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LordEdric said:
I'm surprised no one has done any guesses as to who Tobe meets. I personally want to say Tomokiri, just because it would be completely out of left field, also because I want to push a debate to get us to 1000 pages
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My thought is it will end up being Jing-Jing, as someone mentioned they're technically married and she did react back in Golden Fan 2 when it came out.
 
jonasquinn said:
I mean, there's a difference between expecting it to have a huge impact and expecting that revealing that one of his highest ranking subordinates has committed several crimes and having him arrested by the new competent police chief would have some impact on him and cause some negative PR
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I very much doubt that Hawk was officially and publicly employed as Doom's spymaster.
 
jonasquinn said:
I mean, there's a difference between expecting it to have a huge impact and expecting that revealing that one of his highest ranki subordinates has committed several crimes and having him arrested by the new competent police chief would have some impact on him and cause some negative PR
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Not really. The second thing you described is a huge impact for the first one. With such a low roll and no other follow-up, Doom can extremely easily cut ties. The "new commissioner" even plays in perfectly for blunting PR damage by allowing framing it as sweeping out corruption.

Furthermore, I don't think Alonso Hawk is as public a name among the general public as it is among people who actually pay attention to corporates.

That doesn't mean there won't be any harm. We'll probably see some in the interlude. It just means that you just didn't really put in any effort on actually making lasting damage towards a King.
 
I'd laugh if it was Momakase. Sadly if we're gunna get the ??? Effect from Dino Farms we're gunna have to wait and see I guess.
 
I'm glad we got so many big successes. And that Monogram wasn't a critical failure. Next turn maybe. I'd also like to possible put Lovemuffin on Siliphium next turn.
 
MrCogmor said:
I very much doubt that Hawk was officially and publicly employed as Doom's spymaster.
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No but he was almost certainly at the very least a known associate and I'd be surprised if it wasn't an open secret anyway
PyrrosWarrior said:
Not really. The second thing you described is a huge impact for the first one. With such a low roll and no other follow-up, Doom can extremely easily cut ties. The "new commissioner" even plays in perfectly for blunting PR damage by allowing framing it as sweeping out corruption.

Furthermore, I don't think Alonso Hawk is as public a name among the general public as it is among people who actually pay attention to corporates.

That doesn't mean there won't be any harm. We'll probably see some in the interlude. It just means that you just didn't really put in any effort on actually making lasting damage towards a King.
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I would argue that "Doom looks a little bad and might have to spend an action addressing that rather than fucking with you for once" isn't a huge impact
 
TempestK said:
I'm glad we got so many big successes. And that Monogram wasn't a critical failure. Next turn maybe. I'd also like to possible put Lovemuffin on Siliphium next turn.
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We should probably get them to first Decentralize the Normbots next turn so they don't get virus-chipped (or a similar kind of sabotage) like what happened at the Gala. We don't quite yet know when PB is coming so we should be prepared.
 
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jonasquinn said:
I would argue that "Doom looks a little bad and might have to spend an action addressing that rather than fucking with you for once" isn't a huge impact
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It kinda is, because it means the PR impact was big enough for him to have to go on the defense on it in the first place.

I proposed setting multiple things on fire at once to push him on the defensive on multiple fronts. Your guys' only plan was just to expose someone the general public doesn't really know that much about, at a time when he is publicly going through a police restructuring, when he is already sailing fairly well on good PR for being anti-Toon and pro-Super (since those are popular positions), on top of having not really a phenomenal roll comparitively.
 
Might be Candace. Her relationship with Jeremy is over, and she once spent a day as a ninja. Also, if anyone in the world could understand her obsession with busting her brothers, it'd be Tobe. He'd just mentally file it under "rivalry" and nod along in commiseration.
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
I mean, I built my plan for synergy against Doom. You can't just expect to put one measley attack on a KING and expect it to do much. You need to hit hard from multiple different angles. Don't go halfway trying to damage a King and you expect large results.
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PyrrosWarrior said:
It kinda is, because it means the PR impact was big enough for him to have to go on the defense on it in the first place.

I proposed setting multiple things on fire at once to push him on the defensive on multiple fronts. Your guys' only plan was just to expose someone the general public doesn't really know that much about, at a time when he is publicly going through a police restructuring, when he is already sailing fairly well on good PR for being anti-Toon and pro-Super (since those are popular positions), on top of having not really a phenomenal roll comparitively.
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Oh god yes. Exposing Hawk is probably the least useful thing we could've done to him. I'm including letting Doom dump him in a six-foot deep retirement home among those options since at least the latter could provide actionable dirt eventually.
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
May I offer you a sickle in the race as we bring the revolutionary monster proletariat to rise against their corporate overlords and end the horrific treatment of children? :V
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Why, that sounds like a noble and altogether worthwhile use of -

...waiiiiit a second.

WE'RE a corporate overlord! Nice try, communism, but you'll have to try a little harder than that to pull one over on THIS dystopia!
 
If we are fucking with Doom next turn, I would like for it to not just be with Kitsune. In theory, we could devote our next Martial, Diplomacy and Intrigue actions against Doom since we don't particularly have anything on fire at the moment, and we have some decent heroes for the job. An all in assault out of nowhere after this lukewarm conflict could actually put us fairly ahead.

Discredit Doom by publicizing some of his more grave crimes against Toons with one Diplo action plus whatever other PR weapons we can use with the other, like the fact that he caused the attack on his own police department. Get both Intrigue actions to sabotage him, Kitsune on more direct methods and Russ on organizing an allied front in the city, hopefully made from a Toon core with the intent of expanding to sympathizers. Bolster this front by organizing a direct black-ops raid on Cogs facilities with Khan, and hope this new organization can capitalize. It's also possible the Stewardship action to develop new vehicles could also help with this by damaging Cloverleaf stock, but that's a reach.

I think we could actually do some quite serious damage to Doom next turn, which is to our advantage. If we just keep trading as we were before this that's good for us since we will lose much sooner than us. Most likely, it would force him into desperation; which while it could make him more dangerous, also makes him much more vulnerable and prone to failure. So I think it should be a legitimate priority next turn.
 
Hmm... it doesn't look like we unlocked to many new useful options. I mean a few sure, but nothings jumping out as something we have to research next turn.

I'm kind of happy about that. Maybe we can finally start knocking stuff out instead of a ever expanding tech tree.

We could probably start planning what we want to do next turn now.

Who we might assign to stuff might change based on the new heroes, but the actions are largely the same as this turn. With some noted dc reductions.
 
Idea for Collaborate with Judge Doom:

Have a high Diplo unit bring "Comedize your Supply Line" to the table.

Then send high Intrigue and/or Stewardship heroes to cancel out the bullshit they try to pull.

This mess would require +2 heroes to pull off but having Doom make the freeway Toon friendly would be hilarious
 
I say it could be one of the employes. Ling ling (althought they were married bias mind control). Or even Momakase.

Who knows it could be anyone.
 
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