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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Nachtigall said:
Well, if someone attacks me and presses his hand against me, I'd definitely try to move, including deliberately flinching away. That voluntarily moves those muscles.
But if it's GM fiat, okay.
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You deliberately flinching away isn't predicated on the size or shape of the enemy hand.

Also, muscle memory requires you to be paying at least minimal attention to what you're doing when "recording". Even the greatest martial artist can't replicate some random move they accidentally performed in mid-fight except by going through the motions from scratch to figure out how it happened.

Anderkent said:
@Velorien @eaglejarl Any chance we could get an extension here? I think that given the shortened amount of time for planning, and the fact that we're in a situation that the hivemind didn't expect at all, we might need a bit more time.

In particular I think there's gonna be a lot of questions about stuff that Hazo knows but we don't:

1. How many people were there in the end? We got a preliminary guess of ~150 contestants and ~100 civs before, but Hazo should have seen enough during the first hours of the event to have an approx count
2. How many non-disguised proctors in the area? I think the hivemind previously assumed that the entire mansion will be observed by proctors continuously; this doesn't seem to have been the case given the ambush on Hazo in a break room. Lucky that we didn't get disqualified for breaking a henge there.
3. Approx how many people were present in the maze at a time when we were observing it?
4. Was Yamazaka and Mirai the only people we've seen get disqualified? That seems like a low count given how agressive people seem to have been to us (the henge-breaking backpat, straight up assault in a break room, etc)
5. How good were people at using the break rooms covertly? I think purely by watching break rooms we should have gotten way more ninjas identified than just 10.
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Extensions are at the discretion of the update writer (so in this case @eaglejarl), but I can answer numbers 4 and 5 now.

4. You witnessed others being disqualified, but you didn't necessarily identify them (or, in some cases, get a clear look at them). Incidentally, Hazō reckons that Mirai is either a civilian or a really great actress (in which case she should have been too smart to get disqualified).
5. You're pretty sure civilians are allowed to use the break rooms as well, as your typical civilian is going to struggle to stay alert throughout a 24-hour party that starts at sunset. For this reason, nobody bothers watching break rooms unless they have some further objective or spying ability.

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Cariyaga said:
I'm not sure about this one. It strikes me as the kind of thing that PTSD-stricken people would object to.
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I don't think they can deliberately replicate involuntary or unconscious muscle movements.
 
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MadScientist said:
Well if this event wasn't an unmitigated catastrofuck before Hazou decided he needed a distraction, it sure as hell will be now.
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Clearly the correct course of action is to weaken the mansion's foundations via tunnelling, and then drop a MEW on it. This would let us positively id everyone, as all the ninja will run out, and civilians will be distracted by dying.
 
Vecht said:
Clearly the correct course of action is to weaken the mansion's foundations via tunnelling, and then drop a MEW on it. This would let us positively id everyone, as all the ninja will run out, and civilians will be distracted by dying.
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Don't be absurd, we aren't going to pull a Hot Springs Incident again, everyone'll know it was us.

No, what we should do is summon Radvic and get a transfinite bomb going.
 
Vecht said:
Clearly the correct course of action is to weaken the mansion's foundations via tunnelling, and then drop a MEW on it. This would let us positively id everyone, as all the ninja will run out, and civilians will be distracted by dying.
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I'm not sure this would work. The MEW would collapse the floor under you and send you falling long before you made enough to endanger the mansion. You'd have to use skywalkers, and that seems like a terrible idea for this otherwise entirely rational plan.
 
faflec said:
"We were just thinking of heading off to the garden to play a game of 'Guess the ninja'. Free booze for the winner. Fancy joining us?"

"Let me get back to you," Hazō said. "I think I want to mingle a bit more before I do anything else."

"You got it, old friend," Shiba chuckled. "Just remember—those who don't play can't win."

Join our clique or your identity goes on sale. Great.
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(rephrased because quoting a quote-only post doesnt work)

The way I read it, they invite us to go to the garden; we say we'll get back to them. We then go take a rest, don't get back to them for N hours, get knocked out, spend anouther Y hours away. At this point it's clear our 'get back to you' is just dismissive, and they sell our identity?

Maybe I have my timing wrong.

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them trading us off (likely because they saw us talk to obviously-Keiko) would also exlpain how someone identified us for the gank
 
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