[X] Interlude: Finalize Rune Mechanics

Runes that still need mechanics
Hazō completes the Icarus Rune! [Mechanics TBD].
Hazō completes the Air-Leadening Rune! Mechanics: [TBD]

Tentative mechanics that need finalizing
Hazō completes the Iron Earth Rune! TENTATIVE mechanics*
@RandomOTP had an alternative proposal for this one.
In a stroke of luck, Hazō completes the Force Dome Rune! TENTATIVE mechanics:
Hazō completes the Storm Rune! TENTATIVE* mechanics:
Hazō completes the Remote Explosive 2.0! Tentative mechanics

QM questions that need answers
Alright problem with the Rift Assualt plan, each RER will take at least 125 units of substrate which is more than will fit into a storage seal.


@eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien


Can Hazou preshape runic blanks and divide them into chunks that can be stored and recombined later with a drastically shortened ES time? Say 10 minutes or so.


Also did Hazou ever get access to storage seals with larger capacities? Either from the Tower Seals or Jiriaya's hoard? I'm not asking for the full dump just if there's this one specifc thing in there we need.


EDIT: This is a strange question but how much can a chakra-enhanced Hazou deadlift? If he can pick the blanks up he can shape them on the Seventh Path and Unsummon holding them.


125 pt blank - 312.5 kg (689 lbs) natty powerlifters can do this so he should be good IMO

625 pt blank - 1562.5 kg (3445 lbs) this is about 3.5x more than the strongest non-chakra enhanced (they do steroids) humans can do. It is plausible that Hazou can do this but not certain by any means.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped


Can a RE2.0 destroy a metre-thick wall? what if that wall is reinforced with a force wall behind it? What if we use 5 simultaneous RE2.0s?
SS note: We don't have the substrate to attempt that

If such overwhelming explosives can destroy a wall, will the explosion threaten anyone hiding behind it? Would they save vs full or reduced TN?


Hazou should have the means to run this test without to much difficulty, but that should be unnecessary given Kagome's expertise in explosions and fortification.
A resolution to the ACE debate?
I think this date has already been chosen before that. Here is a message from EJ mid-December that states Nob's ACE would be done in April.

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'What do you think, sensei?' was a thing that Hazō didn't bother to ask, since his teacher was cackling and bouncing from foot to foot in delight.
I love and share Kagome's excitement here. EXPLOSIONS!

Blowing things up was great. Blowing things up far away, even greater.
Couldn't have put it any better myself.

Hazō's smile was knives and fire. "Oh, not everyone lives," he said quietly. "I have a bone to pick with Hidan for what happened at Bakuchioka."
Itachi must also die. No one tells Gouketsu Hazou what he isn't allowed to research. I'm flexible on the other members of Akatsuki.
 
This was a lovely chapter. It really brings together the sense of progress and completion we've been building towards all this arc.
"It worked," he said, relief saturating his voice. "The rift scar has been decoupled from its environment and is drifting. Very, very slowly, but it is."
Huh, so that's how it works. I'll admit I didn't have a very clear model of what this rune was supposed to do, but I figured it was, like, some kind of ongoing effect instead of a proper alteration of the rift itself.

...When all's said and done, we'll probably need to make a rift re-anchoring rune, aren't we? Just to make sure we don't manage to lose track of the afterlife rift.
"Hm. Looks like it hit about ten yards to the left of target 4," Kagome-sensei said, peering through his telescope at the far-off cluster of rocks that they had been using for target practice. Hazō had been aiming for the white rock with the number 13 painted on it, around forty yards forwards and to the right of where the blast had actually struck.
Hmmm, is this going to prove a problem for our assault? It'd be really bad if we alerted them to our presence before we could start getting attacks off.
 
Hmmm, is this going to prove a problem for our assault? It'd be really bad if we alerted them to our presence before we could start getting attacks off.
Not any more than we already knew and were planning around. Ten yards is, in an unremarkable outdoors environment, not going to be more than one Zone away. So yes, but the solution is more RERs rather than fixing a fundamental limitation on an otherwise ridiculously-OP rune.

Both Air Leadening and Icarus, as well as all of the TENTATIVE mechanics we've been seeing. There's no real way to plan an encounter with Akatsuki without knowing exactly what we can do.

There are also more than a couple pending QM questions we need answered.
I suspect us providing a concrete list would help with spoons/memory.
 
I think we can probably do an action plan to meet Orochimaru and receive his report of the situation before we get those rune mechanics. Although probably the very next update would be planning our attack with him, for which we need those mechanics. I'm just assuming voting will open after Orochimaru tells us what's going on, because that's usually the way it works.
 
