DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

Olivebirdy · Sep 1, 2022

bigking321 said:
You are probably right.

But collaborating with them earns goodwill between our two companies.

They are the closest thing to a straight up ally we have. It would be nice to keep that momentum going. Plus if we collaborate it increases the chances of a crit and gives us the benefits of completing it.

Plus it's another media move so it should boost us in that sector. And we can control the timing of it so that we can optimize doing another media move by releasing Peter Pan.

I'm not saying it's a high priority. Just that there are several reasons to do it.

Was someone talking about doing that collab with them? It feels like the topic came out of nowhere unless I missed it being brought up.

Topic came up when I was discussing potential moves with someone else, I heard that Thread was interested in the Golden Oldies collab, so I figured I'd drop my argument against it here.

In a void, it's not a bad thing to do, but it would be instead of two other Diplomacy actions, so if we're getting the main benefit automatically, it's better to focus on more pressing things. Collabing with the Feds on Wasteland terraforming, moon base, Negaduck prep. Collaboration with Shego on the Wasteland drug dealers, expanding toon operations to Japan. We've got enough to do in Diplomacy with higher returns.

We were also discussing Diecast. Would a collab with Olympia mean we split the Standing? We each go up one instead of us bounding up two? Do we both go up two levels? If so, if Olympia is already at level 3, we'll start getting a -10 to all robotics rolls. If, instead, we decide to go with just Wendy and Smarty, does Smarty take a chunk of our Standing and Income?

Penguinbowler · Sep 1, 2022

Since I'm really excited for Forecast and a potential Celena recruitment after it, I decided to review every Queen of Mewni and try to guess their stats, as well as give a rundown and what possible Narrative Roles they could have.

(Almost) Every Queen Primary Stat is gonna be Occult, since Duh, I will bring up notable secondary stats or if their occult is really, really notable

Living Queens:

We know she's alive and are actively searching for her. While she lacks the Wand the Axe she's wielding plus her Hero Card shows that her Martial is really good. Has felt pretty guilty about monsters lot in life. Other then that She's Star Butterfly, foolhardy and hyper-active, though the past... dear god is it 7 years now(?), she has spent on the run has probably caused some level of perspective shifting in her life

Very likely dead, but theres a small chance she is Alive. Old Enemy of Toffee since he killed her mother, she was forced to ascend to the throne as a child and has a worldview shaped by that. Dislikes Monsters since she blames them for her mothers death, I would probably say... Stewardship or Intrigue as her next highest stat?She's Pretty Pragmatic and terrified of losing her family. If she is alive uniting her with her daughter would be a good way to save us some time

The Queen of Darkness, she is one of the character I feel even for a Queen of Mewni would have really, really high occult. The issue is that she has negative stewardship. Despite this getting her to replace Toffee If/When we kill him is a good idea; she would be the best bet at calming tensions between the Monsters and Mewmans. She is... wacky, even moreso then Star. Not likely to be an active player right now, we'd have to either kill toffee or break into the Crystal Prison Dimension to free her

Miss Heinous, Daughter of Eclipsa, she is the half monster Butterfly who caused the original Butterfly line to be replaced. She was sent to live with the sociopathic Saint Olga who forces her to repress... everything; she ran a reform school where she inflicted similar amounts of abuse on other dimensions royalty. Til Marco deposed of her at least. The bad news is since Toffee was never defeated, she is still hunting for Princess Turdina (Marco). The good news is this also means she hasn't completely snapped after realising that instead of being raised as royalty, she was horrifically abused by a sociopathic machine! Stewardship is probably her best stat as Heinous, switches to martial if she ever embraces her old identity

DEAD QUEENS:

I'll be honest; she is almost completely Irrelevant. She was a colonist on the boat that got yeeted to Mewni, Glossarycks gave her a wand that was Meteora's baby rattle, set up the dynasty(s). No idea what her stats could be.

