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Spirits: You will acknowledge us as your ancestors and thus you will be required to perform rituals for the honor of your ancestors.
Goketsu: But we are not of blood?
Spirits: You are now!
 
Given that Hazou was looking at Leaf land laws: If one owns a plot of land, do they own all the land underneath it? i.e. do we own all the land underground beneath the tavern we bought?
There was no mention of this in anything that Hazō read. Presumably the issue had never come up. His best guess is that using the space under a civilian property would be no problem, but using space under a ninja would cause problems because it would be assumed that you were spying.
 
It's a shitty plan, but I have to start somewhere.

[X] Action Plan: Contracts and Contacts
Word Count: 191
  • First Priority: Buy an estate.
    • Mari, can you put pressure on the Tower to get a refund/compensation?
    • Jiraiya'd pinged the Shimura/Hyuga-neighbour estates as alternatives. Are they still available, and how much would they cost? See if we have enough funds to buy it on mortgage, or how much more we'd need to do so.
  • Go talk to Kabuto, get the results of the Noburi study. We really need to get conformation that he can use SC/Summoning.
  • Set up the Forbidden Lore meeting.
    • What's the status on OPSEC seals like Jiraiya's? Do we have enough anti-Byakugan seals?
    • Do we have a secure location in the village? Should we take a till-n-fill?
    • Let's include Naruto - he has good clearance and can help us out.
  • Look over the spy notes Jiraiya left us, then try to make contact with these people.
    • Focus especially on people in Fire, and especially in/near Konoha.
    • He had blackmail on some people, who are they and how could they be useful to us?
    • Hey Naruto, do you know some people we could work with?
  • In our spare time, make and sell seals to the Tower.

Are you going to try to improve this action plan?
 
[Χ]Action Plan: I See Dead People

Debrief the rest of the clan + Naruto at his place on the scroll thing as per Keiko's instructions.


Early the next morning:
  • Ask Mother Nana (or Noburi) for some of her finest (and hopefully safest) hallucinogens.
  • Go meditate in the training ground where you had that weird sealing failure before-- the one with the whale. Try to get the exact spot correct.
    • Naruto, Noburi, and Mari are on overwatch. Genjutsu and restrain us if things become problematic.
  • Attempt to contact the other Paths for spiritual guidance. Remember: reality is probably still very thin around you.
    • Prep:
      • Attempt to widen the dimensional apertures via continuous sealing/unsealing of a few dozen storage scrolls .
      • Arrange an array of party trick seals around you in the most eldritch fashion possible.
      • Play the spooky flute music in between renditions of a new piece entitled "Zabuza cannot find a needle in a sewing kit, especially now that he's dead!"
      • Pay some Genin to stand around and do the Dance of Please Let The Walls of Reality Crumble (invert the motions of the Dance of Pray Reality Does Not Break Down ).
      • Drench the ground with leftover (from the Basement) chicken blood so that it smells like death.
      • Focus overwhelmingly on the feeling of hunting demons that was Z's killing intent, maybe send some psychic messages back "Here I am, come on and get me!"
    • When it works:
      • "Haha! Who is the idiot now ghosts!?"
 
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It's a shitty plan, but I have to start somewhere.

[X] Action Plan: Contracts and Contacts
Word Count: 191
  • First Priority: Buy an estate.
    • Mari, can you put pressure on the Tower to get a refund/compensation?
    • Jiraiya'd pinged the Shimura/Hyuga-neighbour estates as alternatives. Are they still available, and how much would they cost? See if we have enough funds to buy it on mortgage, or how much more we'd need to do so.
  • Go talk to Kabuto, get the results of the Noburi study. We really need to get conformation that he can use SC/Summoning.
  • Set up the Forbidden Lore meeting.
    • What's the status on OPSEC seals like Jiraiya's? Do we have enough anti-Byakugan seals?
    • Do we have a secure location in the village? Should we take a till-n-fill?
    • Let's include Naruto - he has good clearance and can help us out.
  • Look over the spy notes Jiraiya left us, then try to make contact with these people.
    • Focus especially on people in Fire, and especially in/near Konoha.
    • He had blackmail on some people, who are they and how could they be useful to us?
    • Hey Naruto, do you know some people we could work with?
  • In our spare time, make and sell seals to the Tower.
I like the plan in general but if you have the space we could retroactively ask Keiko about sending that message to the dog clan. No point in not starting that now.
 
