It is funny if we were trying to make money for ourselves we have loads of ways. Trying to make money for the client is tricker. Unless he is willing to just let us give him a hundred storage seals to sell.
 
We could scam some teams? They are all trying to make money so they might fall for some scams that need a greedy target.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail If a proctor is "killed" do they still get the money they accumulated up to that point? Because the logical way (for a Mist-aligned ninja who hates Team Goketsu) to DQ the team while still making money is to wait until the last day and be stupidly suicidal right before the Event's end.

Edit: Also, wait. How are the proctors supposed to stay in Henge for 5 days? Isn't that supposed to be bad for your brain and whatnot?

Edit2: And doesn't Henge require constant concentration? How are they supposed to maintain it while sleeping?
 
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I feel like the rules for this event and especially the 'No questions' are the QM's attempt at stopping us from rules lawyering the hell out of this event and to stop from having to write up a list of rules 10 miles long.
 
  • You made reservations for yourselves + 1 at two different boarding houses (one middle-class, one high-class) in widely separated parts of Mist. Keiko suggests that, if the client can be persuaded, you (by which she means anyone other than Hazō) roll a die to decide which one you actually stay at. Given the rules about the client covering expenses it may turn out that this money was wasted but it was a sensible thing to do given the information you had at the time.

I don't know how Mist runs things, but I would have figured that making a reservation doesn't require you to pay in advance or is at most at small deposit. If you make a reservation and don't show up, then oh well. It doesn't mean you're paying for multiple rooms.
 
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail If a proctor is "killed" do they still get th money they accumulated up to that point? Because the logical way (for a Mist-aligned ninja who hates Team Goketsu) to DQ the team while still making money is to wait until the last day and be stupidly suicidal right before the Event's end.
You don't know, but Keiko guesses that they will not get to keep the money if killed. It provides a better simulation that way. You could always ask, though.
I feel like the rules for this event and especially the 'No questions' are the QM's attempt at stopping us from rules lawyering the hell out of this event and to stop from having to write up a list of rules 10 miles long.
Actually, the "no questions" thing wrote itself. It wasn't something we discussed, but when it appeared on the page I thought to myself "ooh, that's going to save us a lot of work." Fortunately, it makes sense in-universe too.
 
Actually, the "no questions" thing wrote itself. It wasn't something we discussed, but when it appeared on the page I thought to myself "ooh, that's going to save us a lot of work." Fortunately, it makes sense in-universe too.
It's always a neat feeling when what's convenient and what makes sense align. :p
 
"I was thinking maybe we link up with one of the other teams," Hazō said. "With six people available we can keep four back to cover the two clients while we send two of us out hunting other teams. Assassinating someone's client would probably wipe out whatever gains they made in the first event and leave them in the hole. Gives us a real leg up."

"The plan is predicated on the clients being willing to stick together," Keiko pointed out. "I find this unlikely. It would make it too difficult for them to make deals, unless they were willing to split profits, which they will not be."

It isn't exactly predicated on that. The idea would be that each client is guarded by two people (in separate locations as you note), but the benefit is that the "attack squad" is composed of multiple people. Teaming up provides no defensive benefits, but considerable offensive benefits because the more people that are on the attack, there harder it is to defend. In theory if you had all five of the named Leaf teams working together, they could form a nearly unstoppable five person team roaming Mist village and ganking any bandana-wearing merchant they see.

What you would do is prearrange a place and time for them to meet for "the Hunting" and a duration during which "the Hunting" will occur. As the time for "the Hunting" approaches, each team has one of their members excuse themselves from the client and leave the other two members on-guard. They all converge at the prearranged meet and go on a sweeping offensive for an hour or whatever, then everybody goes back home.

She shook her head. "I doubt it. The Mizukage would need to supply the money for that or risk damaging the economy, or at least angering the merchants. Although the merchants lack direct power it is still inefficient to have them angry. Supplying the money would greatly increase the cost of the Exams and it would either render the scoring of the event pointless—if the amounts were all the same—or it would be too open to accusations of favoritism if the amounts were variable. Much more likely is that the clients will actually be negotiating for real."

I still don't really get how this is going to work, though. If they're negotiating "for real" then presumably there are goods they will actually have to provide in return for the money, which again have to be provided by the Village. That increases the cost of the Event as well. Whether it's money directly or goods, someone has to supply the stuff.

"Yeah, good point," Yamanaka said, nodding in a fashion that was so serious it was sarcastic. "Boy, I sure wouldn't want to be a team that everyone in Mist had reason to hate. That would suck."

Shikamaru rolled his eyes. "Ino."

"Aww, come on, Shika. You can't even let me wind them up for a second?"

"Ino."

Aw, that was actually pretty nice of Shikamaru, sparing us some of Ino's bullshit. I guess he really does like the team.