An Ancient Mewni Queen, went insane and abdicated after her mewberty eyes never stopped and made it so she saw in other dimensions 24-7. No idea what stats she'd have

Skywynne's mother and possibly the worst queen mewni ever had. Abdicated since she was bored; shitty mom responsible for a large amount of Skywynne's problems. Left the first book at the castle in a fire making it why the previous queens we know little about. Probably Diplo from Fashion?

One of the more powerful and most responible Queens, her success and failures shaped Mewni as we know it. Feeling like she had to be a great queen after her Mom. She was mostly focused on furthering the magic one can use (Including a spell that removed gravity from the planet); though her decision to stop magicing up food in favor of farming started a lot of the Mewni/Monster conflict as she took their lands for farming. She also really wanted her son to take over and break Mewni's societal norms, but eventually she caved and had a Daughter. In hindsight probably a bad idea. Probably Stewardship or Learning, and really, really high occult

Jushtin is weird. Not only for being a dude. Not only for being the only queen to never technically be queen. But also because his Occult is actually pretty mediorce. Origanally heavilly pushed by his mother to take the throne, a mixture of the Mewmans conservatism and his own lack of interest in magic would lead to Skywynne relenting and having a daughter. If Jushtin did take the throne though, Mewni's history would be dramatically altered forever. An amazing Diplomat (And Mathmatician) Jushtin managed to forge alliances with multiple monster families such as the Pony Heads and Lucitors. It's very likely the repeated genocides could have been avoided if he took the throne. Occult is likely 1 or 2 stars max, has great diplo and learning though

The other reason Jushtin taking the throne would have prevented oh so much hardship in hindsight. The Monster Carver, Solaria pursued a genocidal campaign against monsters, even trying to encourage her daughter Eclipsa to do the same. She only had a kid to sire an heir btw, she was disinterested in romance. Eventually she died on campaign, but one of her spells designed to make Mewmans Super-Human gave way to Mina Loveberry. Mina Loveberry is possibly one of, if not the, worst possible people to replace Toffee after he is overthrown. Solaria would of course have Martial as her highest non-occult stat

The replacement for Meteora, Festivia was a baby abandoned by her con artist family who was nabbed by the Magic High Commission and raised to believe she was Eclipsa's Daughter. She was widly regarded as a pretty good Queen, one who despite partying a lot still fulfilled her duties. Her design was also based off Orphic Dionysus which is based. Probably Diplomacy as her next highest after occult

The other butterfly who is terrible at occult, Dirhhennia seemed to have a series of mental and developmental disabilities (She never underwent Mewberty for instance). She was eventually passed up for her younger sister Crescenta.

She is the gal who put Ludo's family in charge of monsters. A fairly well beloved Queen, actually a massive jerk who wanted the throne and regurally manipulated people. She was also in a WLW relationship that got in universe Academia Erased. Probably Intrigue as her next highest

A Queen with a love for Riddles, a bit of absentmindedness, and a real shitty love life, Rhina is probably decently relevant as a background piece just because she'll make Tom and Celena's relationship a bit more awkward. Asexual to the point she had to use a love spell on herself to get her to go through with the political marriage with John Roachly, a cousin of the Lucitors, her was fairly abusive and she accidently killed him when her heartbreak spell was a bit to literal. Also loved Riddles. Probably Learning as her next highest stat.

The girl, Celena was a very secreative Queen. Glossarycks revealed she had a way with tarot cards, and she also was a great Enchanter and Potion Maker. Aso unlike Tom if she has monstrous characteristics from her Demonic Father, she hid them using Magic. She also knows the way to the Realm of Magic, which is uh... very very important to defeating Toffee (He's literally unkillable, even to spells meant to kill him, as he is connected to the Wellspring and therefore the Realm). She was very Shy, and had a lot of secrets. She was also pestered with Suitors; though she did have a daughter eventually I don't think she ever married. We already know her second highest stat is Intrigue from her Hero Card.

