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"I know I'm pulling you away from all sorts of very important business"
Oops
the only time a man braids a woman's hair in Leaf is if he's her father or older brother and she's just got engaged.
Oops
All of that is correct
Haha

he was still acting like other girls were relevant or worse
Oh no
in a formal, unambiguous, and binding way
Oh no, What have we done
 
It was a lot more than just an audio emission. It inserted the word directly into the target's mind. Jiraiya basically did the equivalent of an electrical engineer designing a circuit to operate off of the interactions of epiphenomenal stray magnetic fields most would usually damp and ignore while keeping the whole design dirt simple for anybody to learn just to show off with a prank. Finding a way to use it to arbitrarily alter an input sound into unrecognizability instead of pumping out a specific phoneme in his own voice should be relatively trivial.
"I'll show you," Hazō said. He reached into his pouch and produced a blank for Jiraiya's Epic Seal of Awesomeness With A Really Awesome Name That You Have To Say All Of Every Time Or It Won't Work And Also I'll Punch You In The Face, This Means You, Hazō. "Here is the mighty Jiraiya's 'sound-based genjutsu seal' that will inspire fear and/or anger." A pulse of chakra infused the seal, another activated it.

"Boo," growled Jiraiya's disembodied voice, as the legendary prankster played his last trick from beyond the grave.
This came across like the seal is making the noise, not that it's actually a genjutsu seal. That would be much harder than a 5 for the research roll. Hyping up the seal was part of the prank
 
Ok we really should nip this misunderstanding in the bud. Tell Yuno we meant an informal gesture of friendship, not a formal one. Then some options for following up
1. Ask implications of formal friendship. We may be interested in giving a formal declaration as well. Then possibly give the formal declaration.
2. Or, we have decided to give a formal declaration too, don't even need to know the implications. In order to ensure we can follow the obligations and implications we have taken upon, what are they?
 
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Word Count: 278
  • FOOM OPSEC
    • Assemble Mari, Kei, and Noburi. Follow max OPSEC.
      • Let's ensure the secret of our power is hidden.
        • Noburi (yes you)/eventual Summoners can FOOM train in the 7th path. Not always practical, never practical for Hazou/Kei due to clan duties.
          • Proposal: Create hidden chamber for meditation/training underground.
          • Area's purpose: "testing farming underground using Daybright Seals". Naturally, that's a cover for Mari's sex dungeon, as the Goketsu are publicly ashamed but wish to support her lifestyle. Discussing the chamber is awkward for anyone who somehow hears about it, and should prevent them from looking underneath the underneath.
            • Kei needs something similar at Nara compound as our estate is too far for Clan Second duties. Could use a similar excuse, Shikamaru will support Kei.
      • Ami-style training: Subtly challenge Mari to innuendo duel without letting Noburi or Kei realize there's a contest.
      • Have Mari update Akane when Akane returns.
  • Canvass
    • We've had people search for the pack you described, but haven't found anything.
    • Either their appearance changed, they aren't around anymore, or they're too well hidden.
      • We're sorry to disappoint you.
      • When Hazou's healed, he's heading a search party to locate more Scrolls for the DRAGONWAR. You could tag along and search for the pack yourself, though we have to maintain focus on the Scrolls.
        • If Canvass isn't interested, can she recommend anyone that could sniff out a Scroll? If she doesn't know any, ask Cannai.
  • Cannai
    • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
    • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
    • Bear Scroll update?
    • Cordially perform jutsu exchange*
*I will link the jutsu request post here, as we were given permission to do so.
 
I am pleased but not surprised that this went so well. We went into the situation with a good idea of the lay of the land ('Yuno feels isolated and wants to have friends') and a clear goal ('communicate platonic love and friendship to Yuno') then took care to ensure we communicated effectively (Isanese placesettings) and asked questions instead of making decisions for her (do you want a marriage, religious texts, etc.). When we're engaging in social situations reactively, we are almost invariably doing triage and first aid. Being surprised when that only does what we set out to do, or interpreting that as Hazo being bad at socials, strikes me as a bit odd. We haven't totally struck out socially in a while (Akane excepted) but we need to temper our expectations as to what we can accomplish vis-a-vis changing people's minds in one conversation. Alas, the hivemind is not necessarily good at extended campaigns/plans.

