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We should really get to upgrading the normbots next turn.
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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- Crossover
- Location
- The Netherlands
it can make all the differance man, remember that we beat Xanatos' intrigue by 1 once. it can be worth a lot
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
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- Latveria
I see parallels between Kat Nebulans and Space-Spawn
Mostly
I mean probably not but it'd be hilarious.
That's a pretty big assertion to make over the most powerful and economical fuel source in the entire universe, Uburnium. Plus Sublight drives can go pretty fast and are pretty efficient to my limited understanding.
Orbital weapons I'd understand but banning astroid mining? Where would they get their resources? Besides reentry isn't an issue as long as ya chop up asteroids in space and land the harvest into the ocean to be collected later instead of tow trucking things back and forth like I think you may be suggesting?
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TimEd
Meteor maker
Most efficient way found to be doable as a method to mine asteroids, is to drag the asteroid to orbit around the moon, harvest it there, drop the harvested materials in the ocean, then fling the spent asteroid out of orbit. This is a legitimate proposal on how asteroid mining could be done.
Edit: Also, this is without Mad Science, Alien Tech, and Magic
Edit: Also, this is without Mad Science, Alien Tech, and Magic
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- Location
- USA
We've had that upgrade available for a very long time. It was basically low hanging fruit we never got around to.
Remember when norm tied? It would have been a win with this.
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Ooh. I like that! We could make tons of income when we start our space program on mining. Not only that, we could also find new materials we can use to further our own gain.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
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- Latveria
The pessimist/idealist in me want to say there won't be any new materials to find once GalFed databanks pop open. Though since it'd be what's on the stolen ship so 50/50.
Anyhow biggest hurdles are in no particular order-
synthasing the fuel at 130, SL drives at 140, possible navigation through GalFed computers at 140, Doofania Space Program quest line plus N research action(s) at ???, and the suboptimal cloaking at 140 if we wanna be stealthy while exploiting exploring space while crossing our fingers that we don't have to interact with the authorities or hostiles or have to answer questions/bump up Earthlings from being fragile primatives who have to re evolve after every astroid hit.
Space is a commitment that would have such a delicious PR boost. The media loves space. The tech would be swell. Galactic politics would suck. Speaking on behalf of Earth would be hilarious. Possibly being strong-armed into joining the GalFed would suck.
Kings probably trying to steal tech and research would suck and mayhaps be hilarious. Sticking it to the face of the FedGov by having the GalFed recognize our sovereignty would be delicious and hilarious if possible. FedGov trying to put up the xeno masquerade would be annoying. The asteroids, oh the asteroids.
This quote encapsulates my thoughts.
"What's that smell? The sweet space, oh, it sings to me. It's enough to make a man sick…"
Cyberspace offers power through information that's also tempting. Also it's more close to heart through a son (you will convert someday Heinz) and a daughter. Plus possible replicators and time shenanigans. Though those admittedly come with their own issues.
Olivebirdy
mook.
Just went through the Rival Reports to back up my 'Our nemeses are beating us' position, and it's not as bad as it seems, but it's still worrying.
- Xanatos is going from strength to strength, his partnership with Chef Skinner and Toffee's corn are most likely beating the pants off our cricket farms. He's beat pretty much every roll we've seen in New York and he's doing great.
- Shere Khan is beating us in the Cold Fusion race, has succeeded two DCs and is currently stuck on the third.
- In the Occult section, we're nowhere near Bill Cipher and Toffee, but we might be catching up to Xanatos.
- Sycorax and InventCo are neck and neck with us on sciencey stuff.
- Xanatos and Drakktech are both better than we are militarily.
- Doom and Kronos are recovering.
The blurb does say we can search for Uburnium out in deep space.
...Most of these Guys aren't our Nemesis. Most of them aren't even Enemies.
Just because they aren't us doesn't mean it's necessarily always bad that they're succeeding. We do plan on allying with some of them after all.
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Kind of like being the universal connector of sorts.
Speaking of connections, who else do we want to ally with?
We've contacted Xanatos, have an interlude on our success on shego and plans on reaching out to the Zaibatsu. Any other kings in mind to communicate with?
