It's...talking about doing stuff. I don't want a Noburi scene with Kabuto or anything like that. Just like 2 paragraphs of Hazou suggesting to meet with Kabuto and Noburi saying sure.

Like, this is all taking part in the context of the family meeting, ideally.

Does it matter if they literally only happen in the same scene if that portion takes up a scene's worth of spoons though?
 
Some bits like scheduling an appointment for Noburi are very off-screenable, and including them in the plan isn't likely to add another scene or half-scene to the final count. There's the chance that Noburi might have something important to say in response to this idea, but in the more likely situation where that's not the case we don't really need more than it being on the books as a thing that happened.
 
@Noumero Things I would like to see added to your plan, in order of decreasing 'give-a-fuck-about-it':
  • Update the clan on adoption results. Mari should know Akane's said yes, and everyone should know Tenten did not.
  • Ask Noburi if can schedule an appointment with Kabuto to test bloodline interactions with SC.
  • Ask Keiko if her ceremony could be delayed to allow Ami time to arrive (maybe? kinda iffy on this, we might not need the time).
 
Realistically, some of these clan jōnin probably also don't want the hat, but I'm going to ignore that because we can't count on that. There are 3 out of the running that we don't need to concern ourselves with, and we have 2 of the remainder. That means there are at most 13 competitors for the hat, and I doubt someone like Gaku has a prayer. We have a strong guaranteed 6 vote block, since ISC has no candidate of their own and we have Uzumaki, Goketsu, and Senju essentially on lock. We have a lot of money to throw around, as well as other resources like high powered seals. We have the backing of leaf's strongest ninjas, and probably high approval among anbu thatnk's to Jiraiya's stacking it. We have international name recognition due to Jiraiya and the Chunin exams. This is entirely doable; even Kagome is a serious candidate if we put him forward.

You didn't address the issue of Mari's mental fitness for the position, though. She's a mess, and she'd have to be at her best to hold together in a shark tank of politics where she doesn't have the raw power to enforce her will if manipulation fails. Unless Kagome suddenly reveals he's been hiding his powah level something fierce and has the might to make up for his lack of social skill, he's no good either.

So the clan is in an excellent position, but lacks a candidate who can actually handle the job. Boy, I dunno, maybe clan Goketsu should adopt Kurenai and support her in taking the hat! Hah-hah-hah-ha.....

....

Hmmmm.

Hmmmm.
 
Since adoption seems to be our new Universal Problem Solving Technique why don't we adopt Hiashi?

Then he'd be forced to listen to us or risk being grounded.
 
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@OliWhail @eaglejarl @Velorien

Did Mari in fact returned for dinner?
Please don't ask questions about events that haven't taken place yet from a retroactive perspective, at least unless you want a forced timeskip to the evening. It's a good occasion for a simple conditional (if Mari's home for dinner, then do this), though, unless @eaglejarl objects.

But if hazou did that, there would be a multi-update long drama about him not respecting people. It's a madhouse I say!


I Think a big problem is that it seems hazou will stand in place like a vegetable unless each hour of his life is included in a plan. If we could just go on assuming hazou will do usefullish stuff in between plans we wouldn't have to go back in time because we left 10 hours of his life unplanned.
(Now I'm just thinking of hazou acting like the pc in a Bethesda game)
INO: " okay, it's a date, see you on 10 tomorrow! "
Hazou: "Yeah!" *goes glassy eyed and stands perfectly still in front of ino's house for the next 18 hours*
Hazou: "hey ino! Are you ready for the date?"
On the contrary, there's a lot of stuff that can only happen during downtime. How does Hazō know anything about Leaf that hasn't been shown onscreen, for example? How does Hazō maintain his relationships with his family members? Where does he find time to make sure his combat skills don't deteriorate from disuse?

There's also the issue of player agency. Every time Hazō does anything with any impact, there's a risk that it will contradict what the players would have done, leading to frustration for them and thence for the QMs. That's something we have to bear in mind when considering the implications of his own agency as a character.
 
