NOBURI (week 5): Yesterday, there was an explosion coming from the direction of Leaf that was loud enough to hear over here in northern Iron. Probably just a coincidence.
NOBURI (week 5): Yesterday, there was an explosion coming from the direction of Leaf that was loud enough to hear over here in northern Iron. Probably just a coincidence.
Does Hazou think this the extent of the crossover bonus between Biosealing and Sealing? Primordial Sealing benefits from a crossover bonus to the base level and I am wondering if Biosealing benefits from the same.
I am unsure if Biosealing is more/less related to Sealing than PS is, but given that PS is said to be very different, I would expect that Biosealing is more similar to Sealing than PS is.
If we think it in terms of XP, say for our example Hazou has Sealing 60. PS benefits from a +1/3 bonus so you pay double cost up to 40 and then stop. For a total of 1640 XP invested.
Biosealing you pay for levels 1 to 60, single cost. So a total of 1830 XP. Notice how that's more XP investment for the same effect. So IMO it makes sense to say Biosealing is less related to Sealing than PS is if it lacks a crossover bonus.
If it does have a crossover bonus, I would say that Biosealing is straightforwardly more similar to Sealing than PS is to Sealing.
Do these seals provide mechanical benefit to Mednin rolls for wound healing/triage? Something like +AB/+2AB or +6/+9 seems reasonable for what Noburi describes as a miracle seal. He certainly didn't seem that enthusiastic about Dampeners.
Did Hazou figure out a way to use Roki on quadrupeds? Or was this ultimately not possible?
Separately, did he figure out a way to apply the bonus from Force Claws to the Roki roll?
Hmmmm interesting, no question here, but if Unsummoning shifts chakra around like this I see potential ways to deflect Unsummonings like the Unsummoning Anchor is intended to do.
Now that Hazou has seen that past-red exists and is a stable input for Light Relay, is he willing to reclassify that past-red HOWS as a past-red HOWS and not a sealing failure?
I want to stress it was a very atypical Sealing failure, and from what Hazou has seen, it is completely consistent with the behavior of HOWS that they could emit past-red. In addition, the seal was warm, and fire is warm. So that past-red might be warm is not a great leap by any means.
I think Hazou has shown enough intellectual flexibility by now to make the leap that he mistakenly classified the past-red HOWS as a failure rather than realize it was emitting invisible light.
So would Hazou be willing to infuse a past-red HOWS and try to use it to activate a Light Relay? That seems like the next step here.
What was the final status of the hot tub seals? It looks like we have two conflicting statements in two different chapters. I assume the more recent statement is the correct one - that we could not complete the jacuzzi seals and waterproof them.
Based on that I take it that we did complete the jacuzzi seals, just that they can't be waterproofed and still work. It looks like we also created some bubble seals for the Conclave.
It looks like the original specs for the jacuzzi seals were somewhat underspecified
Most of the votes just look like this, but according to @Shrooms the original intent for the seal was to output the bubbles 1ish cm away from the seal - like a storage seal outputting its contents. That was the purpose of the portable bathtub, it had slots on the outside that would allow the seals to operate as intended.
So, what's the final status of this project? We have some sort of bubble seals, can we stick them on the outside of a bathtub and get a jacuzzi?
They're below the mass limits so all that's left is the total volume, and while they're quite large in area the total volume of the wings should be quite small.
With clever design it seems to me that the wings could be telescoped or folded so as not to exceed volume limitations of the seal, and the hollow tube could be disassembled into a couple sections for storage if necessary.
I wanted to follow up on these. No particular rush on these. Except for the research question for last update. Since I need to do notes for it if no research was done.
For the rest I just wanted to be sure they made it into the QINOA doc.
No old questions for now that I can remember. Although one new one is what do you think of adding stacking TR125, so long as hazou/kagome consider the risk of sealing failure small, to your plan if you make one?
