pieces, but I didn't realize @Teron had spelled it out practically from Day 1. Neat.


I get the vibe that Vectivus had a font of wisdom in his holocron. Hypothetical quotes, go:
"Galactic domination, much like revenge, is a sucker's game. You're better off simply enjoying your longer life instead of rushing off to your death."
"The Sith teachings command us to be free. The least you can do is be intelligent while you exercise those teachings."
"The Sith have tried to exterminate the Jedi for thousands of years and it still hasn't worked. You're not going to be the one Sith that figures out how to do it."
"If you think that the meaning of life is to get killed over a philosophical debate with the Jedi, perhaps you should reevaluate your priorities. Instead, try settling down somewhere instead and enjoy the finer things in life."
"Living is good. Dying is bad. I think it speaks volumes about Sith society that I have to record this as meaningful advice."
@Dr. Snark You are forgetting something.
"Baby banthas are quite cute…"
And yes, that's an actual quote from him.
Most important quote:
"I've always wanted to own the galaxy."
...Could someone do an omake about the actual content of Vectivus's holocron? Because right now I'm imagining a Sith Lord teaching his philosophy with really profound insights into the Force, and into the history of the Jedi and Sith, and how cute baby banthas are, and <record scratch> "What?!" Perhaps @Panory could do it from the perspective of Kygeetu, since she is training to be an Abyss Agent...


I read a great post on dialogue from OT, before actors turned it into something decent. It was awful, and I will definitely link it here if/when I find it. It's hilarious and painful and if I had to read it, so do you.
@Muer'ci -- I kept my eye out for the follow-up, but I don't think I ever saw you post the link. Were you able to find it?
 
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Yeah the CNS was essentially a fation of the republic that decided they did not want to participate in the war between the Republicans and the Separatists. It isn't an official secession from the Republic and my best guess is if this whole war wasn't engineered by the sith and was a genuine separatists movement then at the end of the conflict they'd end up rejoining the republic, the CIS, becoming independent or turning the CNS into something more tangible depending on how internal politics would have worked out. From cannon the CNS faced major problems to their neutrality because they were small and less centralised meaning they could not act robustly enough to prevent CIS and Republican influence/covert operations from happening in their space.

Ciaran's influence over the CNS has mean't that it has been able to combat the above problems by pursuing a policy of enlargement as well as a common defense policy between the members. As the war goes on we can really only gain as CNS planet will pick up migrants and refugee's as well as the fact that their industry will be untouched by war. In addition we can pick up war torn planets to join the CNS. However there will come a time where we (could) end up forcing the hand of one or both of the Republic & the CIS with this strategy. If you look at the map on Turn 23 detailing CNS space we've almost completely separated the galactic northeast (a Separatist stronghold) from the Republic. While good for the planets on the frontline (primarily planets now in the CNS) it means the conflict will become increasingly more intense on other fronts such as the galactic east and south as the strategic depth both the republic and CIS have increases due to what is essentially impassable space barring any movement agreements (the CNS is unlikely to appreciate a Republic and CIS fleet battle to take place in its space).

Why? Gonna need some elaboration there buddy, if you're gonna toss out a claim as big as that. Don't get me wrong, from an objective standpoint the corruption in the Republic is too much and needs to be curbed. But why would so drastic a change as an entire shift in government be required, and why would we, a criminal organization/conspiracy that profits from said corruption, care?

A drastic shift in government is needed because depending on where you draw your numbers from around 24,000 people represent around (although I'd guess less) 100 quadrillion people (100,000,000,000,000). That's around 1 representative(senator) for 4.1 trillion people yet the core worlds have special dispensation as a planet such as Alderaan has a population of 2 billion people yet has 1 representative (senator). Centralising the republic was a massive mistake as the galaxy is simply too large to govern from a single location despite the fact that it is broken up into "sectors". One way to solve this would be to create legislatures for each of the sectors in the way of devolved parliaments in the UK or state legislatures in the US.