Butter Fly guy? Get an out of context problem for the other kings.
I think it premature to declare that our rivals are beating us, based on the reports, as we only see a very limited selection of their actions.
For instance, based on our public actions, this is likely what our rivals see of us if they aren't looking more closely...
2015 Jan/Feb: Buy out a rival corporation: ACME
2015 Mar/Apr: Solve the Food Situation
2015: May/Jun: Declare Your Territory Toon-Friendly
2015: Jul/Aug: Combat organized crime in Doofania
2015: Sep/Oct: Combat organized crime in Doofania
2015 Nov/Dec: Combat organized crime in Doofania; Research Greevil Power Solutions; Research Flubber
2016: Jan/Feb: Combat organized crime in Doofania; Poach people from Kronos; Develop a flying car
2016: March/April: Form a Think Tank
2016 May/June: Research Dino Domestication
2016 July/August: Campaign Against the SRA; Rebrand Insuricare's anti-Super Policies; Develop a new Social Media Platform
2016 Sep/Oct: Dinosaur Farming; Release Revolutionary Coffee Machine
...not the most comprehensive picture, is it? We have done quite actions other than these, to varying results, so let's not judge their success or lack thereof entirely based on what little info we have access to.
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Olivebirdy
mook.
Then we'll break them cartoonishly. I'm not seeing the problem for the indisputed ruler of all Doofania. Being cautious and careful is not only less fun, it's also out of character and not necessarily what you need in order to win a fast-paced game like this. Other companies are not waiting for us to take the time to be careful, they're busy building money and power.
We are a supervillain, it's kind of what we do! It's basically just exporting the Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated experience to the wider galaxy. Besides, when I say 'deal', I mean in the way of 'making mutually beneficial deals'. I'm sure the other Kings and the United States will be shocked and horrified that their first contact ambassador is Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, but that's a very very good thing for business.
Ah, sorry. I meant nemeses as in rival kings, not nemeses as in Nemesis.
I'm in this to win this. While we have potential allies, I'd like to beat them too. There's only room enough on this world for one Evil Overlord, and it should be us, not Xanatos or Shego.
Noooot exactly a connection, but I'd like to steal Shere Khan's Cold Fusion research so we can finish it first. Failing that, I'd accept a partnership on CF so we can beat that 150 DC and gain at least partial credit.
Fair enough.
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...I'm running out of ways to explain the issue here other than "stop whining."
It's bad enough when it's "something actually went wrong." It's worse when it's "nothing whatsoever went wrong, but I'm upset that the QM didn't give us more shinies."
You're not going to shake more shinies out of him this way. You KNOW this. Why do you keep doing it?
I think that this once, we'd better. The risk from some of our Badnewsinators firing at double effect doesn't bare thinking on.
I think this may just be one of those cases where @Made in Heaven announces the effects of the action during the interlude, rather than having the action go "poof" with no effect.
To hell with "soured on." I'm just tired of us juggling so many things that we never have a chance to be effective. I want to consolidate our gains in areas we're actually good at, get our act together, and then hit hard.
Alternatively, we'll start poking them in the eye and they'll come to Earth and wipe us out. We don't have a lot to offer a bunch of aliens.
The "edge" we need isn't a whole new frontier of conflicts to worry about- though I wouldn't say no to a uburnium mine if we can find one. It's to actually consolidate our strength and whittle down one enemy at a time here on Earth instead of constantly picking a new fight every few turns.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
- Location
- Latveria
Drossel Juno Vierzehntes Heizregister Fürstin von Flügel. Shere Khan has been brought up though I haven't seen his source material. Grand Councilwoman if we can explain away why we have 624, Jumba, and Pleakly. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind if they have a King would probably be alright. Abraham Kane maybe but I haven't seen Motorcity and the wiki paints him to be unpleasant and maybe an idiot? Like Doof played straight.
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The U.S. of A if we get more out of any deal then they do. Otherwise case by case basis.
I like the ambition.