No old questions for now that I can remember. Although one new one is what do you think of adding stacking TR125, so long as hazou/kagome consider the risk of sealing failure small, to your plan if you make one
Is this from hazou not wanting to tie something to the end of a string to extend the range of TR? I'd consider that different. Or did the QMs make a separate more explicit ruling about stacking TR?
Is this from hazou not wanting to tie something to the end of a string to extend the range of TR? I'd consider that different. Or did the QMs make a separate more explicit ruling about stacking TR?
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Kisame takes the Mild mental Consequence "No Sharks?", the Moderate mental Consequence "No Sharks" and the Severe mental Consequence "No Sharks!". Kisame is Taken Out.
i.e. Kisame just fell to his knees in the Bass Pro Shops parking lot.
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@Sir Stompy , if we are making the prep days wishlist, please also add the Viscosity Rune. It has multiple settings from KILL ALL ESSIES to instant AoE knockout, and the effect is invisible. Unless it's raining.
i.e. Kisame just fell to his knees in the Bass Pro Shops parking lot.
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@Sir Stompy , if we are making the prep days wishlist, please also add the Viscosity Rune. It has multiple settings from KILL ALL ESSIES to instant AoE knockout, and the effect is invisible. Unless it's raining.
Do we know if chakra diffuses at different speed depending on the environment? (Eg, in water vs air, in chakra conductive material - Behaving like heat- or depending on the amount of ambient chakra - behaving like air pressure)
Actually, a thought on the way we can turn off seals:
1) We know seals and runes require the Out to function.
2) we could possibly prevent this proper functioning by:
A) 'Monopolizing' all or critical parts of the Out, preventing other seals from accessing the Out.
B) Altering Seal/Rune interactions with the Out in subtle ways, inevitably causing seal (infusions?) to work improperly.
C) Changing astrological phenomena and other variabled used to ensure Sealcraft is 'safe', making it functionally impossible to determine if any given condition is safe to conduct infusions or research within a given area.
Also, I realise this is like really super late, but is it possible for us to have 'forgotten' to get rid of (sabotaged) sealing notes?
Like half burnt and the remainder uses a bunch of Outtouched tricks to maximize chance of seal failure if it is completed.
In fact, in general, is it possible to make a seal that has effect X, but instead appears to have effect Y? Example: Seal that immediately explodes on infusion (but otherwise appears to be a regular explosive tag).
^ I love the idea of monopolizing the Out and I'll bet anything we'll either be killed immediately or shortly afterwards by Agentic Entity in the Out if we tries, if not the Watchers
Actually, a thought on the way we can turn off seals:
1) We know seals and runes require the Out to function.
2) we could possibly prevent this proper functioning by:
A) 'Monopolizing' all or critical parts of the Out, preventing other seals from accessing the Out.
B) Altering Seal/Rune interactions with the Out in subtle ways, inevitably causing seal (infusions?) to work improperly.
C) Changing astrological phenomena and other variabled used to ensure Sealcraft is 'safe', making it functionally impossible to determine if any given condition is safe to conduct infusions or research within a given area.
Also, I realise this is like really super late, but is it possible for us to have 'forgotten' to get rid of (sabotaged) sealing notes?
Like half burnt and the remainder uses a bunch of Outtouched tricks to maximize chance of seal failure if it is completed.
In fact, in general, is it possible to make a seal that has effect X, but instead appears to have effect Y? Example: Seal that immediately explodes on infusion (but otherwise appears to be a regular explosive tag).
...Hm. That's a pretty good thought, actually, and with benefits beyond turning off seals/runes safely -- it would prevent them from working at all, if they were cut off from the Out, which shuts down two of Akatsuki.
Cutting off seals from what's on the other side of the paint would, IMO, require strengthening the paint. If this were so easy to do, wouldn't the Sage have done it? He had runecrafting too.
Cutting off seals from what's on the other side of the paint would, IMO, require strengthening the paint. If this were so easy to do, wouldn't the Sage have done it? He had runecrafting too.
