FWIW, I don't think she's necessarily saying she's a Jonin (and we did kind of figure out the ballpark of her best stat, which I believe was high chunin?).But rather that sincethe Jonin don't do that, she, as a high chunin with a high degree of specialization in the field (and pride in her demonic sword and skills, if little else) who does do those missions, is likely the best person at that specific skill.

On a related note, it means doing the chakra beast infinite feedback hunt could be a bonding activity! Noburi, Keiko and Yuno! That sounds like a fun scene for combat AND personal reasons.
 
FWIW, I don't think she's necessarily saying she's a Jonin (and we did kind of figure out the ballpark of her best stat, which I believe was high chunin?).But rather that sincethe Jonin don't do that, she, as a high chunin with a high degree of specialization in the field (and pride in her demonic sword and skills, if little else) who does do those missions, is likely the best person at that specific skill.

On a related note, it means doing the chakra beast infinite feedback hunt could be a bonding activity! Noburi, Keiko and Yuno! That sounds like a fun scene for combat AND personal reasons.

She explicitly said that she had a couple of chuunin backing her up on the mission. That's an oddly specific statement if she is also a chuunin.
 
"Probably," Yuno said. "You guys don't often send your jōnin on chakra beast hunts—if a chakra beast's too dangerous for chūnin to handle, and it's a choice between risking jōnin and sacrificing a village or two, it generally ends up being the latter. Whereas I've been regularly fighting chakra beasts since I was… well, since the day Daddy died. Obviously, I'm still learning my way around the Fire Country—your quislings are way better than our quislings—but that's why I've got a couple of chūnin to back me up. Hopefully I'll get to kill lots of new and interesting things, and who knows, maybe we'll even find some survivors."
...that's a sizeable fraction of Konoha's military power. Are we sure they're doing what Yuno says they're doing?
 
[X] The Goketsu Heritage Expands
Word Count: 286
  • FOOM OPSEC
    • Assemble Mari, Kei, and Noburi. Follow max OPSEC.
      • Let's ensure the secret of our power is hidden.
        • Noburi (yes you)/eventual Summoners can FOOM train in the 7th path. Not always practical, never practical for Hazou/Kei due to clan duties.
          • Proposal: Create hidden chamber for meditation/training underground.
          • Area's purpose: "testing farming underground using Daybright Seals". Naturally, that's a cover for Mari's sex dungeon, as the Goketsu are publicly ashamed but wish to support her lifestyle. Discussing the chamber is awkward for anyone who somehow hears about it, and should prevent them from looking underneath the underneath.
            • Kei needs something similar at Nara compound as our estate is too far for Clan Second duties. Could use a similar excuse, Shikamaru will support Kei.
      • Ami-style training: Subtly challenge Mari to innuendo duel without letting Noburi or Kei realize there's a contest.
      • Have Mari update Akane when Akane returns.
  • Canvass
    • We've had people search for the pack you described, but haven't found anything.
    • Either their appearance changed, they aren't around anymore, or they're too well hidden.
      • We're sorry to disappoint you.
      • When Hazou's healed, he's heading a search party to locate more Scrolls for the DRAGONWAR. You could tag along and search for the pack yourself, though we have to maintain focus on the Scrolls.
        • If Canvass isn't interested, can she recommend anyone that could sniff out a Scroll? If she doesn't know any, ask Cannai.
  • Cannai
    • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
    • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
      • Share Ami's insight on navigating through unfriendly territory.
    • Bear Scroll update?
    • Cordially perform jutsu exchange*
*I will link the jutsu request post here, as we were given permission to do so.

Noburi will definitely pick up on any war, that's not reasonable. Doing the war such that Noburi's reactions to it don't give it away to Kei is the real challenge.
Also, Kei could probably train in the compound because she'd need Chakra water from Noburi anyway.

She explicitly said that she had a couple of chuunin backing her up on the mission. That's an oddly specific statement if she is also a chuunin.

I don't think it's that strange of a statement. For one thing, between social isolation and then traveling alone, she's not used to backup, so to get it's noteworthy. But also since she's both the field expert and the mission leader, (and she's not used to working as part of a unit) them being her backup in her mind seems like it could make sense.

