Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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You're right, far too safe, let's add:
- Ask casually at the end if her model of Hazou expected this
- You can't wait to know more of her....dance partner.
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While I know it'll take a lot of experience to make Hazou a skilled writer, I do admit that it's a personal goal of mine to have Hazou start on that path sometime soon. We have an excellent story seed in 'that time we went into the afterlife to save someone and came back alive' and down the line I expect having writing skills will make it easier to spread Uplift and related ideals through storytelling. We could write stories akin to the Five-Kage-Alliance against Akatsuki, displaying unity between villages in the face of a common enemy as something to be applauded while remaining on unquestionable moral ground as the Battle of the Gods is clearly very dear to us, being the event where our father gave his life to save the world. Stuff like that.
HISTORIANS: The details of Lord Goketsu's life are far more interesting than the stories he wrote about his adventure.
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Well. I think Macbeth would, at least, go over well. It's a work that supports the divine right of kings, the position of kingship as a sacral position rather than a political one, and that there are severe consequences for those who transgress against it. There's even somewhat of a precedent in it, with Hazou discovering a love of poetry. The real question is if the QMs would be okay with writing it, since that involves bringing in earth-culture into a world that does not have the same historical/cultural contexts as earth.
We might be able to have him study the forms, practice it a little bit with Mari and Ino as critics. That said, it might be that the QMs would find bringing in familiar literature into the MfD universe a little boring to write. I could see that happening as well. A unique deathworld with magic, chakra monsters, and eldritch horrors lying just beyond the threads of reality and the players decide to... plagiarize Shakespeare? I'm not saying that the QMs do or don't feel this way, just that I could see how they might.
As for our experience with the Out and with the Afterlife... I'd be okay with hiring an author to tell the story of Hazou's more esoteric experiences, drawing upon Kagome and other sealmasters for academic proof. A little like what happened with Tsunade's teachings, except in an attempt to clarify the inherently chaotic nature of the Out. It might not do anything or lead anywhere, but if enough generations of people add to the Explorations of the Out, then there might end up being a pattern that future generations can utilize.
But I'd like to churn through some of our backlog of stuff, first. Mari's mental state, Honoka's health, the mine, the sanitation project, the skyglider experiments, citrus trade, and whatnot.
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And the Kumo-kaiju. Don't forget that.
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From here, and it ends April 9 (1 week from April 2, when it was taken).
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Chapter 336, it's "Electrically Fried" from his battle with the Jashin cultist Daizen.
Faflec wields power beyond the capacity of such mortals as I.
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Nothing is going on, citizens.
My idea was less "copy Lord Of the Rings, with the names changed" and more "Codify all the existing but confused folklore in an unified and rich world with a clear mythology". But your point is a completely valid one.
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Done, thanks. I think. Did Keiko really spend a month hunting the Condor Summoner?
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I'm pretty sure she did, yes. I actually meant to bring this up in response to the following line, which seems... well, I suppose it is still technically accurate.
Edit: Oh, and this one too:
Think about it: you're presuming that faflec integrates skills, powers, and by extension traits of others. How selective is that process? Is an option to not take a certain attribute available? Because if not, well, I would assume that even atemporal borganisms would be vulnerable to the Grue, and there's a certain player claimed by it among us. And so by one sacrifice...
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You are making a highly questionable assumption which I will refrain from posting in this thread.
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Well, if Akane can obtain Shadow Clones, then we she could start her journey to S-rank? The problem remains the extreme mental damages that can happen if we're not careful. She doesn't have an hive-mind behind her decision like Hazou.
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For the lowering taxes proposal, we could open up our mine, have people move in and start a mining town around it. We would be their daimyo then, and could set our own tax rate for them. We can set the tax rate at a reasonable percent of earnings, in ryo instead of goods. I expect that we would take a loss on the first year as we would be expected to pay more taxes than we are actually collecting from them, but we would then start making quite a lot more in subsequent years as the non-mining sectors of the town's economy grows. That will make back the money we lost and will be a good source of income for us going forward.
In order for the townspeople to have access to ryo to pay our taxes with we'll have to give them access to Till n Fills that allow trade between the town and Leaf so that they can sell the metals produced by the mine and any other goods they make. At first these Till n Fills will need to be to be heavily subsidized by us so they can be affordable, but once the town's economy gets going the townspeople should be able to afford them without subsidies.
Or we can just do what normal daimyos do and buy whatever they produce/pay the miners for their labor. We'd just be paying them an amount that is actually somewhat close to what it's worth.
In order for the townspeople to have access to ryo to pay our taxes with we'll have to give them access to Till n Fills that allow trade between the town and Leaf so that they can sell the metals produced by the mine and any other goods they make. At first these Till n Fills will need to be to be heavily subsidized by us so they can be affordable, but once the town's economy gets going the townspeople should be able to afford them without subsidies.
Or we can just do what normal daimyos do and buy whatever they produce/pay the miners for their labor. We'd just be paying them an amount that is actually somewhat close to what it's worth.
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My reading was that Ami could have said that she did it because we're friends, which would have put us permanently at her beck and call the way her childhood friend is. But she decided to instead give us the chance to be treated as an equal, by making it a quantified favor.
We don't have to outwardly acknowledge that we're friends with Ami in order to be friends with Ami. In fact, I think it will decrease our chances of being friends with Ami by making her see us as someone who is not her equal. The best way to become friends with Ami is to not acknowledge it, simply to gradually get closer and closer to her by doing what we've been doing: being mutually useful to each other and learning more about her.
Unrelatedly, I'm pretty sure this is Shikamaru's way of saying "You're political poison again. Please don't come near me or I'll have to deny that I know you again."
Is Shikamaru the absolute most tsundere friend we have? Yes.
