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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Kiba said:
Hivemind and Character Improvement Initiative: A list of proposals for implementing anti-frustration features and better performance by both hivemind and MC according to a naked mole rat.

Hazo:
* Greater autonomy. Hazo will be able to develop and do things on his own without needing the hivemind help. This benefit us by smoothing over "bumpy" parts of social and political interaction, while the hivemind focus on strategic direction. This required changes to gameplay that may never be implemented.
* Better politician: He should be able to react and understand the political environment better. Solution: Accompany Mari on business.

Hivemind:
* Character analysis incentive: Good analysis let us place into the context of target characters we may need to interact with. To make the hivemind do this consistently, 1 XP is a good idea.
* Character analysis: We need to do them.
* Short, usable, constantly updated checklists. We need to start using them more.
* Early planning: Getting more plans out and early let us focus on improving them instead of panicking.
* More plans: Diversity prevents us from pigeonholing into one plan.
* Veto vote: Use in case of emergency. A veto vote have extra weighted consideration. Can only be used every five updates or so.
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Clarify some thoughts. Added ideas, such as veto vote, which would be helplful in that almost-kill-ourselves debacle, but only to be used rarely.
 
Right, this is a combination of my previous plan (which wasn't implemented AFAIK), and some other things we could do based on new information. Also, @Cariyaga, I really hope this version satisfies your "give Chouza hugs" urge.

[X] Action Plan: Something Old, Something New
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Get the clan's approval first.
  • Everyone: Iwa's actions are weird. They didn't attack immediately, and are uncharacteristically treating civilians well.
    • Is Akatsuki involved? Maybe they obliterated Iwa, and they're trying to ingratiate themselves to Leaf.
    • Are they trying to subvert the population? How effective would that be?
  • Work on improving living conditions. Cut down nearby trees and build cabins, get hay...
    • We've done this before. Rince & repeat from before.
  • Spend our time helping (and comforting) the current leadership (Asuma, Shikamaru, Chouza). Make ourselves indispensible to them.
    • Mari, what can we do to help lighten the burden of their tasks? Especially Asuma/Shikamaru, they must be at the end of their ropes.
    • Chouza's probably beside himself with survivor's guilt; he's one of the few surviving Clan Heads. Hazou still may be compromised, but someone else can surely check up on him.
      • Give OliWhail carte blanche to write this scene.
    • Suggestions for the top brass:
      • Investigate the relief party's story.
        • Send (airborne) scouts to the border, check what forces are amassing.
        • Find their lumber merchant to verify their story.
      • Contact Suna. They might have been hit too.
      • Leverage Ami, either by demonstrating Mist's already helping or by present a strong Leaf-Mist alliance to deter an attack.
      • Instate Asuma as Hokage, demonstrating Leaf's still unified and capable of fighting back.
      • Reveal Orochimaru's survival, as an invasion would pit him against Iwa.
    • Ask Mari to subtly prime the leadership into favoring the jutsupool idea, if reasonable.
  • In our spare time:
    • Hazou, Kagome: Sealing.
      • Hazou: Organize, copy (in IN), and pick out seals that'll be useful in the short-medium term.
      • Kagome: Complete seal research.
    • Noburi: IFF Asuma/Keiko are still teaching, join Neji's Summoning training.
    • Mari: Work with the MC to speed up approval of ONE of our proposals, whichever she thinks is best.
 
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Okay, so in light of the probability of things shifting majorly again I believe we should be conservative with any plans. No making any long-term plays, or anything that incurs significant cost to us. Aka don't try selling access to J's notes. It would be very annoying if we tried and the ones we tried selling them to are killed or co-opted before we get our end of the deal. Stick to keeping the civilians safe, and make slow progress with the rest of Leaf's clans. It's conservative, but we don't know the kind of meteor bearing down on us this time - if we knew it was a literal meteor for example we'd know to grab everything that isn't nailed down and run for it.

faflec said:
  • Send scouts to the border, check what forces are amassing.
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We may wish to suggest using high-altitude scouts over Iwa itself. If it was hit like Leaf it would likely still be visible from cloud level.
 
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Byzantine said:
Okay, so in light of the probability of things shifting majorly again I believe we should be conservative with any plans. No making any long-term plays, or anything that incurs significant cost to us. Aka don't try selling access to J's notes. It would be very annoying if we tried and the ones we tried selling them to are killed or co-opted before we get our end of the deal. Stick to keeping the civilians safe, and make slow progress with the rest of Leaf's clans. It's conservative, but we don't know the kind of meteor bearing down on us this time - if we knew it was a literal meteor for example we'd know to grab everything that isn't nailed down and run for it.