Re. the preventing-seals-from-working discussion; we previously tried this with the Reality Stabilizer Rune (Chapter 660 for the prep day), and got 'beyond capabilities'. This rune was also intended to prevent sealing failures, which may have raised the difficulty, but even so it seems likely that this class of rune is impractical for now.
Building on this idea, a less lethal but just as workable solution might be sealing notes that.. Lead nowhere. Creating junk information is much, much faster than creating usable information. With sealing research, differentiation of junk and non-junk information may be exceptionally difficult. Hazo could create promising research pathways that need like a month each to disprove. With his Out-Insight, Sealing Genius Rep, it's even possible that the other party concludes that they don't actually know what Hazo is trying.
Hazō paced back and forth anxiously between the weird psychedelic mushroom trees of the Toad forest. Noburi had missed his check-in. Noburi was dead. They never made it out of Leaf. Mari missed the message and Akatsuki made their move early. Akatsuki intercepted the message and interrogated her. Naruto decided he wasn't letting Noburi go and seized him as soon as he came back from the Seventh Path. Itachi had been watching the compound and intercepted them. Leaf's hunter-nin had pursuit capabilities they didn't publicise and caught up with the team. Mari had seen the message, weighed her options, and decided to cut ties rather than leave.
"Hazō."
Hazō spun around. "Noburi! You're all right!"
Noburi looked exhausted, shoulders drooping and bags under his eyes. His expression on seeing Hazō was not relieved but grim.
"We set fire to our lives and walked away," Noburi said. "Nobody's all right."
"You're safe," Hazō amended. "Where are you right now?"
"Tea," Noburi said. "There's no sign of pursuit, so we're on a direct path to join you, fast as we can."
Ah.
"Noburi," Hazō said tentatively, "where do you think I am?"
"Somewhere near Crimson State Island, right?"
"...No," Hazō said. "That was a lie for Akatsuki's benefit."
Noburi facepalmed. "And it didn't occur to you to mention that before?"
"You know I couldn't give you my location while you were still in Leaf," Hazō said. "Akatsuki could have questioned you at any time. It's the same reason I went out of my way not to talk about it in our check-ins. I couldn't put it in the note because we don't have a code for 'western Gaikotsu Bay', and in any case I had to think about the worst-case scenario. If you failed to get away and Akatsuki found out our location, it would be game over for everyone."
"Gaikotsu Bay?" Noburi repeated. "You have got to be kidding me. If we have to go around Fire, that's going to take forever."
"Well, if you're near the southern islands where Akatsuki will be looking for me, then I can't be the one to come to you," Hazō pointed out.
"Whatever," Noburi said. "It's not a big deal."
He slid off his barrel and sat down, slumping against the stalk of a vividly purple mushroom tree.
"This sucks," he said with feeling. "Yuno's miserable. Last time she went missing, she didn't have anything–anyone–to lose. This time she had friends, students, even a future she was working towards, and she gave it all up to follow me. I feel like a total bastard, and it wasn't even my order.
"And me? I had a career. I was helping people. I was trusted. I'd just got private tutoring from Tsunade–sort of–which was going to take me to the next level. Now I'm back in the woods and it's like my life never happened.
"Mari's gone quiet. She's not talking any more than she has to, and I'm kind of afraid to push given the state she's in. So it's down to you to explain. What the hell, Hazō?"
Hazō sat down next to him.
"I've been doing runic weapons research to kill Akatsuki, on Naruto's orders. Everything else was just a cover. The message you gave me last time was a contingency trigger to go missing because he couldn't stall them any further."
Noburi silently absorbed this.
"I guess that tracks. The others–Kei, Snowflake, Kagome–did they know when they signed up?"
Hazō shrugged. "I'm pretty sure Kei figured it out because she's Kei, but I couldn't tell anyone. I certainly couldn't tell anyone the Hokage had ordered me to go missing if things went badly.