Is it a good idea to go near him and force him to act like we're not friends in order to avoid people thinking that the Nara are connected with someone who is totally-not-a-traitor? No.
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Her "childhood friends" aren't childhood friends, but emotionally manipulated people. If a friendly relationship is "give and take", Ami-Minions relationship is a one way street where what they give is decided by Ami, and what they receive is also decided by Ami. Hazou wouldn't define "Ami's friend", just calling her out on a bond that exist "We don't want each other to die"(That implies we are still going to kill her if need to, and viceversa), observing that she's evading such bonds to maintain control, and how such control at the end of the day is a cage.
In short, we're calling her a coward to her face, because she's dealing with emotions by changing those in favors(give and take is fixed and decided by her), instead of dealing with such emotion like a mature person(For fear of control, to better separate from people, to quantify emotions so she can know when her personal Out!Abomination interfere), implicitly saying that we can deal with such emotions in mature way, meaning she cannot control us with those.
TL;DR "Ami grow the fuck up, instead of being a Tsundere." and "If we end killing each other, it happens. Denial for the MASTER PLAN is cowardly.Coward"
Ami doesn't work like that. She doesn't do "friends", because "friends" means not being in control, and that's dangerous because she needs to be always in control. Ami creates relationships already prepared for separation, like she already said many times.
She could, in fact, cut any relationship or just murder us to eliminate the vulnerability in her MASTER PLAN, but i never said my plan was smart or sensible.
Oh Yes, Naruto Hokage nothing wrong wi...
"RASENGAN!"
* SPLAT*
Oh, well, Avenger!Akane Quest?
"I believed in Leaf, Once. Then they took my dearest treasure"
"His Uplift, i'll make it real. On the corpses of the ones that ended his dream"
"Lee, my YOUTH is dead, only Uplift remains. Uplift and hatred"
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On the one hand, I'm very tempted by the possibility of calling Ami a coward and seeing what happens. On the other hand, causing undefined behavior in Ami sounds like the social spec version of causing a sealing failure.
But Hazo doesn't know shit about medicine.
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I might as well try my hand at interpreting Ami's more obscure Ami-isms from the chapter.
Is that similar to anyone else's reading of this?
Inside and outside may mean that not only will and end to her sheming mean the end of her life, even if she survives those schemes are still a crucial part of who she is so would she really still be Ami?
Or it may mean that schemes both inside and outside of Mist/Leaf would catch up to her, alluding to her having schemes in other villages too. That would certainly be interesting.
'You know that' would seem to point to us knowing that information already. Certainly both of these possibilities are things we could guess, just from her being Ami.
'More ambitions. More ideas. More challenge. Motion is control.' seems to be a general description of herself. She needs to keep scheming in order to stay in control, she needs more ideas/ambitions/challenges to keep herself entertained and scheming.
'Stasis is Mori' is a clear play on her clan's name meaning death, but also references how her clan is unwilling to move forward with new ideas and risks both because of their bloodline and because of tradition.
'Ninja life too short. Win and move on.' May mean that she shares one of our goals, to stop humanity from dying out so that she can move on to more interesting things such as world domination. After all, what's the point of dominating a dying world?
'Five villages. Minors. Rest of world. Domination? Transformation? Destruction? Lying about everything? You guess.' seems pretty self explanatory. Hazō doesn't know what her end goal really is, and she's inviting us to guess.
I have no idea what being blind to beauty and ugliness could mean though.
This whole thing feels more like an inkblot test than communication.
According to Google, one of the things Lavenders represent is silence. I would be very amused if this is Ami's way of telling us to shut up.
My reading of this is that Hazō is saying she always manipulates things to make them go her way, then she calls him a hypocrite since we try to do the same thing. Hazō then says that's the plan because we sure aren't going to stop trying to improve things.
Is that similar to anyone else's reading of this?
Ami can't stop moving, meaning that if she stops her endless scheming one of the schemes will catch up to her and she'll die.
Inside and outside may mean that not only will and end to her sheming mean the end of her life, even if she survives those schemes are still a crucial part of who she is so would she really still be Ami?
Or it may mean that schemes both inside and outside of Mist/Leaf would catch up to her, alluding to her having schemes in other villages too. That would certainly be interesting.
'You know that' would seem to point to us knowing that information already. Certainly both of these possibilities are things we could guess, just from her being Ami.
'More ambitions. More ideas. More challenge. Motion is control.' seems to be a general description of herself. She needs to keep scheming in order to stay in control, she needs more ideas/ambitions/challenges to keep herself entertained and scheming.
'Stasis is Mori' is a clear play on her clan's name meaning death, but also references how her clan is unwilling to move forward with new ideas and risks both because of their bloodline and because of tradition.
'Ninja life too short. Win and move on.' May mean that she shares one of our goals, to stop humanity from dying out so that she can move on to more interesting things such as world domination. After all, what's the point of dominating a dying world?
'Five villages. Minors. Rest of world. Domination? Transformation? Destruction? Lying about everything? You guess.' seems pretty self explanatory. Hazō doesn't know what her end goal really is, and she's inviting us to guess.
Which is more interesting, creating things or destroying them? Neither, of course. The most interesting thing is to take what already exists and find new uses for it. In short, munchkinry. And naturally Keiko is even more important to Ami than anything else.
Being numb to love and hate is maladaptive. There's a reason those emotions exist, and being unable to feel them (or worse, recognize them in other people) would make it difficult to function in human society. Which may explain Orochimaru a bit. He can't feel hate/love, he has only pragmatism. But he also can't tell whether other people love or hate him, which makes it difficult to apply any social skill other than intimidation.
I have no idea what being blind to beauty and ugliness could mean though.
This whole thing feels more like an inkblot test than communication.