Some questions about the last update, @eaglejarl. Specifically, you left a note at the bottom that indicated that there might be a possibility that you'd write the parts of the plan you didn't get to.
I was looking forward to writing Kagome's birthday but I feel like garbage and didn't have the juice. Here's the easy part of the plan.
While my support is obviously not a deciding factor, here, I am absolutely supportive of you writing Kagome's birthday whenever you feel like you would have fun doing it, as birthdays are supposed to be fun for the people attending and/or the people they're honouring and I think that insofar as anyone is Kagome it's you and Vel.

Is there a possibility that we can get an executive summary of the Cannai portion of the plan, and work from that, or should we include that in the coming plan? I think I'm chiefly interested in the discussion of the Conclave. I expect that we'll be linking a jutsu list instead of including it. (I'm specifically hoping that we might do so as I don't agree with all the jutsu on the list...)
Cannai:
  • Thanks to the bison meat you provided, starvation in Leaf has been temporarily stayed. How can we repay you?
    • Can we arrange regular trade?
    • We can help with hunting.
  • How did the Conclave go?
    • Relay Ami's idea for ensuring safe passage.
    • Important territories for travel: Leopard or Hyena, and Cat.
  • Here are jutsu we'd be interested in learning:
    • Spacetime
    • Uplift: constructing walls and roads, cleaning water, preserving food
    • Enhancing mental fortitude
    • Related to "nature chakra"
      • Hazou knows: Innate to summons, dangerous to drain, but empowers chakra beasts
    • Those that were most useful to previous summoners.
    • What jutsu would the dogs like in exchange?
      • Should trades be case-by-case?
  • Any response on the Bear Scroll?
 
My proposed jutsu list:
  • Previous updates indicated that the Dogs have earth jutsu (digging etc.) - we'd like jutsu that align well with our developing niche as an earthshaper.
  • Close-quarters Lightning nature jutsu that would synergize well with Haru's abilities/style. He won't be FOOMing for a while, and the clan has a number of lightning natures who can also benefit.
  • Villages experience issues with crops (field fertility/yield/etc.), infrastructure (housing/roads), the availability of clean water, food preservation, and cleanliness in general. Any jutsu a ninja could apply simply which would help with these would be appreciated, as would general Dog best practices we may not be aware of on the Human Path - if you have insight into civilian-accessible techniques to help with any of the above, we'd count those as jutsu-equivalent.
  • Jutsu related to enhancing our mental fortitude or draining that of our opponents.
  • Any jutsu that you in your infinite wisdom as leader of the Dog clan (joking reference to his making fun of our asking for gold) believe would be useful to us which we have not captured in the other points of this list.
 
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War with Kumo???
The NE corner of Fire borders Hot Springs, if I'm reading the map right. You need to go through both Hot Springs and Frost to get to Cloud.

"How reassuring," Kei purred with no warmth in her voice whatsoever. "Because it sounds to me as if you used a romantic relationship with my sister as the subject of a competition, an act of vilest disrespect that somehow manages to bring the central sin to extraordinary new lows."
She instantly figured it out. Perfect.
Actually, Ami used a promise of a romantic relationship as the subject of a competition...

It was a lot more than just an audio emission. It inserted the word directly into the target's mind.
No, it was spoken aloud.

Is there a possibility that we can get an executive summary of the Cannai portion of the plan, and work from that, or should we include that in the coming plan?
Probably not before tomorrow. Sorry.
 
Kei blew up not that many updates before that
IMO that wasn't our fault, and the fix that came out of that was a net gain for our relationship. Maybe you could say that the part where our lines of communication with Kei were screwed up was on us at least in part, but her exploding due to a) outside stressors beyond our control and b) genuine miscommunications which were resolved quite quickly and to mutual satisfaction doesn't feel like striking out to me.
 