There was no mention of this in anything that Hazō read. Presumably the issue had never come up. His best guess is that using the space under a civilian property would be no problem, but using space under a ninja would cause problems because it would be assumed that you were spying.
Cool.

Lets tunnel beneath the tavern and surrounding properties to make a very large system of "beer cellars" that could feasibly hold a couple hundred folk. I'm sure we could Mari everyone in the surrounding properties to sign some ludicrously cheap leasing contract on the grounds of "Mari argues you into doing this thing in exchange for 1000 ryo a month you never would have seen otherwise."

This way if the Shimura thing takes a while to favorably shake out, we have a backup plan for those few hundred folks besides "pray we'll be able to solve it in the future" and thus we can stop worrying about it for the time being.
 
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Ugh, screw LBFs, here's a simplified design:
[x] Action Plan: On Putting the Universe Down
Wordcount: 462 (without the design)
  • Conduct creative training daily.
  • Meet with Hiashi (take Mari; don't do if she's sure it'll fail).
    • Goals: Get the Dog Scroll and the Shimura compound. Optional: A credible commitment to not send us on suicide missions.
    • Methods: Inform that Orochimaru's agreed to be adopted in exchange for becoming Clan Head and learning our clan-secret jutsu and Jiraiya's seals. Say you're planning to go along, since you feel unsafe without the compound and with the war looming — which might prove particularly dangerous to us. Describe how to make you feel safer.
    • If Hiashi suggests that we won't follow through because Orochimaru will...
      • ... vivisect random civilians, whom we care about: recite your ruthless-utilitarianism thought-process.
      • ... vivisect us: claim that Jiraiya made Uncle Oro promise not to harm us, and we're better tools while undamaged anyway.
  • If the Hiashi meeting didn't work out, buy the Shimura compound; ask Naruto for another loan if necessary. Continue pressuring the Tower.
  • Discuss with Kagome and Mari (maximum-security, under Air Domes and anti-Hyuuga seals).
    • We're routinely forced to interact with elite jounin and S-rankers. The Hokage hates us. Even with Mari and Kagome, we don't have enough power to be safe. If Orochimaru decides to kill us, we won't be able to do anything but watch; not even flee.
    • You have a horrible potential solution. Kagome: you're really not going to like it, but it's to protect the team, and we won't do it without your approval.
    • SINs larger than twelve cause sealing failures. You're theorizing that each additional seal after the twelfth will correspond to an additional failure upon activation: first twelve seals fill up all free space, then the remaining seals try to unstore and independently fail.
    • You're suggesting to build a 112-SIN, then make a public announcement informing everyone about our new invention and stating that we'll always carry it on ourselves and will detonate it if we're facing death. You doubt even Orochimaru would be willing to chance 99 simultaneous sealing failures at zero-range. Best-case scenario: it scares Rock off from starting the war.
    • Preliminary design (see below).
      • Prerequisite: A 24-hour timer seal which explodes if it isn't reset. How difficult it'd be to research?
    • Obvious outstanding issues:
      • Accidental activation. Naturally, we're not doing it if the chance of that is greater than one-in-ten-thousand.
      • N-SINs only ever causing one failure. Let's just never check that.
      • Omnicidal maniacs. Hopefully they're rare and incompetent.
      • Foreign-village agents killing us to blow Leaf up. Shouldn't be a concern: 99 simultaneous failures isn't something you want to happen on the same planet as you.
      • Watchers. They don't exist, do they?
    • If the project's approved, start production. Take a short outside-Leaf mission if necessary. Build one real one, and several decoys for every Team Uplift member.