Celena's kid, just as Shy. Never talked much instead focusing entirely on art. Approved of her kid's desires for helping everyone get fed. She did very, very little as queen which made her popular because Mewmans are trash. Probably Diplo

Moon's mother and the one Queen other then Jushtin or Eclipsa trying to make shit better. She died very early into her reign because she was working to make amends and bridge the gap between Mewmans and Monsters. This did not sit right with a genocidal maniac named Toffee, who wanted Mewman and monster relationships to be bad so he could get what was in his mind, vengence. So he killed her during a diplomatic meeting. As you can imagine this scarred her young daughter Moon a lot; and caused Monster Mewman relations to nosedive. Probably Diplomacy

KidFromPallet · Sep 1, 2022

Penguinbowler said:
Moon the Undaunted

I'd argue that her second highest stat would probably be Martial, given that a) If I'm remembering right she was directly commanding Mewnian troops in the war vs Toffee and b) she just comes from a pretty Martial-heavy background in general (see her and River's families doing the yearly no-holds-barred capture the flag event). Also, I'd say her third-highest stat would likely be Diplo, although I'm a bit shaky on that. I'm basing that off the fact that she appears to have a pretty high adoration rating among Mewni citizens.

I just don't really remember her displaying much Stewardship, with examples like her paying the school principal with a treasure chest full of gems/gold in the opening episode and the Mewnian peasantry still being pretty much caricatures of medieval peasants. And where Intrigue's concerned, while she does keep more than her share of secrets, her showing of getting tricked/used by the final antagonist of the show doesn't particularly paint it as a strong point of hers.

I dunno, it's been a while since I've seen the show, so I might be missing something. But those are my thoughts.

woweed · Sep 1, 2022

Penguinbowler said:
Jushtin is weird. Not only for being a dude. Not only for being the only queen to never technically be queen. But also because his Occult is actually pretty mediorce. Origanally heavilly pushed by his mother to take the throne, a mixture of the Mewmans conservatism and his own lack of interest in magic would lead to Skywynne relenting and having a daughter. If Jushtin did take the throne though, Mewni's history would be dramatically altered forever. An amazing Diplomat (And Mathmatician) Jushtin managed to forge alliances with multiple monster families such as the Pony Heads and Lucitors. It's very likely the repeated genocides could have been avoided if he took the throne. Occult is likely 1 or 2 stars max, has great diplo and learning though

I would also expect a decent Stewardship. Remember, Stewardship also includes general logic and the like.

Penguinbowler · Sep 1, 2022

woweed said:
I would also expect a decent Stewardship. Remember, Stewardship also includes general logic and the like.

Jushtin stated he really wasn't interested in ruling when asked his opinions on giving the throne to his sister. I imagine he'd have a bit but probably less then most of the queens who actually ruled... though considering his competition includes people like Star, Eclipsa, and Estrella maybe it would be high in comparison.

KidFromPallet said:
I'd argue that her second highest stat would probably be Martial, given that a) If I'm remembering right she was directly commanding Mewnian troops in the war vs Toffee and b) she just comes from a pretty Martial-heavy background in general (see her and River's families doing the yearly no-holds-barred capture the flag event). Also, I'd say her third-highest stat would likely be Diplo, although I'm a bit shaky on that. I'm basing that off the fact that she appears to have a pretty high adoration rating among Mewni citizens.

I just don't really remember her displaying much Stewardship, with examples like her paying the school principal with a treasure chest full of gems/gold in the opening episode and the Mewnian peasantry still being pretty much caricatures of medieval peasants. And where Intrigue's concerned, while she does keep more than her share of secrets, her showing of getting tricked/used by the final antagonist of the show doesn't particularly paint it as a strong point of hers.

I dunno, it's been a while since I've seen the show, so I might be missing something. But those are my thoughts.