Don't get me wrong, I think she's a strong fighter, and "big possessed weapon kills you" no jutsu is likely better than any of Hazou's skills. But I wouldn't be surprised if her skill tree looks similar to Lee's, with a distinctly and second best stat, and probably less padding around the middle of the build. I could be very wrong, but it still gives me the impression that she'd be someone who would end up in special Jonin instead of Jonin because of her skills for a while (as opposed to because of tax evasion).
 
...that's a sizeable fraction of Konoha's military power. Are we sure they're doing what Yuno says they're doing?
How many chuunin does Leaf have? Let's say she means three backing her up, including Akane. ('A couple' could mean two etc.) Let's say that they're an efficient party and can kill enough chakra beasts every four days to save a village. Three week adventure, five villages saved, two of them high-value: IMO it scans that that Leaf is willing to commit 1-3% of their chuunin to what smells like a B-rank mission. If Leaf reserves half its chuunin at any given time, and every B-rank mission takes a similar force, then they can have 20-50 such missions ongoing at once. That number is probably a little lower given that chuunin are going to be on C-rank missions with some regularity, but you'll have the occasional jonin take a B-rank. Those numbers all feel reasonable to me.
Wait, she's a full jounin? Presumably she was promoted before she went missing, so it happened at the age of what? Despite the systematic persecution of her? Hell, Naruto isn't even a jounin, and he's an outright s-ranker with the most sympathetic and beloved backstory in history.
An explanation equally-consistent with reality: the Hokage has declined to as-of-yet rank Yuno, because she's only recently moved from 'irreplacable diplomatic asset' to 'someone whose death would be regrettable but not of geopolitical consequence'. This mission reflects that he's politely asked her if she'd be willing to go murder some chakra beasts, and she couldn't pack her bags fast enough.

We also have no strong evidence that Isan has the concept of genin/chuunin/jonin - she might have left as an uncategorized ninja, or Isan's ranking system might not map clearly to genin/chuunin/jonin, if they even have such a system. They were isolated before the establishment of the Hidden Village system. Prior to the establishment of the Hidden Village system, my impression is that groups of ninja were clans, with no need for formal designations of rank (you know that you're better than your cousin and worse than your uncle) or maybe you'd get a mentor running around with their pupils - also no need for a formal designation of rank, because you're teacher or student. Moreover, they don't have the same tradition of conducting ranked missions as we do (they don't have clients, after all, so whether a mission is A or C doesn't matter, because they aren't really getting paid for it) so the only reason for them to have ranks is to adhere to a sense of tradition and provide some gating for knowledge - can't learn Wind Scythe until you're at least a Quartz, and you're only a Fluorite.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find that Yuno believes that our system of ninja ranking is somehow barbarous ('you mean you only have three ranks? how do you figure out who sits next to each other at dinner?!') and is perfectly happy existing outside of it for as long as she can.

A final possibility: Asuma will eventually designate Yuno a genin. She will take the chuunin exams and demonstrate the might of Isan-nin by almost-but-not-quite disembowling literally everyone she comes across. It doesn't make sense to designate her a genin for any longer than absolutely necessary, as she's then, y'know, a genin, but he can't show her off to maximum effect in the chuunin exams until resource-sharing agreements (his ability to send Isan-nin on missions) are firmly in place and everyone's trying to figure out exactly how badass the average Isanese ninja is.
 
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PSA: Please vote in a FOOM OPSEC plan for Thursday separately from the action plan.

Use the '(FOOM OPSEC)' tag for it and (Action) for the action plan. (FOOM OPSEC) plans over 300 words will be ignored.

We would like to handle this in the background but we also want to give you a chance to hash it out and come to consensus. Voting is open on this until close of voting on Wednesday.
damn

in that case i'm just gonna write a new plan since over half the other one is for the opsec scene
 
First, it's four ranks. There is a semi-jounin status for niche specialists.