Design:
  • Use black paper for all seals (anti-Byakugan measure).
  • Fill the Implosion Seals with air, put them on top of each other, and roll them up tightly. Put the SIN roll into a compact (6x6x5 cm) but sturdy metal box encased in waterproof leather.
  • Put a 24-hour timer seal on the inner side of the box's lid. Lock it with a locking seal (Kagome had implied he knew them).
    • Unlocking the seal gives access to the insides, allowing to reset the timer, carefully remove the SINs, or conduct maintenance.
    • If the timer isn't reset, the box detonates.
  • Possible improvements:
    • Can anti-Byakugan seals be moved while active? If yes, put a small-radius one inside the device — no need for black paper.
    • Make the process of shaping the chakra to open the locking seal as complicated as possible, difficult to learn in a day (anti-Yamanaka measure).
    • Make the locking seal explode if the box is breached, to prevent reassembly by enemy.
    • Make the locking seal respond only to correct chakra signatures. We already have an example of a chakra-discriminating locking seal.
 
[X] Action Plan: Real Estate Play
  • Priority#1: Acquire housing.
    • Accompany Mari when she negotiates with the Tower for money.
      • Suggest printing broadsheets about Orochimaru's play to gain additional leverage.
    • Possibilities:
      • (first choice) The Shimura estate.
      • Acquire land surrounding our inn.
      • Have KEI ninja scout other potential locations. Avoid those near the Hyuuga.
  • Underground expansions:
    • Lease/buy underground space underneath properties adjacent to the tavern; put Mari on the case.
    • Using Earth jutsu (KEI member or Pangolins), build tunnels and rooms there, connected to our tavern. Employ civilians for subsequent constructions.
  • If we purchase an new estate
    • Patch it up. Prioritize apartments for KEI ninja.
    • Build a new underground network.
    • Ensure it looks as unassailable and intimidating as possible, so Rock ninja avoid it.
  • Talk to Kabuto about Noburi.
  • Conduct daily creative training.
  • Debrief the rest of the clan + Naruto at his place on the scroll thing as per Keiko's suggestion. Hazo got a crazy idea:
    • Ask Mother Nana (or Noburi) for some of her finest (and safest) hallucinogens.
    • Meditate in the training ground where you had the whale sealing failure. Try to sit at the exact spot.
      • Overwatch: Naruto, Noburi, and Mari. Employ genjutsu and restraints if it becomes necessary.
    • Attempt to contact other Paths for spiritual guidance. Reality's probably still very thin around you.
      • Preparations:
        • Attempt to widen dimensional apertures via continuous sealing/unsealing of a few dozen storage scrolls .
          • Give offerings and pray to the ancestors.
          • Focus on trying to contact someone(Jiraiya, Hazo's dad, a Buddha, or Sage)
 
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I think at this point we pack our bags "to move" and find a nice quiet plot of land in Vegetable to slowly transfer all of our people to.

ZABUZA: Heeeeeeeeeey, it's me: Zabuza!

HAZOU: Oh sage no. How are you alive?!

ZABUZA: The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Or more likely falsified considering who your source was. Now get out of my house.

HAZOU: What. You are a Mist ninja! Just like u-- just like other ninja that are from Mist.

ZABUZA: That might be so but this is my summer house and you are squatting here illegally.

HAZOU: This is getting ridiculous. Does no one stay dead anymore?

ZABUZA: Hurry up or Zabby will get Stabby.
 
ZABUZA: Heeeeeeeeeey, it's me: Zabuza!

HAZOU: Oh sage no. How are you alive?!

ZABUZA: The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Or more likely falsified considering who your source was. Now get out of my house.

HAZOU: What. You are a Mist ninja! Just like u-- just like other ninja that are from Mist.

ZABUZA: That might be so but this is my summer house and you are squatting here illegally.

HAZOU: This is getting ridiculous. Does no one stay dead anymore?

ZABUZA: Hurry up or Zabby will get Stabby.
VIHH: go buy jiraiya's pad he'll be back within a week huehuehue
 
VIHH: go buy jiraiya's pad he'll be back within a week huehuehue
ZABUZA: Heeeeeeeeeey, it's me: Zabuza!

HAZOU: Oh sage no. How are you alive?!