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Out of curiosity, any thoughts on why we didn't hear a peep from them? Are they too small like Bellweather before Syndrom's fall or are they cut off communication like Hawaii?
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(1), (2): Xanatos and Shere Khan aren't our enemies. Given how many other enemies we have, some of whom Xanatos would oppose, it is probably to our advantage that Xanatos is thriving. Shere Khan is ahead of us in fusion research, but "beat Shere Khan in fusion research" is an entirely self-imposed challenge on our part, and nothing specifically bad happens to us if he wins the race.
(3): This isn't even a case of enemies 'winning,' it's that we started from literally nothing.
(4): In some areas they're matching us; in other areas they're probably not. In the long run, Jumba and his GalFed tech are likely to leave them in the dust.
(5): See previous about Xanatos. As for Drakktech, their real advantage is Shego's cultivation of supers, which of course is going to be hard to match. But again, Shego having an area where she is better than us does not mean she is beating us.
(6) Judge Doom is a nuisance-level problem for us. Kronos-as-Olympia is 'recovering' but it remains to be seen whether it's a threat.
As far as I can determine, the only way you'd think we were doing well is if we'd already outstripped everyone and were top boss in all areas. And... space travel isn't going to let us do that. It's just not. We'll encounter too many players with resource bases larger than our own, who will want to take what we have or be offended by our very existence and presence.
We can't even put down the mayor of Los Angeles right now. How are we supposed to be able to deal on equal terms with aspiring interstellar conquerors?
Oooh, that's clever. A good point!
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- USA
Best of luck there.
I feel we've already bitten off more than we can chew with just toffee (though I completely support that decision).
I'd have no problem splitting the world with the more agreeable opposition.
As long we we can even survive stuff like Bill or any other existential threat that pops up.
Olivebirdy
mook.
You know, I'm really not seeing why Shere Khan is going for Cold Fusion. Is he planning to copyright it? Scientifically 'prove' that it's impossible? There just doesn't seem to be any incentive for him to produce an alternative to his oil piplines.
Yeah. Personally I'd like that to be SPACE, but just in general, specializing would be good.
That seems quite imbalanced for a quest. I rather doubt the QM will go, 'Okay, you touched the space questline, game over!'
We don't need to touch aliens at first. We can focus on the PR, the notoriety, the business contracts, the scientists running to join us for starting a real evil space program. There's good stuff out there that we can use that doesn't necessarily involve getting into new fights. Asteroid Mining, Space Science, Weaponized Satellites.
However.
There's a worrying line in the Doofenshmirtz Evil Space Program action, which is 'A vantage point to spy for aliens unobstructed by a pesky atmosphere!'
If we're worried about aliens coming to wipe us out, it might be nice for us to be able to see their fleets before they arrive.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
- Location
- Latveria
On the map he shares borders with Xanatos, Toxic Jungle, Wasteland, and *shudders* Canada (tis a joke). Maybe Xany puppets Kane, Kane is busy with TJ and AUTO, or perhaps he's like a platypus after winning. He doesn't do much. Or OR all of the above. A question with no good answer.
Looking at him the things he can offer is stolen tech, money (HA), new enemies, and a hate for cars. Maybe decent Martial if made into a unit?
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- Germany
Honestly, guys:
Let´s stay away from space for now - once we got our affairs on Earth under control enough we can talk about it, but right now all it´d do is swamp us with more problems while we are already pretty occupied.
Heck, keeping our attempts at reaching out/networking in mind I´d go so far to say that Shego and Xanatos looking rather sucessful in what they are doing could be a boon for us as well once we get this damnable Alliance/Council going
Personally, next I´d go for either Deavour (since she is our neighbour and MIGHT be genuine in her super support in this timeline unlike in canon) or Von Flügel (aside from us she is the only overly benevolent King right now) for that Alliance - Khan is still in the cards for me, but he´s a bit far away while we should focuse on our neighbours.