I suspect this would be pretty difficult. Rather than emitting a sound burst like Earbusters or J's seal, this seal would need detect someone speaking and then modify that voice on the fly with no template. That seems much more difficult compared to something like researching a seal that can record and play back a message, which would be building on the sound seals we know about.
Based on things Hazo doesn't know:

A seal strapped to the throat which vibrates at 20-ish Hz would result in someone sounding different. However, it wouldn't produce a uniform ANBU voice. However, I'm not sure that a uniform ANBU voice was ever really going to be possible because a single seal is just going to modulate the input signal, so the output will always be based on it in some way (unless Hazo gets really into audio engineering).

We know that there are loudspeaker jutsu from the Chuunin exams. Asking Kagome if he knows of any similar seals would be an interesting place to start doing audio work.

That said, I do somewhat question the degree to which the ANBU genuinely care about maintaining secret identities. We were able to identify one because she carried the same sword around as a 'civilian' ninja and an ANBU operative. That's the sort of 101 stuff I would have expected to be noticed if it were a priority - the Tower provides you with all your gear and there's a clear separation between what you use on and off the clock.

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"And why not?" Kei demanded.

"I-I beg your pardon?"

"Exactly what is it about my sister that does not satisfy you? Are you claiming that she is insufficiently beautiful? Insufficiently brilliant? Insufficiently creative? How do you, who have already twice seduced your own subordinate across a staggering power gap, accepted the unimaginable risks inherent in dating a mind-reader from a rival clan, and embraced even the inhuman in pursuit of your objectives, justify rejecting this opportunity to enter into a romance with the paragon of womanhood? In what way does she fail to meet your standards?"
The answer here is fairly simple:
  1. It's hard for Hazou to keep up with Ami, no doubt in part because she chooses not to slow down for his benefit, and as such there's only so much interaction with Ami Hazou can handle at once, despite (or even because of) the fact that she is objectively beautiful, brilliant, and creative. Friendship, even up to ambiguously-serious flirting, is much easier to handle than a full relationship.
  2. While love is a personal thing and cannot be truly gainsaid by anyone else it also remains true that Hazou does not like upsetting those close to him, and the last time Kei thought Hazou and Ami were in a relationship the thought caused her great distress. Moreover, he already has two girlfriends and it's their polycule as much as it is his, so unilaterally adding Ami would be disrespectful to their autonomy. Thus, if Hazou is not already in love with Ami, it makes sense for him to not seek out falling in love with her if success would hurt people he already cares about.
I don't think Hazou would deny that he finds Ami attractive, both physically and mentally (well, except in fear of Open Mouth Insert Foot), but the question at hand is whether he intends to pursue a relationship with her, and he can find her attractive but still want to stay just friends...

...at least for now. Neither of those reasonings are immutable, after all, and given Kei's reaction here we might even be able to strike the Kei part of reason 2 off the record entirely, leaving it largely a question of when Hazou grows in social skill, maturity, and understanding of The Ami to keep up with her without feeling drained. Of course, there's more to love than 'attraction and no major reasons to stay distant', and there's no guarantee Ami would choose to reciprocate rather than keep playing the ambiguously-serious flirting game or some variant, but it's the point where he might seriously consider whether he wants that or not.
 
[X] The Goketsu Heritage Expands
Word Count: 278
  • FOOM OPSEC
    • Assemble Mari, Kei, and Noburi. Follow max OPSEC.
      • Let's ensure the secret of our power is hidden.
        • Noburi (yes you)/eventual Summoners can FOOM train in the 7th path. Not always practical, never practical for Hazou/Kei due to clan duties.
          • Proposal: Create hidden chamber for meditation/training underground.
          • Area's purpose: "testing farming underground using Daybright Seals". Naturally, that's a cover for Mari's sex dungeon, as the Goketsu are publicly ashamed but wish to support her lifestyle. Discussing the chamber is awkward for anyone who somehow hears about it, and should prevent them from looking underneath the underneath.
            • Kei needs something similar at Nara compound as our estate is too far for Clan Second duties. Could use a similar excuse, Shikamaru will support Kei.
      • Ami-style training: Subtly challenge Mari to innuendo duel without letting Noburi or Kei realize there's a contest.
      • Have Mari update Akane when Akane returns.
  • Canvass
    • We've had people search for the pack you described, but haven't found anything.
    • Either their appearance changed, they aren't around anymore, or they're too well hidden.
      • We're sorry to disappoint you.
      • When Hazou's healed, he's heading a search party to locate more Scrolls for the DRAGONWAR. You could tag along and search for the pack yourself, though we have to maintain focus on the Scrolls.
        • If Canvass isn't interested, can she recommend anyone that could sniff out a Scroll? If she doesn't know any, ask Cannai.
  • Cannai
    • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
    • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
    • Bear Scroll update?
    • Cordially perform jutsu exchange*
*I will link the jutsu request post here, as we were given permission to do so.
Would you include mentioning Ami's ideas about a Conclave convoy (bulk transit through Cat) to Cannai?
 