ZABUZA: The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Or more likely falsified considering who your source was. Now get out of my house.

HAZOU: What. You are a Mist ninja! Just like u-- just like other ninja that are from Mist.

ZABUZA: That might be so but this is my summer house and you are squatting here illegally.

HAZOU: This is getting ridiculous. Does no one stay dead anymore?

ZABUZA: Hurry up or Zabby will get Stabby.

Well, we're currently staying at Naruto's, which was apparently previously owned by Kushina and Minato.

Might have to fight the Shinigami on those ones though.

#JailbreakMinato2020

[X] Action Plan: Real Estate Play
[X] Action Plan: Real Estate Play

I precommit to vote for plans which include reasonable implementations of the expansive tavern cellar idea, consider this to be in the same vein as "I will precommit to vote for anything involving baking OPSEC cookies."
 
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Well, we're currently staying at Naruto's, which was apparently previously owned by Kushina and Minato.

Might have to fight the Shinigami on those ones though.

#JailbreakMinato2020


[X] Action Plan: Real Estate Play

I precommit to vote for plans which include reasonable implementations of the expansive tavern cellar idea, consider this to be in the same vein as "I will precommit to vote for anything involving baking OPSEC cookies."
I think we'd accept getting kicked out for having Naruto's parents around. His dad would probably go "boo" and Rock would run away screaming.
 
I precommit to vote for plans which include reasonable implementations of the expansive tavern cellar idea, consider this to be in the same vein as "I will precommit to vote for anything involving baking OPSEC cookies."
Done:
[x] Action Plan: On Putting the Universe Down
Wordcount: 455 (without the design)
  • Conduct creative training daily.
  • Meet with Hiashi (take Mari; don't do if she's sure it'll fail).
    • Goals: Acquire the Dog Scroll and the Shimura compound. Optional: A credible commitment to not send us on suicide missions.
    • Methods: Inform Hiashi that Orochimaru's agreed to be adopted in exchange for becoming Clan Head and learning clan-secret jutsu and Jiraiya's seals. Say you're planning to go along, since you feel unsafe without the compound and with the war looming — which might prove particularly dangerous to us. Describe how to make you feel safer.
    • If Hiashi suggests that we won't follow through because Orochimaru will...
      • ... vivisect random civilians, whom we care about: recite your ruthless-utilitarianism thought-process.
      • ... vivisect us: claim that Jiraiya made Uncle Oro promise not to harm us, and we're better tools while undamaged anyway.
  • If the Hiashi meeting didn't work out, buy the Shimura compound; ask Naruto for another loan if necessary. Continue pressuring the Tower.
  • Lease underground space beneath properties adjacent to our tavern. Employ seals and Earth jutsu to build tunnels and rooms there, connected to our tavern.
    • Get Keiko's help. She still has Panjandrum, right?
  • Discuss with Kagome and Mari (maximum-security, under Air Domes and anti-Hyuuga seals).
    • We're routinely forced to interact with elite jounin and S-rankers, and we're not powerful enough to feel safe. If Orochimaru decides to kill us, we won't be able to do anything.
    • You have a horrible potential solution. Kagome: you're really not going to like it, but it's to protect the team, and we won't do it without your approval.
    • SINs larger than twelve cause sealing failures. Speculation: each additional seal after the twelfth will cause an additional failure. First twelve seals fill up all free space, then the remaining seals try to unstore and independently fail.
    • Horrible idea:
      • Build a 112-SIN. Publicly announce our new invention, stating that we'll always carry it on ourselves and will detonate it if we're facing death.
      • You doubt even Orochimaru would be willing to chance 99 simultaneous sealing failures at zero-range.
      • Best-case scenario: it scares Rock off from starting the war.
    • Preliminary design (see below).
      • Prerequisite: A 24-hour timer seal which explodes if it isn't reset. How difficult it'd be to research?
    • Obvios issues:
      • Accidental activation. Shouldn't do it if the chance of that is greater than one-in-ten-thousand.
      • N-SINs only ever causing one failure. Let's just never check that.
      • Foreign-village agents killing us to blow Leaf up. Shouldn't be a concern: 99 simultaneous failures isn't something you want to happen on the same planet as you.
      • Watchers. They don't exist, do they?
    • If the project's approved, start production. Take a short outside-Leaf mission if necessary.
      • Build one real one, and several decoys for every Team Uplift member.
 