  • Before dinner, Hazō made 10 macerators and loaded them with perfume. They are listed on his character sheet which should be released soon.

Though with the revised rules those aren't going to do much good, since perfume isn't going to break a henge... hmm, or will it? Macerators blow air pretty hard and henges are awfully fragile.

@eaglejarl is the "air gun" effect from a macerator enough to break a henge or not?
 
I still don't really get how this is going to work, though. If they're negotiating "for real" then presumably there are goods they will actually have to provide in return for the money, which again have to be provided by the Village. That increases the cost of the Event as well. Whether it's money directly or goods, someone has to supply the stuff.
Maybe they're negotiating for stuff they already would have done, like delivering stuff to the village for the merchant. Like luxury goods and the like. Or maybe it's more simple, they're negotiating how much the merchants will pay in exchange for protection in the village.
 
Maybe they're negotiating for stuff they already would have done, like delivering stuff to the village for the merchant. Like luxury goods and the like. Or maybe it's more simple, they're negotiating how much the merchants will pay in exchange for protection in the village.

No, but they're negotiating in character as merchants so presumably it's for merchant goods rather than ninja services. Yeah, I still don't see how this whole thing works.

Myself I would have had them negotiate for fake money created for purposes of the Event. They could negotiate for goods that don't really exist and get paid in EventBux (tm) that have value only for purposes of the Event. That right there would go a long way to stopping any "passing money from third party" shenanigans, since EventBux would be created and available only by the Exam Organizers. Merchants would be issued supplies of EventBux and told to play along, probably with some minor carrot to make them put some effort into the negotiations and compensate them for the time they had to spend on all of this.

Then you give each proctor a bonus in real money based on how many EventBux they earned. That provides them motivation to try hard on the negotiations.
 
I just realized there is going to be a sudden demand for a bunch of expensive palanquins. In fact people are going to want to buy the most expensive ones they can get to take advantage of the collateral damage rules. Can we buy up all of them beforehand and have our client sell them?

Play the meta game.
This is beautiful.
 
Hmm, given that we have three days without any need to plan, is there anything we should be working on in the meantime?

We could start drawing up detailed execution plans for the event. Protocol in case of attack including mechanical considerations like blocks, precautions for different situations we'll find ourselves in with the client, how to secure our lodgings; most teams will hit the ground running without any preparation, so the best time for hunting is the first day, though it's hard to plan for this without knowing what the other Leaf teams want to do.

Alternatively, we could think about some near-future problems that we haven't yet reached a consensus on, like clan diplomacy or Hazou's Deceit-based disinformation campaign to oversell his sealing skill. The latter sounds really fun and we had some good ideas for it, but never really brought them together into a coherent strategy,
 
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INO: Why Hazou, if you want me to control you, you don't need to dress it up as science...

Damnit Maddie, stop feeding @Dictator4Hire

FINALLY the seeds of the most perfect pairing are taking root.

Don't try to resist, just let it happen and you'll be far happier in the end. :D

That's an interesting metaphor. I wonder what the MfD food chain would look like. The qms would be the sun, providing the energy from which all other organisms subsist(except some weird volcanic vent bacteria, which in this metaphor might consume AU omake?). @faflec's screams would be somewhere close to the sun on the food chain, fueling hivemind paranoia, something like algae or zooplankton. @Radvic is also close to the base, the implications of his physics ideas propagating up to higher levels, maybe something with an essential amino acid that other organisms can't produce themselves. @Cariyaga is probably symbiotic with a ton of stuff. And then you get to the apex predators like @Dictator4Hire feeding on @MadScientist's bait. It tickles me that @OliWhail doesn't end up being a whale in this metaphor. Forgive any mischaracterizations.

Any allegory that casts me as an apex predator gets my seal of approval. I'd like not to fall into some sort of trap by taking bait, but eh, close enough.

Oh hey, look, a new chapter.

It's been awhile since I've done a chapter reaction...

Meh, fuck it.

HERE

WE

GO

"Some teams might be willing to accept a small amount of collateral damage in the interest of eliminating us from the event," Keiko noted. "The lowest-scoring teams might even choose to sacrifice their own chances in the Exam in order to eliminate high-scoring teams from other villages, thereby enhancing the chances of the other ninja from their own village."

If this isn't a blatant hint from the QM's to cover our asses, I don't know what is.

"Of course," Hazō said, nodding. "Having a lot of money on hand sounds like a good plan regardless.

It warms the cold cockles of my heart to see Hazou taking money making seriously.

It may be a bit of a stretch, but if we could get a portion of our proctor's profits I'd be quite pleased.