"I'm sorry for uprooting you all, I really am. But I couldn't come back and have Akatsuki find out I was directly working against them, and once they figured out I'd gone missing, they were bound to go after my family."
"Dammit." Noburi slammed his fist against the stalk beside him, leaving a deep impression. "This was always going to happen, wasn't it?"
"Kind of," Hazō agreed. "I couldn't give up fighting Akatsuki, not with the world at stake, and they weren't going to stop monitoring me. I had to get away, and I had to go missing once they forced Naruto to order me back.
"But maybe I could have avoided it. If I'd just been smarter, better at research, maybe I could have come up with a superweapon by now, and we could be back in Leaf killing Akatsuki instead of… this."
"It's fine," Noburi said after a second. "I mean, it's not fine, this whole thing is a steaming pile of bullshit and I hate everything about it, but if I was going to complain about you being dumb, I'd have been doing it way before now."
"Noburi, you complain about me being dumb all the time. Just the other day, you told me how much of an idiot I was for forgetting to write to Ino, and how lucky I was to have a brother with a gift for plausible excuses."
"I'm pretty sure she didn't buy it, for the record," Noburi said. "You're really going to have to make it up to her when…"
He winced.
"We're not coming back, are we?"
"We are," Hazō insisted. "We're going to kill Akatsuki and be welcomed back as heroes. If you think skywalkers were worth adopting a pack of missing-nin over, wait till you see what Naruto's prepared to do for Akatsuki-killing runes, not to mention all the other craziness I'm working on."
"I guess we'll see," Noburi said. "You'll forgive me if I'm not at my most optimistic right now."
He levered himself to his feet.
"I'd better get back. I can't leave Yuno alone right now. You said western Gaikotsu Bay?"
"Actually, no," Hazō said. "I mean yes, but if you have to make it all the way from Tea, then it would be better to meet up in northern Iron. That's our first rendezvous point with Tenten and Fujisawa, assuming they take Kei's warning seriously and come join us."
Noburi froze. "Fujisawa's coming?"
"We hope so," Hazō said. "She's on the list of people we expect Akatsuki to take hostage sooner or later. Why, is there a problem?"
"No," Noburi said quickly, his eyes wide. "It's fine. No problem at all."
Hazō stood up. "Noburi, I'm your brother and your clan head. Talk to me."
"You're not my clan head anymore," Noburi said, without hostility. "I doubt there's even going to be a Gōketsu Clan by the end of the week, between the treason and Mari taking or torching the good stuff."
"Fine, whatever," Hazō said, shoving that thought in a deep vault and throwing away the key. "I'm still your brother. If there's something wrong, I want to help."
Noburi looked away.
"It's nothing," he said. "I just think… she's cute. Fujisawa, I mean. Easily five stars."
"I guess?" Hazō said. "Assuming you're into girls who can't smile."
"I had a crush on Kei, didn't I?"
Hazō laughed.
"I don't mean I have a crush on Fujisawa or anything," Noburi clarified. "I don't really know her, and I've been going out of my way not to know her, just in case, even though she's my wife's best friend and if she's noticed, she probably thinks I hate her. But if we're going to be missing-nin together for however long…"
Hazō nodded.
"I'm not saying I'd cheat on Yuno!" Noburi exclaimed without provocation. "I'm not that kind of guy. But Yuno has razor-sharp intuition for this stuff. If she picks up on her husband being attracted to her best friend… well, there's no scenario that doesn't end in a bloodbath, is there?"
Hazō and Noburi shared an ominous silence.
"We'll figure something out," Hazō said, without confidence. "We still have at least a week before everyone's together. In the meantime, you guys should head for Nuken'in Temple in northern Iron."
"Never heard of it."
"It's not far from the Liberator's fortress," Hazō said. "I'll have the map copied–I mean, I'll copy the map out for you by next check-in.
