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Did he ever do that within the anime/manga? Google seems to think it was only during one of the movies.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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It was. Stupid movie ninja bullshit.
Just a silly slip-up in a movie, as far as I'm aware.
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It was entirely within the movie. It's worth noting, however, that the ice ninjutsu used behaved more like earth ninjutsu in how they moved ice, rather than like Haku's bloodline where he can make it ex nihilo/from water, and in principle there shouldn't be any barrier to controlling ice if you can control all other rocks, which is all they did (no thermal shenanigans).
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This has probably been asked somewhere but I forget. Does the Sharingan nullify Roki based on its ability to predict the future, or does the Sharingan predict what we want it to predict (assuming we win the deception test) and Ucihas are even more blindsided when they get a fist in the face?
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It's probably a notable bonus to Deception checks, but the idea of Sharingan users being utterly shocked at being tricked is hilarious and I'm including it in my next omake.
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Remember to add Naruto yelling from the sidelines because he doesn't understand the concept of a feint and so it looks like Sasuke is just getting punched in the face.
Is this my first positive contribution to the thread? I suppose there was that stuff with the Vacum seals.
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Holy fuck that's hilarious. MfD!Naruto would maybe be less... like that, but god is that a funny image.
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Sharingan works by reading muscle movements and from that extrapolating the actions the enemy will take based on that information. I'd imagine Roki wouldn't have an effect because it works on distractions and the like, which Sharingan is immune to*.
*Of course, the Sharingan can't predict what it can't see, and if an Uchiha cannot see Hazou's arm muscles tense up to attack, he can't predict it and must rely on his own natural skill to respond.
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@Jello_Raptor did you just delete a really awesome post on data visualization? Because it was really cool and you should put it back up 
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@Jello_Raptor did you just delete a really awesome post on data visualization? Because it was really cool and you should put it back up
It wasn't finished. I hit the "Post Reply" button by mistake. It'll be back up when I'm done with it.
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On the other hand, Hazou can control his muscles precisely enough to counteract exactly that.
e: God, how did we slip Iron Nerve past the QMs again???? (or Nobby or Keiko's bloodlines, for that matter. God damn.)
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I think @faflec's point was that the Sharingan does something approximating running physics simulations, and if that's true I'm not sure how meaningful it is to say that Hazou moves so as to counter that?
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Make the physics simulation crash.
If the physics simulation calculates for his muscle positions, what prevents him from, up until right when he attacks -- as would be the case for anyone else -- moving as if he were feinting, entirely? I mean, obviously this would require additional practice to pull off. It's not as "easy" a technique as basic Roki is, for sure.
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It still isn't better than the Sharingan or the Byakugan.
Noburi's bloodline is probably the most important one to us.
Iron nerve if I recall correctly was hashed together by the QM's and Rihaku over pm's and the QM's were really excited for Frozen Skein.
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I would argue Keiko's "fix the players' various pants-on-head stupid schemes" bloodline is just as important. TBQH I don't know how the early players managed to slip any of our bloodlines through, let alone why the QMs added the seal-copying component of the Iron Nerve
Read through the first 50 pages or so because god dammed chargen was so long.
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I'm not sure the Sharingan can do seal-shenanigans. It doesn't provide the same kind of muscle memory, I don't think? Not sure actually. Point there.
I think Noburi and Keiko's are probably equally important. Keiko is Oh, on that note, on rereading the Frozen Skein, we should do more to encourage Keiko to contribute to viciously take apart our plans. Its users tend to avoid conflict during plans, but we need her to be brutal with regards to our every failure in planning. We owe ourselves no less, and we haven't taken advantage of her as much as we could. She's a lot more stable (specifically, in her use of Frozen Skein) now than she was in the past, and I think it's reasonable to start asking her opinion on things again like we tended to early on.
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I have! I still don't know why they were okay with them!Read through the first 50 pages or so because god dammed chargen was so long.
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I think they may have goneI have! I still don't know why they were okay with them!
e: Other things to suggest to Keiko: Meditating in a low-Frozen-Skein state. Not going too deep, but just within the grasp of it.
Talking to it, maybe? We need to figure out why Pangolin boss wanted her to avoid using it in the summon realm.
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I have to assume that she does this as training?
Maybe if CERTAIN QMS would fill in the rest of the Pangolin Cultural Exchange Questions *looks sideways at @eaglejarl and @Velorien*
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I suppose that's a point.
@eaglejarl @Velorien Before we make a fool of ourselves asking about the basic training a Mori or Wakahisa goes through, what do we know about that from being near them for a year or so? Our intent isn't to condescend to her, after all, but given she doesn't have anyone to train her in using the Frozen Skein, creatively-minded assistance would hopefully help.
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Just feast your eyes at my sexy new character sheets, everyone. A few tiny glitches still remain from the replacing process, but they're mostly perfect.