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They have to show to the Tower that they can make Skywalkers, which... requires that they learn to make them.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
Maybe we could just ask the Tower how much they're willing to buy and how much (if any) we can create for our own use? Seems like basic info that we should have. In fact, @eaglejarl , have we already asked this?
If I were running Konoha, a sealmaster would only be allowed to scribe and/or infuse seals up to his own rating. (A genin-rank sealmaster could only produce genin seals, a chuunin-rank sealmaster could only produce chuunin and below seals, etc.) This would have the ironic implication that Kagome and Hazou, the inventors of the Skywalker seal, would not be allowed to make them.
Hyuga Hiashi might like that rule, come to think of it.
I suppose it's possible that a Skywalker is not inherently a jonin-level seal (that is, it's not that hard to make), but it's just priced like one because of its strategic usefulness.
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They've got a budget each month and will buy up to that budget, first come, first served. I'll need to check in how much that is, but it's substantial.
No one is allowed to have skywalkers for their own use, and doing so is treason.
@Rihaku, @Velorien, @OliWhail, do you recall what the Tower's equipment budget was? I'm gearing up and can't check right now.
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
Ok. How about if we make more than the Tower can buy? Do we have to destroy the remainder, or can we save them to sell to the Tower the next time the budget is there?
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- United States
So that gives a Tower seal budget per year of R120,000,000 or R10,000,000 each month.
At R687 a minute for Skywalkers, that comes out to 14,556 minutes to get the Tower's full monthly seal budget. At 8 hours each day, Hazou and Kagome together can do that in a little more than 15 days.
So, first of every month camp outside the Tower seal buying office and give them 3,640 Skywalker seal elements?
Which, incidentally, only provides a total Skywalker travel time of 227.5 hours. Assuming a standard three-person team, a little less than 76 hours of travel time for the team.
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- Phoenix, AZ
I imagine if we flood the market with skywalker seals, the price the Tower pays for skywalkers will quickly drop, so this is probably only good for one or two months.
Don't forget that the towers need other seals, such as explosives and specialty seal like banshee and force walls.
Why are people talking about fixing Mari? She seems fine.
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- United States
There's no market. They're a military asset. The Tower will hoard the first bajillion to stockpile for war, and will want to use them for military purposes in the short term while they still have a monopoly on flying.
But even if we only get R20,000,000 from Skywalkers - that's pretty good. That'll keep the debt collectors at bay for months.
They hunger for Skywalkers right now, that's why the Tower made them a special category of expensive and created a specific tax for them. They want the sealmasters spending their time learning and producing them, probably until they reach some target number.
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That seems far too low to me, but ultimately we're all guessing (including for the estimated budget) and we need to wait and see in story or get information from QMs
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- The Deep Blue Sea
I'm strongly inclined to say the second
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
Here's a thought--perhaps we could sell them to the Tower on credit? That way the Tower gets immediate use, we're not suspected of criminally keeping them for ourselves, and we have a guarantee of money coming in (if only in a month or two). This would also guarantee that we could sell the maximum possible amount of Skywalkers--that we don't lose some sales to other sealmasters.
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If the tower owned our debt, we could get them to lower interest payment and repeal part of our debt.
Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
I don't understand. If the Tower (or anyone) owes us money, we would like a high interest rate, not a low one.
Rihaku
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There is an estimate you can use on the spreadsheet, but the true number would be variable depending not so much on economics as the tactical/strategic needs of the day. Actually, a more accurate estimate would be based on the 15% Equipment Stipend portion of Clan Benefits with some % of surplus on top to account for mission-specific (as in, the Kage gives X seals to a ninja because they are necessary to fulfilling that specific mission) and non-clan uses.
The Kage has [discretionary fund + budget surplus (as described in the clan usage % PM) + bonds + money printing] to deploy on any line item they want, so they can deploy R250 million (easily) and up to R2 billion (with difficulty) extra in a given year if they need to do the equivalent of buying the Strategic Oil Reserve.
15% of R2.17 billion of Clan Benefits is R325.5 million, so R27 million / month is spent on the Equipment Stipend for clans, if 90% of that is seals then R24.3 million, if we add ~20% for mission-specific and non-clan use then it would be a total Sealing Budget of R29.19 million in an average month, but the Kage can raise this by almost however much they want if they feel like accumulating Seals.
By "owning" our debt, I meant that we have a mortgage with the tower for our estate. With the payment being low as it is, I felt it isn't probably the best use with the money the Tower might owe us for payment of skywalkers.
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I'm going to assume these numbers are going to be ported in to account for the larger value of Skywalkers (R3435 instead of R200)? If so, every month we're making 2.061 million ryo from Kagome making Skywalkers alone, 10% that from tower funds for having the patent, and 90% that as mission/equipment/other funds. That's a lot of money, we can pretty much guarantee making even with a minimum of work.
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Raxner
The most dangerous man in an empty room
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- Israel
Ah. In that case, we could suggest that any Skywalkers that we can supply the Tower above and beyond what they can pay for in cash will be paid for by the cancellation of a corresponding part of the debt. We could pay off our mortgage in seals rather than cash! Or are you saying that this would be imprudent, given a low existing mortgage payment?
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