Thats fair, it was in part me just trying to find someone other then Skywynne who might have a large amount of Stewardship. Martial should absolutely be her secondary stat in this case.

GrayGriffin · Sep 1, 2022

Wasn't Xanatos' T3 infiltration the result of us constantly telling him everything ourselves during our meetings with him? I remember that being brought up during the mind quest.

mangawriter77 · Sep 1, 2022

GrayGriffin said:
Wasn't Xanatos' T3 infiltration the result of us constantly telling him everything ourselves during our meetings with him? I remember that being brought up during the mind quest.

Yeah, but then we stopped telling him stuff and it was bumped down to T2, which means one of our hero units is compromised.

Penguinbowler · Sep 1, 2022

mangawriter77 said:
Yeah, but then we stopped telling him stuff and it was bumped down to T2, which means one of our hero units is compromised.

Or that Doof is still telling him shit, just not the actually important stuff.

Lab_Accident · Sep 1, 2022

Penguinbowler said:
Or that Doof is still telling him shit, just not the actually important stuff.

No, I asked.

Lab_Accident said:
Can we just... Stop feeding Xanatos Tier 2 information? Is that an option?

Made in Heaven said:
You have stopped feeding him information. That's why he's not at Tier 3.

Xanatos has moles in our company that we didn't catch in the first sweep, possibly one or our Hero spying for him. Possibly even Mez, which would be a good reason on why she didn't find his moles.

And considering that the Blot didn't brag about stealing our Zero Point Technology, and he went to great pains to monologue about his Evil Plan...

Shade31415 · Sep 1, 2022

I mean we know that the infiltration networks don't need a hero directly infiltrating in the network, so we might not have a hero unit working for someone else and it's just the inactive infilitration.

Lab_Accident · Sep 1, 2022

Shade31415 said:
I mean we know that the infiltration networks don't need a hero directly infiltrating in the network, so we might not have a hero unit working for someone else and it's just the inactive infilitration.

That's a possibility. That said, I am growing increasingly suspicious that Xanatos was the one to steal our Zero Point Technology (Blot did not brag about it, and he made a point of bragging about everything else), and that sounds like the sort of "higher reward" that you could get from having an assigned Hero.

BurnBright · Sep 1, 2022

Shade31415 said:
I mean we know that the infiltration networks don't need a hero directly infiltrating in the network, so we might not have a hero unit working for someone else and it's just the inactive infilitration.

Or they can have an active hero assigned, but not directly present, like what would happen if we assigned Agent Russ to Doom.

MrCogmor · Sep 1, 2022

Maybe the mole is Speckles from G-Force. Maybe the government stole the tech once they realized we had it. Maybe Xanatos stole it. Maybe Royal Pain stole it. Maybe it is the revenge of LOVE MUFFIN. Okay maybe not that last one. There is not much point in speculating I'd we aren't going to do anything about it.

Penguinbowler · Sep 1, 2022

The DEI Forums react: Alan's report

AlanOne@DEI.doof said:
@Lee.Janus@DEI.doof So sorry about the delays, the good news is PROJECT:SPARK's preparations are almost complete, several interns from other departments have offered to help with setting up the space needed for it; we should be able to start proper around March.

IKnowWhatWereGoingToDoToday@DEI.doof" said:
Hey, great work Alan; we knew you could do it!

ProfessionalWitch@DEI.doof" said:
Ah man I had money on you losing Wendy's report. Guess I owe Tom $20 since you're not apparently cursed.

ProfessionalWitch@DEI.doof" said:
I told you Janna, if he was cursed I would be able to detect it when you made that bet!

LifeOfMax@DEI.doof" said:
Why did you double post... it's the staff isn't it.

He does know that since your most likely holding him right now he doesn't have to respond via text right?

