Ugh, I've had that feeling since this mission began. I am so terrified of fighting a sealmaster.
I mean... we could always go for getting involved in clan politics instead. Talk to the Murano and Irie about what's going down and all. But that'll probably make the players want to off themselves after VHitM :p

e: Ugh, it sucks that Mari's worse at deception than Emiya is. If it weren't for that we could maybe see about finding some criminal, non-ninja grifter in town and throwing them at Arikada and seeing if we could generate a casus belli for our having shit to stir with her.
 
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I mean... we could always go for getting involved in clan politics instead. Talk to the Murano and Irie about what's going down and all. But that'll probably make the players want to off themselves after VHitM :p

We are not yet certain that those two clans aren't the ones hiring Arikada. This would be a hell of a lot easier if we knew, but we can't fully trust any of them.
 
Potentially also leaving the signature rainbow before incidents if we can too for Deception purposes. Either genjutsu or actual rainbows, say for example before we go after Arikada.

If we pull it off enough times, we can effectively throw a rainbow up and everyone will panic that we're about to do something (while we're secretly escaping).

Bonus points if we do it before high security break-ins etc. - they discover it days later and realize the rainbow had been up etc.
 
I'm torn on whether everybody should get high awareness. It's a very important skill, but maybe we start by raising it disproportionately for one team member first and reevaluate later based on how it works out?

It's essential against Stealth, Trap and Genjutsu specialists. My current builds cut it at 18 for Nobby, 20 for Akane, and 21 for Keiko and Hazou; this way both pairs have one high Awareness score. I'm also assuming that we can get more dice for it through Sealing.

I'd also like to wait on raising stealth higher than around 15(depending on efficient attributes) and Transformation 20 until we have technique hacking. The basic 3 are some of the most refined techniques out there, but they're primarily designed so anybody can learn them. I'd like to see what else we can come up with before committing huge amounts of xp. In the meantime, we can purposely avoid situations that require stealth.

Getting TH for someone and getting use out of it will take a lot of time and I don't really see how we could just not do Stealth during that time.

I have a hard time fitting high TH anywhere in the current builds. Only Hazou's build has high Int as is (Hazou 20, Keiko 7, Nobby 5, Akane 2), and the only sensible way we could introduce TH to it would be to drop his Deception. If we do that though, he is no longer a Deception specialist and will get outdone in the field by people like Takahashi elder and mayor Emiya. You know, the sort of people we will keep running into.

The thing about social skills and Stealth is that in my mind if you are not doing one you need to be doing the other. To put it differently, if you are not interacting with people you should be evading them; otherwise they will outdo you in social combat and then things will look like what happened with that Irie guy.

If our non-social pair is not versed in Stealth, they will be super limited in the information gathering portions of our missions. With high Stealth they could contribute things like reconnaissance and stalking, or maybe just stay out of the way but close enough to be called in by the social pair if things turn hairy and someone needs to get stabber or something. If they don't have something to do for that time they will just be idling in the forest, and even that might require Stealth depending on the situation on the environment.

To put it other way, the three components of Talk, Fight, Evade model feed into each other. Whatever our main approach is, we can use the other two to supplement it. If we don't have high Stealth we are basically forgoing the Evade leg of the model, and the other two legs will suffer for it.

I'm kinda sad that you were the only one to drop your thoughts on what sort of positions our teammates should take in the future. Don't people like building kick-ass ninja teams or what? :(
 
Was there going to be a project to go back through the archive looking for qm hints?
I was trying to set this up at one point, but not many people seemed into it. Which is, frankly, a little silly, since the QMs have strongly hinted that we missed something.

Stuff from the early chapters that I jotted down includes "something do to with apex predator displacement (spiderbear)? To do with the shelter we saw in the swamp (Jiraiya?)? Did Mari deliberately instill or worsen Kei's problems? (unlikely given later internal monologue)"

I'm kinda sad that you were the only one to drop your thoughts on what sort of positions our teammates should take in the future. Don't people like building kick-ass ninja teams or what?
Part of it is that I pretty much agree with you, and part of it is AAAAH SCHOOL :/
 
Part of it is that I pretty much agree with you, and part of it is AAAAH SCHOOL :/

Okay, let me be honest. I know that it takes time for people to get back and read that post and even more time to formulate a useful response. It has been less than a day since I even put the question forward, so I'm not actually expecting that many responses yet.

Mostly I just wanted to remind people that the question is there and waiting for their opinion.

And maybe also guilt trip people a little bit to get answers faster. :whistle:
 
Well it would be interesting for Akane to specialize in talk but Nobby and Hazou already has a head start. Evading would likely work best for Hazou and Akane. Keiko would probably fit evading over talking. Keiko in charge of negotiations seems odd. So perhaps Nobby and Hazou specialize in talking while Akane and Keiko specialize in evading?
 
Well it would be interesting for Akane to specialize in talk but Nobby and Hazou already has a head start. Evading would likely work best for Hazou and Akane. Keiko would probably fit evading over talking. Keiko in charge of negotiations seems odd. So perhaps Nobby and Hazou specialize in talking while Akane and Keiko specialize in evading?
That's the current plan, broadly - the boys on Team Talky and the girls on Team Stalky, because who needs to fit gender roles
 
Our souls are a tiny bubble of sanity within a universe so alien that our thoughts cannot make the shapes required to describe it, and that to gaze upon the true face of reality is to invite a madness that is both torture and liberation.
Have you been looking at the QM notes again? I'm told that those have ill effect on the psyche.
 
Have you been looking at the QM notes again? I'm told that those have ill effect on the psyche.

"I have learned that our world is a tiny bubble of sanity within a universe so alien that our thoughts cannot make the shapes required to describe it, and that to gaze upon the true face of reality is to invite a madness that is both torture and liberation," Keiko said in an even voice. "But other than that, I'm fine. Thank you for asking."
 
Well yeah, that's what was said in-story. I thought the actual date was preset, and we got a 'range'.
Nope.

Blerg. This update is kicking my butt. Between planning, rolling dice, and talking with @Velorien about how certain things work I'm about 5 hours in to working on it and I've got maybe a thousand words written. Ugh.

There's a reasonable chance that it will be delayed until tomorrow. Not sure yet, but we'll see.
 
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