Pangolins, prob.

something something we're all gonna dieeeeee

It might also be related to the upcoming marriage, that did just get decided after all. In fact...what if she wants someone to practice touch with, so that she can deal with it when she's expected to during the ceremony and marriage? Tenten would absolutely be the only person she would be OK practicing that with. Particularly if ninja marriages have the whole kiss the bride thing.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Out of curiosity, when did the update end?
I deliberately gave it a certain amount of flexibility so there would be room for at least some of your other retroactive stuff I didn't get to write. The Akane scene takes place shortly after the meeting with Tsunade. The Tenten scene takes place in the late afternoon/early evening. You know the drill as far as messing with the timeline goes.
 
I deliberately gave it a certain amount of flexibility so there would be room for at least some of your other retroactive stuff I didn't get to write. The Akane scene takes place shortly after the meeting with Tsunade. The Tenten scene takes place in the late afternoon/early evening. You know the drill as far as messing with the timeline goes.
Oh dear.
 
Reviewing plans takes energy. I try to do it when I think of it, but usually don't think of it. Your chances are better if you actually remind us.


I have no problem, at least for the next in-game week or so, with simply agreeing that no update will involve a timeskip of more than a couple hours. That's going to slow plot progression to a crawl, but it feels like that's what the players are looking for right now -- the ability to squeeze in absolutely as much stuff as possible because the world is fire and it's okay if that slows things down.

Does that work for people?

EDIT: Note that this is only me. You need to convince @Velorien separately.


Typically that's what happens, except we do allow voting so that plans can be revised based on new information.


I would prefer to avoid retroactive plans as much as possible. They render things confusing for Story Only readers and they require extra effort unless they are completely self-contained (eg a tournament fight).


Seems like the easiest solution would be if XP calculated was based on the parts of the plan actually used in the update onscreen and offscreen, would that work?
 
Descriptions of Keiko's and Zabuza's jounin auras were so fascinating. I've always wanted to see what Tsunade's feels like, and now we know we'll survive the attempt.
We see some of it from Mari's POV quite a while ago:
"Are you Inoue Mari?"

"Gōketsu Mari, yes. How can I—"

The weight of a mountain came down on her.

Ancient. Implacable. Too vast for the human mind to wrap around its full size. And in the depths she had been cast into, writhing horrors that the sunlit world had never seen, too old to have names and too primordial to know death. They perceived her, and in their sight she was nothing but layers of flesh and bone, to be flayed, examined, catalogued and devoured at their leisure for no better reason than because they were bored.
The last of the Senju is The Weight Of The World Uncaring.
 
We see some of it from Mari's POV quite a while ago:

The last of the Senju is The Weight Of The World Uncaring.
I love that title.

With regard to the cunning Ami plan, there is one thing worth bearing in mind that Hazō will certainly know.

Under ordinary circumstances, inter-village communication doesn't exist below Kage level. Each village is a closed-off city-state eternally paranoid about its secrets making their way to their enemies (this is the main reason hunter-nin exist). Merchants are thoroughly searched at entry and exit for the same reason. The Chūnin Exam is a rare exception, where couriers are allowed so that Kage can communicate with their home villages. No one knows whether the inter-village alliance will change this, and how.
 
I love that title.

With regard to the cunning Ami plan, there is one thing worth bearing in mind that Hazō will certainly know.

Under ordinary circumstances, inter-village communication doesn't exist below Kage level. Each village is a closed-off city-state eternally paranoid about its secrets making their way to their enemies (this is the main reason hunter-nin exist). Merchants are thoroughly searched at entry and exit for the same reason. The Chūnin Exam is a rare exception, where couriers are allowed so that Kage can communicate with their home villages. No one knows whether the inter-village alliance will change this, and how.

Derp, one more shitty thing to fix.
 
Counterpoint, we are in a culture that just says 'ninja' when you ask why they defected in a prisoners dilemma.

Like, our valorization of lying and murder is an enormous problem that real world reformers never had to deal with. Day 2 of 'Kagome reforms teaching' someone poisons his candy to send us a message.
 
Jiraiya gave us messages to deliver to Suna proper, does this fall under Kage level because the message was from the Godaime Hokage?
A Hokage is allowed to send messages to whomever he likes, so if you're functioning as the Hokage's courier, you have latitude. Of course, someone else could just as easily argue that Leaf already has trusted couriers who happen to know the route.
 
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