Now, let´s see what we´ve got this turn in results:
Might look a bit meh, but as others have stated before, one point can and did change results...so I am not that bummed about the payout of a *Decent* Success
Little surprise, since a) Lee looks like a rather approachable guy and b) the two have met before at the Gala, remember? Might have helped a bit. At least now we can get cracking about possible collabs with Shego and asking her about wtf is going with that Drug Ring, because honestly? I want that away from our spehere of influence and regardless of whether Shego is the boss or not, coordinating with her in that regard will only help-
Goofy continues being a valuable employee for us and him securing Wendy is no different, since as seen below we seem to be running into a bit of a wall AI-wise.
Dear, Hego seems to have "cut" things close a bit here, but he still suceeded in the end and now we got some more income and good PR outta it, so I ain´t complaining - to say nothing that the success for some reason lowered the DC for Dino Adaption, which is nice too.
No complaints here, since Stewardship seems to be a bit of a bottleneck for us.
Hmm, a bit less spectacular than I´d have hoped as a smokescreen to cushion the probable PR of us not taking Dooms collab "offer" (which reeks of a trap like nothing else), but I´ll take it regardless.
Damn, that sucks since some are worried about Kat (I am rather unaffected myself - maybe outta ingorance of the source material admittedly), but at least Francis didn´t mess up in a way that´ll bite us in the ass.
...Honestly? I am actually pretty happy about that swap. While yes, we could have used that double body tech, because of that we can *and will* attempt it again soon, while without the swap that Coffee Machine would probably have collected dust in our Learning bracket and never received much attention. That way, we got it kind-of "for free" (as in "did not explicitly sacrifice an option to get it") and now we got a moderate income boost, which is always nice to have, especially once we need to actively hire the Commodore again (right now, he agreed to extend our business agreement without further cost thanks to how "meaty" he considers the lead on Marco).
On top of the money, that *automatic* potion brewing really intrigues me. Does that mean, that we won´t have to keep actively brewing the same kind of potions (like minor healing ones - remember, that we are still pretty new to the whole alchemy biz) each turn once we used one initial PA at one turn? If so, then that thing will really paying dividends.
Pretty nice, although I admittedly expected a small income boost on top of that for the translation software for DoofOS we could refine that suite into (once we vanished all those *alien* languages outta official databanks, of course)
...We really do have a weird knack for crushing our Occults NAs, huh? Not complaining at all.
That being said, I am kinda worried that Kitsune might have done something fucky to sate her Mischief trait.
...Huh, not bad at all.
I already said my bit about seemingly-minor roll boni, but even then that "Chemical deterrent" option doesn´t sound so bad.
While the name of the interlude does concern me, I really like our Bossman with Russ (one of our most important Hero Units) going that well, especially since he MIGHT fit that weird prophecy we got (although I am not sold on that one)
Nice...I already know which one I´ll pick.
*blinks*
Okay? That one sounds pretty amusing.
Yeah, we´re definitely hitting a wall there. At least now we got Wendy to hopefully lend a hand in that regard.
Maybe next time Norm should try getting rid of his anti-platypus subroutines? Sounds less precarious than further annoying Doof without any payout.
...That one could be really good or really bad, depending on our next Inator.
Let´s stay away from space for now - once we got our affairs on Earth under control enough we can talk about it, but right now all it´d do is swamp us with more problems while we are already pretty occupied.
Heck, keeping our attempts at reaching out/networking in mind I´d go so far to say that Shego and Xanatos looking rather sucessful in what they are doing could be a boon for us as well once we get this damnable Alliance/Council going
Personally, next I´d go for either Deavour (since she is our neighbour and MIGHT be genuine in her super support in this timeline unlike in canon) or Von Flügel (aside from us she is the only overly benevolent King right now) for that Alliance - Khan is still in the cards for me, but he´s a bit far away while we should focuse on our neighbours.
Now, let´s see what we´ve got this turn in results:
Might look a bit meh, but as others have stated before, one point can and did change results...so I am not that bummed about the payout of a *Decent* Success
Little surprise, since a) Lee looks like a rather approachable guy and b) the two have met before at the Gala, remember? Might have helped a bit. At least now we can get cracking about possible collabs with Shego and asking her about wtf is going with that Drug Ring, because honestly? I want that away from our spehere of influence and regardless of whether Shego is the boss or not, coordinating with her in that regard will only help-
Goofy continues being a valuable employee for us and him securing Wendy is no different, since as seen below we seem to be running into a bit of a wall AI-wise.