JanusLee@LeeInd.doof said:
We're behind schedule but at the very least we shouldn't expect any further interruptions. Remind me when Ms Lindholme gets back to make her go through training again; her report was very misleading. We can't mess this up. I'll send some more people from Ludivine's Lab once were done clearing it of all Flubber research. (She saw it fit to defend her lab with several high powered Laser Cannons we've been slowly disarming)

PrinceOfHell@DEI.doof said:
oh yeah janna owes me money now

PrinceOfHell has been Kicked from the Thread

JanusLee@LeeInd.doof said:
You don't work here Tom, these are the official, DEI corporate forums. The fact you still have an account is due to the Doctor forgetting his Admin password and hasn't been able to get it back.

And speaking of corporate policy, am I the only one actually following the rules? We should be using our actual names here.

World'sSmartestDuck@DEI.doof said:
I you just gave me de keys to muh lab, I could unlock it for you? Who do yah even have ta disarm dah lasers?"

SuperAwesomeNinjaProfessional@DEI.doof said:
Good News Sensei Janus, we have finished our training and ready to enter the Lab! Say the word and the Vagabonds will begin using our elite ninja skills to find the Flubber research! Also why are you telling Tom he doesn't work here after you kicked him?

WileECoyoteGenius@ACME.doof said:
Ah, "Disarm". At the very least you should invite her to watch Lee. I might take time out of my schedule to attend.

MrMoseby@DEI.doof said:
Please don't use them Mr. Lee; if you do they will inevitably track blood all over the Lobby

E.M.P@DEI.doof said:
Janus don't use the Vagabonds. If they're hospitalised we'll have to completely redo the upcoming plans for the second quarter. I'll see if Technor, Juniper and Gomez are able to get into the lab. As for Alan good job, we might be behind but at the very least we can get the program started up by the time Wendy returns.

JanusLee@LeeInd.doof said:
1. No, 2. Irrelevant, 3. No, 4. No, 5. I'll make sure the generics go first. BTW @WileECoyoteGenius@ACME.doof come to LOVEMUFFINs old Lab later, I got a surprise for you.

AntQueen@DEI.doof said:
@IKnowWhatWereGoingToDoToday@DEI.doof

He failed why are you congratulating him? He always fails.

Goofy@DEI.doof said:
Gawrsh Lizzy, don't you think thats kind of harsh?

MistressOfMIrage@DEI.doof said:
I mean she isn't wrong is she? My first experience with Alan was him walking into the Velociraptor pen; and from the personal files I dug up he failed almost everything else he tried since he started working here.

Rod-Inazor@DEIPrison.doof said:
Yes He Always fails; simply because he is attempting projects that LOVEMUFFIN should have been doing. I assure you if I was leading this project it would succeed!

Rod-Inazor has been muted for the next 60 days

Rod-Inazor has been kicked from the thread

JanusLee@LeeInd.doof said:
Ok Mez when you get back we're having you give all the records you took from DEI back.

As for the rest I feel this thread has run its course. I thank you for your report Alan; I'm closing the thread

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Lab_Accident · Sep 1, 2022

MrCogmor said:
Maybe the mole is Speckles from G-Force. Maybe the government stole the tech once they realized we had it. Maybe Xanatos stole it. Maybe Royal Pain stole it. Maybe it is the revenge of LOVE MUFFIN. Okay maybe not that last one. There is not much point in speculating I'd we aren't going to do anything about it.

I'd argue there's a lot of point in speculating about it if we don't want it happening again, this time with tech we actually care about. And that's only for physical tech like the gloves, if that spy has been copying and passing on our research files, we won't even realize it's gone.

I'm speculating based on probability: we just conducted a security sweep that caught almost all the Level 2 moles, the only ones left are Xanatos and Russ, and Russ wasn't around to steal it at the time.

sunsunsunsunsun · Sep 1, 2022

Penguinbowler said:
Rod-Inazor has been kicked from the thread

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Some of the quotes seem to have been eaten, starting with E.M.P. who I assume is Lizzy?