Use black paper for all seals (anti-Byakugan measure).

That shouldn't stop the Byakugan (or Sharigan) from seeing the chakra , so that's likely pointless. Also Hazou can't infuse Implosion seals or can he? Kagome isn't going to infuse a seal he can't see.

Also being a walking sealing failure bomb isn't going to make us look good politically/socially. We are basically threatening everyone around us, that we would rather drag them down with us, while a nice threat, probably a good reason for everyone else to turn on us.

And we need the good image, we aren't S-rank yet. Can we not just talk to Neji like in your last plan?
 
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Hmm. Low voter count. I'll shot-gun some ideas to see if any stick

[x] Pangolin Jutsu
Negotiate with Pangolins to teach Naruto and Orochimaru jutsu. Ask Orochimaru for goodies to use for negotiation. Give Orochimaru Jiraiya's letter. Inquire about their current affairs (the genocide, expansion plans, death counts, etc.)

[x] Ami talk
Bring Keiko and ask Ami if she needs help. Perhaps a message to KEI?

[x] Human Resources
Ask Mari how long she can hold up. If she'll break soon relieve her command to protect the clan and tell her to rest.

[x] Civilian Welfare
Mass donate money to civilians. Use any existing mail systems, merchants, Yakuza, hire missions/KEI, use the spy network, etc.

[x] Peace Talks
Bring our peace ideas to Nara via Keiko. See what he thinks.

[x] Basement Loot
See what we can do with the basement loot before we return it
 
The shimura estate being outside seems like a plus. Easier to come and go, easier to fuck off if leaving Leaf is a very real possibility, and we can just build our own walls anyway. I'm sure Kagome would love it at least.
The Shimura Estate is definitely the best one then. The only downside I can see is that it's easier to disappear us and say that chakra beasts did it, but that's what Kagome level quantities of traps are for. Well, that and hoping that Hiashi doesn't have any spare jonin that he would bother using to disappear us, but an alliance with him would also help quite a lot with making that not worth the effort.


One more factor to consider about the Shimura estate: Hiashi is already using the narrative that we're filthy outsides who are barely allowed in leaf and aren't true leaf Ninja, blah blah blah. Us moving to a compound outside the walls, with some clanless ninja, isn't going to help either the idea that were aren't separate from everyone, or that we might bolt or something.

I mean, I think it's still the best option, and honestly those ideas aren't inaccurate, but optically moving outside the walls can't help our "we want to be the new centre of the village" vibe.
 
One more factor to consider about the Shimura estate: Hiashi is already using the narrative that we're filthy outsides who are barely allowed in leaf and aren't true leaf Ninja, blah blah blah. Us moving to a compound outside the walls, with some clanless ninja, isn't going to help either the idea that were aren't separate from everyone, or that we might bolt or something.

I mean, I think it's still the best option, and honestly those ideas aren't inaccurate, but optically moving outside the walls can't help our "we want to be the new centre of the village" vibe.

It's basically a huge plot of land. Shimura estate? Goketsu estate? You mean the Goketsu district, time to build a city.
 
One more factor to consider about the Shimura estate: Hiashi is already using the narrative that we're filthy outsides who are barely allowed in leaf and aren't true leaf Ninja, blah blah blah. Us moving to a compound outside the walls, with some clanless ninja, isn't going to help either the idea that were aren't separate from everyone, or that we might bolt or something.

I mean, I think it's still the best option, and honestly those ideas aren't inaccurate, but optically moving outside the walls can't help our "we want to be the new centre of the village" vibe.

Counterpoint:

Hidden Rock will take one look at our Doom Fortress and go "Okay, fuck that, thats definitely not a priority target." and go waste troops somewhere else.

Like the Hyuuga compound.
 
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