"Noburi…" he said as Noburi strapped on his barrel. "Tell everyone I'm sorry."
"...Yeah."
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Kei was moving the instant Snowflake signalled "clear", leaving Hazō and Kagome far behind in her haste to be in that clearing even a second sooner. She needed to know. Needed to see. Nothing else mattered.
Tenten, with her perfect understanding of Kei, was already braced, and did not collapse beneath the sudden impact of her embrace (on skywalkers, there was no need to touch down first before proceeding to her destination). She was… she was here. Alive. Safe. Hers. Holding her, confirming Tenten's existence with her own hands, instantly dispelled a week of nightmares.
However, even for Tenten, Kei's stamina was not infinite. Finally, reluctantly, she disengaged, allowing Snowflake to take her turn.
With her field of view regrettably no longer fully occupied by Tenten, Kei looked around the clearing, a sense of wrongness steadily rising through her body and beginning to curl around her heart.
"Tenten," she asked anxiously, "where is Miyuki?"
The silence, like all Tenten's silences, said everything that needed to be said.
"No…" Kei whispered.
"She trusts you," Tenten said firmly. "But she doesn't trust the Mad Clan Lord.
"Her words," she added apologetically, looking at Hazō.
Hazō nodded absently.
"I should have known," Kei said as the magnitude of her failure began to become apparent. "I should have factored Hazō's reputation into my persuasion. I should have anticipated that she would distrust claims of a grand, Leaf-saving mission from the treasonous megalomaniac–"
"No offence," Snowflake supplemented.
"–and overemphasise the irrationality of my loyalty to same. Of course she would assume that I permitted my love to blind me to the realities of the situation. Perhaps she even believes, not unfairly, that the need to protect you has led me to follow you beyond the point of reason. I should have been clearer. I should have been more convincing. I should have–"
"This was her agency," Tenten said. "Only hers."
The images washed over Kei, the nightmares returned to consume reality. The T&I catalogue available on request from the main office, come to life in Uchiha Itachi's hands. The blazing fire of the Sharingan that even Naruto had been unable to endure. The bloodthirsty madness of Hidan and the cold cruelty of the sealmaster who hollowed out shinobi to use as his puppets.
"It was my responsibility!" Kei exclaimed. "Were it not for me, she would be nothing to Akatsuki! She would be safe!"
Tenten shook her head.
"We chose not to be safe."
Kei's thoughts ground to a halt. "I beg your pardon?"
"Politics. Homophobia. Akatsuki. The un-Uplifted world," Tenten listed. "I knew your enemies. I knew being with you made them my enemies too. So did Miyuki."
She stepped closer to Kei.
"We could have chosen safer lives. No enemies. No lovers. Just us, alone, until we died."
"So it truly is my fault," Kei concluded. "I drew you into an entire world of danger where you did not belong, all out of my own selfishness."
"We chose," Tenten repeated. "Just like you chose to follow Hazō. I am here because of my own choices. Miyuki isn't, because of hers."
Kei stood silent. At least Tenten was safe. Miyuki would be abducted, likely tortured, possibly killed, but at least Tenten was safe. In the back of her mind, a vile, hideous voice whispered relief that at least it had not been the other way around. Kei quashed it as best she could.
"Can anything be done?" she asked Hazō, pleading. If there was ever a moment for his genius to save them…
"I'm sorry," he said. "With Tenten gone missing right after the others, there's no chance of Fujisawa getting away too if she hasn't already. Even Mari couldn't extract her from under that much surveillance."
"We don't know Akatsuki will kidnap and torture your girlfriend," Kagome said with an edge of desperation. "It's not like they know who she is. I barely know who she is. And they're all crazy lunatics with maybe a tenth of a brain between them. I'm sure they'll just overlook her."
"Do not comfort me like a child!" Kei snapped. "This was the entire reason for the envelope system. They were supposed to flee or stay together, because if one left, it guaranteed that the other would immediately come to Akatsuki's attention. Except apparently I failed even at that."