Second, the very existence of that combined with Mari's adamant position that there are no jounin exams, Jiraiya's comments along the lines of, "I don't think you're ever going to be a jounin", the link to a jounin-aura, and the universal practice of cutting them slack on what would otherwise be severe, character-defining eccentricities suggests that there is more to it being a deep part of the person instead of just being a formal military rank. If somebody walks into a room and says, "I'm a jounin", every jounin in there can glance at them and come to a unanimous consensus about whether they are telling the truth.

Third, We have Nara-confirmation that Orochimaru has his house back because he exploited Leaf tax law having been written before missing-nin were even a thing and it carved out special privileges for jounin at the very inception of the first village, so it's clearly a holdover from the warring clans period and a pretty big deal.
 
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If somebody walks into a room and says, "I'm a jounin", every jounin in the can glance at them and come to a unanimous consensus about whether they are telling the truth.
If ninja go through seven ranks in Isan then an aura might be a requisite for rank 6. It's certainly an indicator, and any coherent system would acknowledge it.

Which means that there's a two in three chance that any given system does.
Third, We have Nara-confirmation that Orochimaru has his house back because he exploited Leaf tax law having been written before missing-nin were even a thing and it carved out special privileges for jounin at the very inception of the first village, so it's clearly a holdover from the warring clans period and a pretty big deal.
Isan was isolated for 500 years. We don't know when the Warring Clans period was or if UI thought that tax law was all stupid and prohibited it, instead opting for a simpler system.
 
[X] Fire and Brimstone (and Some Dogs)
Word Count: 294
  • Kagome:
    • Between other scenes, assist with Rift analysis seals for 2 of Kagome's research cycles.
    • Would you be willing to learn summoning from a Goketsu?
    • Ask about:
      • Hazou's experience of Dragon Aura. Did the Sage make them from the Out?
      • Dragons were created to fight the ten tails, which was split into tailed beasts... three tailed beasts were caught in Pein's ritual. Could this destabilize the Seal? What if it's failing intentionally? A safety mechanism, in case of tailed beast fuckery?
      • Nekkar implied a greater threat. Does the 7th Path have other weapons?
      • Jiraiya killed the Squirrel Summoner a couple years ago. Were there hints of this in his notes? Could we look through them?
        • Declare: Jiraiya, unwashed bachelor, left his clothes from that day in a storage scroll, marred with his blood and the Squirrel Summoner's.

  • Dogs
    • Cannai & friends
      • Thanks for the Bison, the poor are eating better than they ever have. What can we do for you to make this somewhat regular?
      • Conclave news? Clans involved, path to Arachnid, etc.
        • Share Ami's insight on navigating through unfriendly territory.
      • Bear Scroll update?
      • When Hazou heals, he's heading a search party to find the Squirrel Scroll. Do you have any trackers that could sniff out a scroll that could temporarily contract with us?
    • (Offscreen) Tell Canvass we had people search for the pack she described, but didn't find anything.
  • HOWS
    • Replace HOWS when appropriate.
    • Ask Kumokogo how the Dragon Aura feels to her.
    • Speed up progress on the tunnel by using Noburi refills on the Human Path.
    • If Arachnids have learned seal-usage, during the distraction:
      • Suicide implosion seals near Dragon's lungs
      • Lure Dragons at high speed into 5SB'd ultra-thin spider silk
    • If possible, bring Kadokura Ruri (or others) to confirm Dragons.
    • Survive.
 
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If ninja go through seven ranks in Isan then an aura might be a requisite for rank 6. It's certainly an indicator, and any coherent system would acknowledge it.

Which means that there's a two in three chance that any given system does.

Isan was isolated for 500 years. We don't know when the Warring Clans period was or if UI thought that tax law was all stupid and prohibited it, instead opting for a simpler system.

The warring clans period went from the initial invention of clans as a sociolopolitical anchor organization to when the village system was founded approximately a century ago. That isolated village organizes itself around clans, so it was clearly founded during the warring clan period.

Furthermore, Yuno said, "You don't send your jounin out on these missions and instead relegate them to chuunin", so her home culture clearly operates with chuunin and jounin ranks.
 