Keiko nodded. "Indeed. Giving the money to a merchant to pass on to our client might be a breach of the rules, so we should avoid that. We can, however, use the money to gather information and locate opportunities which we then steer the client to. Ideally ones that would appeal to other clients in the event, thereby cutting them out of particularly lucrative deals."

Or we could go for gold by making our merchant the sole supplier of whatever his product is. We don't have to destroy the opposing merchandise either; we can simply devalue it. For example, if our client sells food of some kind we can throw some stink bombs at other merchants' supplies to make potential buyers prefer our clients' wares. Another option would be to subsidize items or services that complement whatever it is our client will be selling. If he is a furniture salesman we could offer to transport his merchandise for his clients free of charge as a limited time offer. We could go full Billy Mays on Mist's unsuspecting populace with a buy one, get this other item(s) made by ninja, FREE!

Advertising is worthwhile consideration to take into account too, but without more information about what it is our 'client' will be selling it's hard to make actionable plans.

I'm certainly looking forward to it though. I personally enjoy chakra-punking our way to wealth and riches.

Moar plz.

"I hit Kiba with a genjutsu in the bath," Sakura said. "Made him think I was Shino."

"What?! No you didn't!"

She gave him a pitying look. "'What are your thoughts on the event, Kiba? For my own part, I have yet to come up with satisfactory tactics on how to optimize our chances for success.'"

Kiba's mouth was sagging open. "You raging bitch."

Dayum Pinkie, when did you become so... ruthless?

Have you been hanging out with our resident Bird Duke's omake bodyguard?

The pink-haired girl shrugged and leaned over to serve herself some dango from one of the communal take-out boxes. "Ninja. Saw you guys chatting up that proctor while Hinata hung back with her eyes going, figured she was reading something off the proctor, decided to take a chance." She glanced up at Kiba, offering him a mocking grin. "You shouldn't have left Akamaru back in your room to guard your stuff. He's obviously the brains of the pair. As well as the bigger boy." She wiggled her little finger at him; Kiba's shock transformed into horror, than anger. He started to leap up but Aburame caught his shoulder and pressed him back down.

Tsk, Tsk, bitch-in-training. Now this is taking it a bit too far (and that's coming from me). She enjoys antagonizing Kiba far too much for her own good.

I'm kinda looking forward to the inevitable comeuppance once she pisses someone off who isn't constrained by social mores from giving her her just desserts.

"Be calm, Kiba," the bug user said. "She is trying to rile you. Why? Because it allows her to score social points."

SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE FATE POINT SYSTEM AND SHE IS A RAGING BITCH?!?!

AND SHINO KNOWS ABOUT THE SYSTEM TOO?!?!

At this point the characters might as well talk to us players directly to save us all some time. :p

"I assume this is why you intercepted me in the hall—to provide a distraction while Sakura interrogated Kiba? I congratulate you. Your queries about my allies' intelligence-gathering capabilities and offer to share information made an excellent cover."

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd let's not draw anyone's attention to the notion that the ongoing effort to share information could be used as a way to get a leg up on the inevitable competition.

Civility must be so hard to maintain among ninja...

Shrug. "Ninja. Yamanaka, even. Anyway, it's being left up to the individual proctors whether they communicate this to their team or not, but the 'clients' have a major incentive not to screw around: they get to keep the money."

Not just super powers; super, super powers.

I wonder if our proctor would be amicable to having us making them absolute fuck tons of money, even if it means mostly ignoring their given 'profession'. Establishing a new industry, while daunting, would benefit Mist tremendously and would dramatically improve relations between them and Leaf. We really should ask our new dad if we should go through with something that drastic since it directly affects his plans for foreign policy, but the opportunity is here now. Such an industry shouldn't be too revolutionary since we don't want to empower Mist without first allying with them, but it could be an overall minor improvement (on a nationwide scale) to an existing industry. Something like more efficient fish processing or streamlined production of lumber for ship building. Something to think about anyway.

Gah, I really, really need more details before I get too far ahead of myself.

The remainder of this plan will be handled by the inimitable @Velorien. He will take care of awarding XP and/or FP. There will be no voting until after his update.

Woah the winning plan still isn't finished yet? We really need to start making smaller, more focused plans. I know I've already said this before, but when we've had multiple updates and the QM's are still working their way through one plan, it's worth repeating.
 
Woah the winning plan still isn't finished yet? We really need to start making smaller, more focused plans. I know I've already said this before, but when we've had multiple updates and the QM's are still working their way through one plan, it's worth repeating.
It's like, we could do that, but then it's in our interests to get as much done in as little both QM-time and real-time and in-game time as possible, for which information density and clarity of intentions is important.

e: Which isn't to say I'm saying "no we shouldn't", but the QMs didn't complain about this plan, so I figure it's alright.

e2: ...Unless Velorien's comment was a britishism, anyway.
 
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