Another problem is that the Republic in star wars is Unicameral meaning there is only 1 legislative body (the Senate) whereas in the US you have the House of Representatives and the Senate which make up the Congress with a difference in powers between both of them. The UK has a House of Lords and a House of Commons. The republics problem is that with it being Unicameral it makes it incredibly open to cronyism and corruption. If you were to take the above suggestion of creating sectoral legislatures and create a House of Sectors where each sector gets one seat (exactly what the senate is now) and alter the senate to represent say 10,000 "over sectors" (consisting of two or 3 sectors) you create a bicameral house where you can again split powers.

We could if we wanted go tricameral and introduce a House of Experts (or some other name) which would be inhabited not only by scientists and engineers but also professors leaders in businesses and ethics and economics etc to simply advise the other two legislatures and giving the HoE limited powers such as being able to return legislation for re-reading a maximum of two times (look into the house of Lords, they've used this especially well to protect disabled and old people from the HoC). This would give businesses the ability to influence policy as they do so already but what they influence will now be in the open unlike the past where it would be difficult to see who has taken donations from them but would also open up government to areas such as science which historically finds itself in an out of favour drastically affecting development.

You end up with (ranked by "importance" from top to bottom):

House of Sectors
The Senate
House of Experts

This is just one example of of reforms in one area (the legislature) which may benefit the galaxy. However I will admit I study International Relations and not domestic politics so I cant be considered an authoritative figure on legislative reform ;).

As for why we would be interested in this? Ciaran eventually wants to rule the galaxy so whats the point if we don't take the chancellors seat eventually? And why not reform the republic for the better before we die (if we get that far)?
 
@Dr. Snark, can I suggest a change to one of HK-47's stats?
Learning: 16 (Statement: HK-47 is no scientist, but he is quite adept at creating deadly weaponry from common materials.)
HK-47 is an assassin droid, not a scientist, so the low Learning makes sense. On the other hand, he does know how to create all sorts of weapons and can teach us how to reverse-engineer some pretty significant Old Republic tech. My suggestion: increase his Learning stat, but add a Trait that 'caps' his Learning for anything not related to guns.

HK-47 said:
Learning: 26 (Statement: HK-47 is no scientist, but he can make deadly weapons out of pretty much anything.)

Traits:

Assassin Droid: HK-47 knows a thousand ways to kill you, but not much else. His talents for reverse-engineering, designing, or producing weapons tech notwithstanding, he really isn't suited for any other type of research. Learning is at 1/2 of normal when used for non-military tasks.


Also, I saw something in the 'Achievements' list:
It Had To Happen Eventually: Get a Natural 1 for the first time
Except we'd previously rolled a Natural 1 back in the last thread, during Turn 13:
[X] Quell unrest the diplomatic way: Reward: Unrest on Naboo reduced/ended
Required: 20 Rolled: 1 Reroll: 29
We also rolled a "2" the same turn, that we were unable to reroll.
 
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We want to own the Galaxy, not necessarily 'rule' it. Ciaran I think is entirely happy playing Shadow Empress and simply being obscenely wealthy whilst bribing, blackmailing and generally corrupting everyone important.

For that, the Republic continuing on as it has but controlled by Ciaran rather than the Sith. Except less overtly.

That same centralisation makes the Republic easy to control, rolling prosperity out to the Rim should help quiet mutterings of Separatism once the war is over.
 
there is something to be said for making sure the system is stable. Also, a system more resilient to corruption means less competition in the future. We would be getting in on the ground floor, so what would be a minor hit to us would more or less lock out everyone else.
 
there is something to be said for making sure the system is stable. Also, a system more resilient to corruption means less competition in the future. We would be getting in on the ground floor, so what would be a minor hit to us would more or less lock out everyone else.
the only way to make the republic stable is to burn it down and build it back up again
 
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