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  • Ask Kumokogo what the Dragons' aura feels like to her
  • Replace the defunct seals with fresh ones.
  • Utilize the tunnel Hazou has been digging for a month
  • Provide implosion seals for decoy 7th path denizens to use on Dragons
  • If other Summoners have reached Arachnid, have them observe Dragons for combat data.
    • Neji could also observe ambient chakra around the Great Seal from within the tunnel.
  • survive
If we're using seals on the Dragons I think we should also use 5SB'd silk as a weapon. Also we might need to train various Arachnids/Hornets to use seals.
 
I'm not angry, I'm ecstatic. We added a prodigy-level currently-or-soon-to-be elite jounin destined to become an s-ranker before her twentieth birthday to our roster and didn't even realize it. So many problems just became as easy as simply saying "hey Yuno, the family needs this thing to not be breathing anymore."

Like, seriously, the next plan could contain the words "hey Yuno, we kinda own this bit of land out in the middle of nowhere and it needs to be decontaminated before the civilians can move in and start making everything better for everybody" and she would be out the door with her go-bag before Hazou even finished the sentence.
 
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We already voted this in, Kumokogo reluctantly agreed. I'll add the 5SB thing though.
I think @Lailoken has been advocating for trying out molten glass in storage seals/macerators for a while, probably can't hurt. I think that covers most of the anti-Dragon tactics discussed so far in the thread.
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When the meeting is so unbelievably boring that EJ just refuses to write it.
 
What is a macerator of molten glass supposed to do against something with fireproof skin that is also giant? Can we even heat glass to the temperature at which it melts.

Well, it was boiling glass, and regarding the dragons specifically the idea was to shove a few dozen down their throats wrapped around an explosive tag and it would only turn into glass after it burned and the vapor condensed, but yes. This setting has swamp-hick civilians in a town of a hundred people who can maintain iron at molten temperatures long enough to soak chakra spines in it. Putting some rust, sand, and charcoal in a kiln shouldn't be beyond their capabilities.
 
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Well, it was boiling glass, and regarding the dragons specifically the idea was to shove a few dozen down their throats wrapped around an explosive tag and it would only turn into glass after it burned and the vapor condensed, but yes. This setting has swamp-hick civilians in a town of a hundred people who can maintain iron at molten temperatures long enough to soak chakra spines in it. Putting some rust, sand, and charcoal in a kiln shouldn't be beyond their capabilities.
The fire comes out of their throats too, I consider this substantially less likely to work than the other two, especially since there is only a small chance a Hornet will be able to get an intact seal inside the Dragon's mouth.
They can roar, so they clearly have lungs(?), whether they need their lungs(?) is unknown.
 
The fire comes out of their throats too, I consider this substantially less likely to work than the other two, especially since there is only a small chance a Hornet will be able to get an intact seal inside the Dragon's mouth.

They can roar, so they clearly have lungs(?), whether they need their lungs(?) is unknown.
We can be reasonably certain that they take action which results in the air vibrating in an intense manner.

This does, naturally, presuppose that the Seventh Path contains something similar to air.
 
What is a macerator of molten glass supposed to do against something with fireproof skin that is also giant? Can we even heat glass to the temperature at which it melts?
We know that MfD smiths regularly melt iron, which takes about ~1540 C, glass melts at ~1700 C and boils at ~2230 C. Honestly a few hundred C more can be very difficult to attain in the furnace. Ironworkers in Europe didn't figure out cast iron until the 15th century. Although it's worth noting that in Asia they had it 2000 years earlier. It is possible that MfD smiths can melt iron but not glass, in which case we could use molten iron.

Tbh I think the odds of either one being successful are low. Frankly, we are throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, in terms of the current seals we can deploy. Regular explosives might be useful as well, just to see if they have any effect at all.
 
The fire comes out of their throats too, I consider this substantially less likely to work than the other two, especially since there is only a small chance a Hornet will be able to get an intact seal inside the Dragon's mouth.

They can roar, so they clearly have lungs(?), whether they need their lungs(?) is unknown.

Evolution rarely creates something which isn't an immediate benefit to fitness, and roaring doesn't appear to be important enough to their survival, so we can probably assume that it's a byproduct of their having lungs for other reasons.
 
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