We may wish to suggest using high-altitude scouts over Iwa itself. If it was hit like Leaf it would likely still be visible from cloud level.
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I believe being timid is a good way to get killed. Maybe we shouldn't be making extremely bold moves, but we shouldn't let others take the initative.
 
Kiba said:
I believe being timid is a good way to get killed. Maybe we shouldn't be making extremely bold moves, but we shouldn't let others take the initative.
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What initiative do we have to take right now? We are one (small and new) clan in a drastically weakened village still in crisis recovery mode for the nth time in as many months.
 
Byzantine said:
What initiative do we have to take right now? We are one (small and new) clan in a drastically weakened village still in crisis recovery mode for the nth time in as many months.
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Work with the MC to establish a storage seal bank for one. We can even offer free introductory rent for businesses to try it out. Learn more about Iwa-nin, even have lunch with them. Send Mari to the negotiation and help out the higher ups.

faflec said:
  • In our spare time, try to improve our personal power.
    • Hazou, Kagome: Sealing.
      • Work on Jiraiya's notes, both IN-memorizing them and studying high-impact seals they can learn.
      • Start on that sealing backlog.
    • Noburi: Try to get some Summoning training done, if Asuma/Keiko can spare the time.
    • Mari: Put some pressure on the MC. Not too much; we don't wanna spook people.
    • Akane: <I'll think of something, I promise!>
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Pressure the MC to do what?
 
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Cariyaga said:
I mean, at this point we're not THAT much worse off than any other clan in Leaf....
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THAT much worse? I think we actually gained power, both relatively and absolutely. Helping of civilians made them more loyal to us, which means we have our picks of craftsman and skilled labors for any research and development enterprise we may attempt, such as skysliders.
 
Cariyaga said:
I mean, at this point we're not THAT much worse off than any other clan in Leaf....
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I was referring to the general state of Leaf with my comment rather than our clan. The problem is a crisis is a bad time to be making direct power moves because people will notice and remember. Better to gather soft power during them.

Kiba said:
Work with the MC to establish a storage seal bank for one. We can even offer free introductory rent for businesses to try it out. Learn more about Iwa-nin, even have lunch with them. Send Mari to the negotiation and help out the higher ups.
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Would work for me, though I think the next phase will hit before we can really get off the ground with it, so it might be a waste of time... but still can't see it working against us.
 
Byzantine said:
Would work for me, though I think the next phase will hit before we can really get off the ground with it, so it might be a waste of time... but still can't see it working against us.
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That's absolutely fine with me. I prefer a higher velocity of decision making, especially with low-risk endeavors like the MC. There will be inevitable waste, but this is made up for it that nobody will notice until it's too late.
 
One thing that we should push for is to increase the number of adoption slots available to clans. Will the huge losses the clan population took every clan will need to rebuild. This will also get more ninjas powerful techniques which will be vital for the survival of Konoha
 
Halberdier said:
If Asuma is still teaching Neji, we should get in on that, for efficiency of labor. From a resource allocation viewpoint, Asuma delegating Keiko to teach, and assigning a Dog recipient, so she can teach 3 people summoning at once would help provide a massive jump to Leaf's utility and combat in 3 months. At the cost of Shikamaru's support network. There were whisperings that Kabuto had been trained to summon by Orochimaru, could we get Kabuto to teach?
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This, this is a good idea. We need summoners.
 
Kiba said:
That's absolutely fine with me. I prefer a higher velocity of decision making, especially with low-risk endeavors like the MC. There will be inevitable waste, but this is made up for it that nobody will notice until it's too late.
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Right now I'm more worried about being in a position to pick up everything vital and get the fuck out of dodge, in case whatever the next thing is leaves Leaf a smoldering crater. This means not passing out anything vital we would need to retrieve, etc.

Oh, and before I forget:
[X] Action Plan: Something Old, Something New
 
Cariyaga said:
Err, we did come up with it. More specifically, I did.
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Sure but it wasn't in the plan. Which means simulationally instead of Hazou getting fed subconscious thoughts or however the QMs model us, Hazou came up with it independently. Which is a sign of his intelligence.

Inferno Vulpix said:
he understands that this ideals run contrary to his duties to Team Uplift and that he's willing to approach matters from other people's point of view, which shows significant maturity in my eyes.
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i mean yes i agree with that. but i'm still worried that he's lying to his family.
 