She closed her eyes. She did not wish to see the pity on their faces. Miyuki. Beautiful, indomitable, inventive, innocent Miyuki. Even if Hazō's staggering optimism was validated and they one day returned to Leaf as heroes, it would be too late.
"Please tell me about the mission," Tenten said eventually.
Of course. Kei had failed even to explain what she had asked them to risk everything for.
"Hazō has created a new sealing discipline," Kei began.
"Kei!" Hazō exclaimed.
Kei whirled around. "Hazō, if you believe that after everything that Tenten has sacrificed, I will allow her to be–"
"Excuse me," Snowflake interrupted. "I believe what Kei is attempting to say is that runecrafting is not a clan secret due to Orochimaru's possession of same"–without even knowing what runecrafting was capable of, Tenten gave her a look of utter horror–"nor is Tenten in any position to disclose it to anyone until its existence is in any case revealed by its large-scale deployment against Akatsuki."
"Even if it were a clan secret," Kei noted, "we are missing-nin. It would technically belong to Jin and the others, with ourselves being clanless thieves to be eliminated in order to protect it.
"More to the point, you will note that Tenten has chosen to be here, aligned with Akatsuki's primary target, and not, say, on the eastern continent where she could live in relative safety until our victory or defeat. She is a member of Operation Twilight now, and entitled to full disclosure."
"I concur," Snowflake said. "That said, if you believe that it is both desirable and physically possible to conceal runecrafting from Tenten for however many months while you are conducting regular prototype infusions in her immediate vicinity, and while Kagome, aware of every detail of your research, is also within her immediate vicinity, we can–"
"Fine," Hazō said, holding up his hands, "you win. Tenten, we're out here researching runes, which are three-dimensional seals with vastly more potential power than ordinary paper seals, with the specific goal of killing Akatsuki, on Naruto's orders."
Tenten nodded. "To prevent them from opening the rift?"
Hazō looked at Kei.
"Nothing about the rift race is classified," Kei said impatiently. "The existence of the rift is known to the senior members of all council clans, and doubtless to anyone they gossip with. All of the pieces have been not only available but in plain sight ever since Itachi blurted out Akatsuki's interest in dimensionalism research in front of the entire Clan Council and it emerged that you were the only person conducting same."
Hazō sighed. "That's right. They're planning to open the rift and bring back Pain from the afterlife, which would allow them to conquer the world. Considering Pain's the kind of man who called Hidan a friend and enabled his massacring tendencies, I don't intend to find out what he'd be like as a global dictator. We're going to wipe out Akatsuki, open the rift ourselves, and then rescue Akane, Jiraiya, and as many of Leaf's heroes as we can. Hopefully, all of that will be enough justification for Naruto to accept us as Leaf ninja again."
Tenten nodded again. "How can I help?"
After a pause that made it clear Hazō had no idea, Kei spoke in his place.
"We are missing-nin now. We will be hunted, not only by Akatsuki, but also by lesser threats, such as the hunter-nin of every village in the world aware that the creator of skywalkers is now fair game. We must be ready to hide, flee, or defend ourselves as necessary, above all protecting Hazō while he conducts his research. Kagome, please brief Tenten on bystander sealing safety at the earliest opportunity."
"I can do that," Kagome said enthusiastically. A younger Kei might have taken it for delight at acquiring a new target to inflict his obsessions on, as opposed to relief at finally having some way to engage with the complex and awkward situation he found himself in (and also delight at acquiring a new target to inflict his obsessions on).
"We should get going," Hazō said. "This is probably the last place in the world where anyone would cooperate with hunter-nin, but we can't say for certain that nobody saw us come down. We can figure out further logistics once Mari and the others join us tomorrow."
As Hazō handed Tenten a fresh set of skywalker seals, Kei took one last look back, towards Leaf and the girl she would never finish falling in love with.
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