Dear, Hego seems to have "cut" things close a bit here, but he still suceeded in the end and now we got some more income and good PR outta it, so I ain´t complaining - to say nothing that the success for some reason lowered the DC for Dino Adaption, which is nice too.
No complaints here, since Stewardship seems to be a bit of a bottleneck for us.
Hmm, a bit less spectacular than I´d have hoped as a smokescreen to cushion the probable PR of us not taking Dooms collab "offer" (which reeks of a trap like nothing else), but I´ll take it regardless.
Damn, that sucks since some are worried about Kat (I am rather unaffected myself - maybe outta ingorance of the source material admittedly), but at least Francis didn´t mess up in a way that´ll bite us in the ass.
...Honestly? I am actually pretty happy about that swap. While yes, we could have used that double body tech, because of that we can *and will* attempt it again soon, while without the swap that Coffee Machine would probably have collected dust in our Learning bracket and never received much attention. That way, we got it kind-of "for free" (as in "did not explicitly sacrifice an option to get it") and now we got a moderate income boost, which is always nice to have, especially once we need to actively hire the Commodore again (right now, he agreed to extend our business agreement without further cost thanks to how "meaty" he considers the lead on Marco).
On top of the money, that *automatic* potion brewing really intrigues me. Does that mean, that we won´t have to keep actively brewing the same kind of potions (like minor healing ones - remember, that we are still pretty new to the whole alchemy biz) each turn once we used one initial PA at one turn? If so, then that thing will really paying dividends.
Pretty nice, although I admittedly expected a small income boost on top of that for the translation software for DoofOS we could refine that suite into (once we vanished all those *alien* languages outta official databanks, of course)
...We really do have a weird knack for crushing our Occults NAs, huh? Not complaining at all.
That being said, I am kinda worried that Kitsune might have done something fucky to sate her Mischief trait.
...Huh, not bad at all.
I already said my bit about seemingly-minor roll boni, but even then that "Chemical deterrent" option doesn´t sound so bad.
While the name of the interlude does concern me, I really like our Bossman with Russ (one of our most important Hero Units) going that well, especially since he MIGHT fit that weird prophecy we got (although I am not sold on that one)
Nice...I already know which one I´ll pick.
*blinks*
Okay? That one sounds pretty amusing.
Yeah, we´re definitely hitting a wall there. At least now we got Wendy to hopefully lend a hand in that regard.
Maybe next time Norm should try getting rid of his anti-platypus subroutines? Sounds less precarious than further annoying Doof without any payout.
...That one could be really good or really bad, depending on our next Inator.
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- USA
I've got a suspicion...
Not going to go into it but criting on magic defense might be really fortunate.
Not going to go into it but criting on magic defense might be really fortunate.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Maybe he's become convinced that alternative energy sources will be the wave of the future and wants to get in on the ground floor? So, copyright.
No no no, that's not what I said. What I'm saying is that if we try to become heavily involved in space, especially with GalFed already active on Earth, the odds of our space presence attracting attention we're not ready for becomes large. Dealing with space factions is going to be problematic for us unless they're friendly.
I'm not saying "don't do space," but I AM saying "don't assume that a space program is our 'killer app' for pulling ahead of everyone else.
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For all the people that are panicking about space, we don't even know if Space Expansion will be used. It honestly sounds like too much hastle than it's worth for Doofquest. We did see references, but there is conformation that it will play big part in plot other than GalFed's existence. Also, we don't need to leave Solar System tbh. Not sure why people are so focused on that. Planets in our system have quite enough of resources for us, and Moon and Mars have quite enough of space to colonize. Of course, we might meet locals, but hey even better! More potential allies! Unless we accidentally unleash wild Lunaris. But hey, it's much more manageable than Evronians. Or galaxy-wide conquerers. Or spawn-camping teleporting pirates. Definitely much more manageable.