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1234qwerty said:
Noburi: Yeah, that's a thing he does. He had the same problem with Jiraiya back when we were mi- I mean when we weren't openly acknowledged, shining examples of The Will of Fire. Thought we were all in it together when Jiraiya couldn't tell us from a cow pat in a dung heap, biiig no-no revealing a jonin spy when you don't have the credibility to wipe your own ass. Yeah, you have to be honest with your allies, especially about your own flaws, but come on, you have to be smooth -- take it slow. Can't show a lady what's under the chunin vest on the first date, if you know what I mean. I'm with you, clone boy; so J-man thought you were the best thing since fartless lemons, doesn't mean Hazou should go around rushing things and flashing you his unmentionables, you know? And now he thinks he's being clever, using selfish excuses to justify giving our best jutsu out to all ofLeaf just because we can't teach it to you unless you're part of the clan. I don't blame him for trying, but can't get one over on the Nobster unless you get up early in the morning, reeeaal early... and not having banshee'd bananas for brains helps, too.

Naruto: That's it, you're adopting the SHIT out of me!

Don't stop investigating here.
  1. Noburi wears 2 barrels at a time and drains his body's one CP into the second barrel whenever he feels up to drinking 0.5 liters of water. Two barrels doesn't increase his max CP, but it let's him have max while separating the chakra into sources. Do this and in 350 / X days he'll have a barrel full of 100% his own chakra. Make sure he can actually drain himself. If not, needs a second Wakahisa or an Aburame to drain him, then he drains the bugs unless they contaminate the chakra.
  2. Asuma makes a shadow clone(A) with enough CP to make 1 shadow clone(B) of its own, with 1 CP left over(shadow clone A, not Asuma). What happens to the shadow clones? Does Ar need to keep drinking chakra water? B?
  3. Kagome studied Noburi's barrel's seals. Might be able to come up with something 10 years down the line when he finally has some free time.
  4. Why doesn't Mari already know shadow clone?
  5. Unrelated, but Kabuto may be gunning for the Dog scroll.
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Also, we're a clan with lots of resources. Hire a goddamn technique hacker to make a shadow clone Noburi can use.
 
We seriously need a jutsu person for consulting and contract work at the very least.
 
Byzantine said:
We may wish to suggest using high-altitude scouts over Iwa itself. If it was hit like Leaf it would likely still be visible from cloud level.
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Done.
Kiba said:
Pressure the MC to do what?
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Into approving our storage seal proposal. ...and our Force Wall proposal. @eaglejarl Was there a particular reason that wasn't included?

Anyway, clarified.
faflec said:
Right, this is a combination of my previous plan (which wasn't implemented AFAIK), and some other things we could do based on new information. Also, @Cariyaga, I really hope this version satisfies your "give Chouza hugs" urge.

[X] Action Plan: Something Old, Something New
Word Count: 298

Get the clan's approval first.
  • Everyone: Iwa's actions are weird. If they're responsible, why didn't they attack earlier? They're probably gathering intel on our forces, but then why care so much about civilians?
    • Is Akatsuki involved? Maybe they obliterated Iwa, and they're trying to ingratiate themselves to Leaf.
    • Are they trying to subvert the population? How effective would that be?
  • Spend most of our time helping (and comforting) the current leadership (Asuma, Shikamaru, Chouza). Make ourselves indispensible to them.
    • Mari, what can we do to help lighten the burden of their tasks? Especially Asuma/Shikamaru, they must be at the end of their ropes.
    • Chouza's probably beside himself with survivor's guilt; he's one of the few surviving Clan Heads. Hazou still may be compromised, but someone else can surely check up on him.
    • Possible suggestions for the top brass to implement:
      • Investigate the relief party's story.
        • Send (airborne) scouts to the border, check what forces are amassing.
        • Verify their story. Where's the lumber merchant they were escorting?
      • Contact Suna. They might have been hit too.
      • Use Skywalkers en masse as a show of strength.
      • Leverage Ami, either by demonstrating Mist's already helping or by present a strong Leaf-Mist alliance to deter an attack.
      • Instate Asuma as Hokage, demonstrating Leaf's still unified and capable of fighting back.
      • Reveal Orochimaru's survival, as an invasion would pit him against Iwa.
  • In our spare time, try to improve our personal power.
    • Hazou, Kagome: Sealing.
      • Work on Jiraiya's notes, both IN-memorizing them and studying high-impact seals they can learn.
      • Start on that sealing backlog.
    • Noburi: Try to get some Summoning training done, if Asuma/Keiko can spare the time.
    • Mari: Pressure the MC to approve our proposals. Not too much; we don't wanna overplay our hand.
    • Akane: <I'll think of something, I promise!>
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