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War with Kumo???

-or the golemn in the swamp of death has finished waking up. -or whatever Waterfall is hiding is on the move. -or Rain has a new domin-or Rock and/or Grass decided to retaliate over the bridge thing...

Y'know, we should probably read Yuno into some of the current situation before she leaves.


The more she looked, the more suspicious Yuno grew. Were the mistakes natural or deliberate? The yellow cushion for Satsuko followed the proper forms of a child's seat, but Satsuko was not only older than either of them, but older than Isan itself, having been retrieved from one of Ui's secret caches shortly after the founding of the village.

Okay, step one is having Kagome go over this thing with a fine-toothed comb. Step two is hiring the best bladesmith available to do the same. Step three is hiring the best blade-wielder to do the same. Step four is asking the librarian and the Nara for any potentially relevant records. Step five is cross-referencing them with Jiraiya's records. Step six is sending somebody out to talk to that shopkeeper Jiraiya contact with documented Isan heritage. Step seven is talking to the diplomatic team arranging relations with Isan and getting them to pursue any leads on the matter...


"Probably," Yuno said. "You guys don't often send your jōnin on chakra beast hunts—if a chakra beast's too dangerous for chūnin to handle, and it's a choice between risking jōnin and sacrificing a village or two, it generally ends up being the latter. Whereas I've been regularly fighting chakra beasts since I was… well, since the day Daddy died. Obviously, I'm still learning my way around the Fire Country—your quislings are way better than our quislings—but that's why I've got a couple of chūnin to back me up. Hopefully I'll get to kill lots of new and interesting things, and who knows, maybe we'll even find some survivors."

*Screeching halt*

Wait, she's a full jounin? Presumably she was promoted before she went missing, so it happened at the age of what? Despite the systematic persecution of her? Hell, Naruto isn't even a jounin, and he's an outright s-ranker with the most sympathetic and beloved backstory in history.


[X] The Goketsu Heritage Expands
Word Count: 278
  • FOOM OPSEC
    • Assemble Mari, Kei, and Noburi. Follow max OPSEC.
      • Let's ensure the secret of our power is hidden.
        • Noburi (yes you)/eventual Summoners can FOOM train in the 7th path. Not always practical, never practical for Hazou/Kei due to clan duties.
          • Proposal: Create hidden chamber for meditation/training underground.
          • Area's purpose: "testing farming underground using Daybright Seals". Naturally, that's a cover for Mari's sex dungeon, as the Goketsu are publicly ashamed but wish to support her lifestyle. Discussing the chamber is awkward for anyone who somehow hears about it, and should prevent them from looking underneath the underneath.
            • Kei needs something similar at Nara compound as our estate is too far for Clan Second duties. Could use a similar excuse, Shikamaru will support Kei.
      • Ami-style training: Subtly challenge Mari to innuendo duel without letting Noburi or Kei realize there's a contest.
      • Have Mari update Akane when Akane returns.
  • Canvass
    • We've had people search for the pack you described, but haven't found anything.
    • Either their appearance changed, they aren't around anymore, or they're too well hidden.
      • We're sorry to disappoint you.
      • When Hazou's healed, he's heading a search party to locate more Scrolls for the DRAGONWAR. You could tag along and search for the pack yourself, though we have to maintain focus on the Scrolls.
        • If Canvass isn't interested, can she recommend anyone that could sniff out a Scroll? If she doesn't know any, ask Cannai.
  • Cannai
    • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
    • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
    • Bear Scroll update?
    • Cordially perform jutsu exchange*
*I will link the jutsu request post here, as we were given permission to do so.