Penguinbowler · Sep 1, 2022

sunsunsunsunsun said:
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Some of the quotes seem to have been eaten, starting with E.M.P. who I assume is Lizzy?
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fixed

Shade31415 · Sep 1, 2022

Janus: insists on professionalism and normality

Also Janus things:

Penguinbowler said:
Also why are you telling Tom he doesn't work here after you kicked him?

Lab_Accident · Sep 1, 2022

Shade31415 said:
Janus: insists on professionalism and normality

Also Janus things:

Neither Janus nor Mirage are as serious as they like to pretend they are. You don't paint your hair silver and call yourself "Mirage" without having a flair for the dramatic, and Janus, well. The less said about him the better.

Lab_Accident · Sep 2, 2022

Uuuuh, guys? Very sorry for the double post, but I just had a (Big) idea.

Alan's bare success halved the DC for Civilian AI, so the DC going forwards is now 60. And a Stewardship DC 60 is in range for an 100% CoS chance with Phineas and Ferb, which will be available the turn after next. If we're willing to wait a turn on it, we can get an auto Crit Success on a Capstone Action.

And the craziest part? Alan would be technically responsible for a Critical Success!

bigking321 · Sep 2, 2022

🤔...

...alright. You've talked me into it.

We at least need to do a write in to give Alan co-credit. And to credit Wendy for cracking AI to begin with.

Poor Alan. He finally didn't fail horribly and it makes sense for someone else to finish it off.

SuspiciousBird · Sep 2, 2022

Is there any way we can have Alan and P&F work together on it actively?

Fuck, it even works as a P&F episode. While they're at the internship for the day they happen to run into a depressed and down-on-his-luck Alan, who's been struggling with this AI concept for months now and hasn't quite had the breakthrough he needs.

"Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today."

Then there's a montage of them trying out wacky ways of trying to inspire Alan—probably with a song—and then right at the end it finally clicks and they wrap up the work together.

It'd be a bit like that one episode where they got the band back together.

mangawriter77 · Sep 2, 2022

SuspiciousBird said:
Is there any way we can have Alan and P&F work together on it actively?

Fuck, it even works as a P&F episode. While they're at the internship for the day they happen to run into a depressed and down-on-his-luck Alan, who's been struggling with this AI concept for months now and hasn't quite had the breakthrough he needs.

"Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today."

Then there's a montage of them trying out wacky ways of trying to inspire Alan—probably with a song—and then right at the end it finally clicks and they wrap up the work together.

It'd be a bit like that one episode where they got the band back together.

Hmmmm... @Arathnorn, any comment on the possibility of this?

BurnBright · Sep 2, 2022

Lab_Accident said:
Uuuuh, guys? Very sorry for the double post, but I just had a (Big) idea.

Alan's bare success halved the DC for Civilian AI, so the DC going forwards is now 60. And a Stewardship DC 60 is in range for an 100% CoS chance with Phineas and Ferb, which will be available the turn after next. If we're willing to wait a turn on it, we can get an auto Crit Success on a Capstone Action.

And the craziest part? Alan would be technically responsible for a Critical Success!

Ugh. And with XP, it's even an autopass. The problem is, well. It involves both delaying Civilian AI one turn and then taking it from Alan, at least to an extent.

bigking321 · Sep 2, 2022

SuspiciousBird said:
Is there any way we can have Alan and P&F work together on it actively?

Fuck, it even works as a P&F episode. While they're at the internship for the day they happen to run into a depressed and down-on-his-luck Alan, who's been struggling with this AI concept for months now and hasn't quite had the breakthrough he needs.

"Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today."

Then there's a montage of them trying out wacky ways of trying to inspire Alan—probably with a song—and then right at the end it finally clicks and they wrap up the work together.

It'd be a bit like that one episode where they got the band back together.

I think mechanically it's impossible.

But if we have Alan do his personal and make a appeal to the Qms it might be flavored that because of P&F coming in and helping to jump start the AI process he finally had time to work on ???.

DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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