Actually, what happens to a shadow clone if its host leaves the current dimension of reality asks Lail while investing in bulk acetylsalicylic acid producers.
 
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*Screeching halt*

Wait, she's a full jounin? Presumably she was promoted before she went missing, so it happened at the age of what? Despite the systematic persecution of her? Hell, Naruto isn't even a jounin, and he's an outright s-ranker with the most sympathe
To be fair, she's been Isan's meat shield since the day her father died. Not to mention the fact that she's literally only ever been training in her spare time for that long (aside from learning "Isan Wifely Hobbies" in the hope that she could have a family one day).
 
Hell, Naruto isn't even a jounin, and he's an outright s-ranker with the most sympathetic and beloved backstory in history.
Is he not a jounin? We know he only got promoted to Chuunin at the Exams before ours, and we can guess that he was vastly overqualified and was mainly kept a Genin that long so that he could flex on all the other nations, but it's been quite some time since he made Chuunin and he's clearly got the combat ability for it. I don't think we've heard his official rank one way or the other in recent memory.
 
To be fair, she's been Isan's meat shield since the day her father died. Not to mention the fact that she's literally only ever been training in her spare time for that long (aside from learning "Isan Wifely Hobbies" in the hope that she could have a family one day).

Yes, but still, literally village-hero-savior son-of-hokage godson-of-another-hokage Naruto isn't a jounin yet. She pulled it off at, what, fourteen years old while everybody hated her for her fundamental and unadjustable nature?

This chick is scary.



Is he not a jounin? We know he only got promoted to Chuunin at the Exams before ours, and we can guess that he was vastly overqualified and was mainly kept a Genin that long so that he could flex on all the other nations, but it's been quite some time since he made Chuunin and he's clearly got the combat ability for it. I don't think we've heard his official rank one way or the other in recent memory.

I'm pretty sure that as of Hiashi's election he was still just a chuunin, and he's older than her, much less than she was whenever she got promoted.
 
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Actually, what happens to a shadow clone if its host leaves the current dimension of reality asks Lail while investing in bulk acetylsalicylic acid producers.
It pops.
Would you include mentioning Ami's ideas about a Conclave convoy (bulk transit through Cat) to Cannai?
Sure, but I don't really think it was that insightful (no offense Ami). Her solution was basically "uh why are you asking this question, who's gonna refuse a convoy of multiple bosses and their armies and not get wrecked?"
 
[X] The Goketsu Heritage Expands
Word Count: 286
  • FOOM OPSEC
    • Assemble Mari, Kei, and Noburi. Follow max OPSEC.
      • Let's ensure the secret of our power is hidden.
        • Noburi (yes you)/eventual Summoners can FOOM train in the 7th path. Not always practical, never practical for Hazou/Kei due to clan duties.
          • Proposal: Create hidden chamber for meditation/training underground.
          • Area's purpose: "testing farming underground using Daybright Seals". Naturally, that's a cover for Mari's sex dungeon, as the Goketsu are publicly ashamed but wish to support her lifestyle. Discussing the chamber is awkward for anyone who somehow hears about it, and should prevent them from looking underneath the underneath.
            • Kei needs something similar at Nara compound as our estate is too far for Clan Second duties. Could use a similar excuse, Shikamaru will support Kei.
      • Ami-style training: Subtly challenge Mari to innuendo duel without letting Noburi or Kei realize there's a contest.
      • Have Mari update Akane when Akane returns.
  • Canvass
    • We've had people search for the pack you described, but haven't found anything.
    • Either their appearance changed, they aren't around anymore, or they're too well hidden.
      • We're sorry to disappoint you.
      • When Hazou's healed, he's heading a search party to locate more Scrolls for the DRAGONWAR. You could tag along and search for the pack yourself, though we have to maintain focus on the Scrolls.
        • If Canvass isn't interested, can she recommend anyone that could sniff out a Scroll? If she doesn't know any, ask Cannai.
  • Cannai
    • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
    • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
      • Share Ami's insight on navigating through unfriendly territory.
    • Bear Scroll update?
    • Cordially perform jutsu exchange*
*I will link the jutsu request post here, as we were given permission to do so.
 
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