[X] Action Plan: What's The Situation Over Here?
Wordcount <400
Duration: travel time + up to 48 hours.
  • Sanity check with uplift
  • Split into two teams.
  • Intel team: (Mari, Kagome, Kei/Snowflake, Tenten)
    • Go to Fire to figure out what the current situation is
    • Priority 1: Don't get caught
    • Priority 2: Learn if it's safe to make contact with Naruto, and why Orochimaru went missing again.
      • If you can quickly and discreetly contact(or abduct and interrogate) info dealers or ninja, consider doing so. We need intel fast.
      • Naruto might be incapacitated or under extreme Akatsuki surveillance. But if he isn't, we need a discrete way to make contact ASAP.
        • Making contact with Shikamaru also counts
    • If you can safely make contact with Naruto, brief him on our relevant runes (Force Dome, Iron Earth, RE2.0, ninjadar, Rift Runes), and our contact with Orochimaru, then ask for orders.
    • If you can't safely make contact with Naruto, report what you've learned to Hazou via 7th path, and move to link up with Hazou+Orochimaru on the way to Todoroki Shrine.
  • Rice team: (Hazou, Noburi, Yuno)
    • Before heading to Rice: Return Gamahebigai with the message "Received. ETA [time it takes Intel team to get to Fire +2 days]. Prefabricate and store several thousand substrate units. Can we expect Leaf support during/after the assault? Please treat Gamahebigai as comfortably as possible."
    • Entrust Cannai our old notes of completed PS research and ~100 points of substrate.
      • This stuff is potentially reality-endingly dangerous(!), but might be needed for reality-saving as well.
      • Hold onto it in case something happens to us, but use very careful judgment before sharing it.
      • Go to Rice and set up a secure (SCSA+skytower) camp ~50 miles from the meeting site with Oro.
    • Noburi sky-runs over Turtle to Slug. The stakes are high enough to warrant skywalkers.
      • Have Akai try to contact Tsunade and ask WTF is going on, while Noburi skywalks ready to bug out if Tsunade gets violent.
        • If she's there, confirm the Leaf situation and let her know that we have strategically-transformative runes.
        • If either Tsunade or Naruto are able to help for a rift assault, tell her [all the stuff the Intel team wants to tell Naruto].
      • If Noburi thinks it would go better, have Kei do this instead (swap Kei+Tenten with Noburi+Yuno)
    • Wait for word from Intel team.
  • End the update when the Intel team gets in contact with Naruto/Shikamaru (or deems it infeasible), misses a check-in, or spends more than 48hours in Fire trying to make contact.
 
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Sure, I'll edit a list in before voting closes. Ping me if you have something you want on it
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped

Can a RE2.0 destroy a metre-thick wall? what if that wall is reinforced with a force wall behind it? What if we use 5 simultaneous RE2.0s?

If such overwhelming explosives can destroy a wall, will the explosion threaten anyone hiding behind it? Would they save vs full or reduced TN?

Hazou should have the means to run this test without to much difficulty, but that should be unnecessary given Kagome's expertise in explosions and fortification.
 
[X] Action Plan: What's The Situation Over Here?
Wordcount <400
Duration: travel time + up to 48 hours.
  • Sanity check with uplift
  • Split into two teams.
  • Intel team: (Mari, Kagome, Kei/Snowflake, Tenten)
    • Go to Fire to figure out what the current situation is
    • Priority 1: Don't get caught
    • Priority 2: Learn if it's safe to make contact with Naruto, and why Orochimaru went missing again.
      • If you can quickly and discreetly contact(or abduct and interrogate) info dealers or ninja, consider doing so. We need intel fast.
      • Naruto might be incapacitated or under extreme Akatsuki surveillance. But if he isn't, we need a discrete way to make contact ASAP.
        • Making contact with Shikamaru also counts
    • If you can safely make contact with Naruto, brief him on our relevant runes (Force Dome, Iron Earth, RE2.0, ninjadar, Rift Runes), and our contact with Orochimaru, then ask for orders.
    • If you can't safely make contact with Naruto, report what you've learned to Hazou via 7th path, and move to link up with Hazou+Orochimaru on the way to Todoroki Shrine.
  • Oro team: (Hazou, Noburi, Yuno)
    • Before heading to Rice: Return Gamahebigai with the message "Received. ETA [time it takes Intel team to get to Fire +2 days]. Prefabricate and store several thousand substrate units. Can we expect Leaf support during/after the assault? Please treat Gamahebigai as comfortably as possible."
    • Entrust Cannai our old notes of completed PS research and ~100 points of substrate.
      • This stuff is potentially reality-endingly dangerous(!), but might be needed for reality-saving as well.
      • Hold onto it in case something happens to us, but use very careful judgment before sharing it.
      • Go to Rice and set up a secure (SCSA+skytower) camp ~50 miles from the meeting site with Oro.
    • Noburi sky-runs over Turtle to Slug. The stakes are high enough to warrant skywalkers.
      • Have Akai try to contact Tsunade and ask WTF is going on, while Noburi skywalks ready to bug out if Tsunade gets violent.
        • If she's there, confirm the Leaf situation and let her know that we have strategically-transformative runes.
        • If either Tsunade or Naruto are able to help for a rift assault, tell her [all the stuff the Intel team wants to tell Naruto].
      • If Noburi thinks it would go better, have Kei do this instead (swap Kei+Tenten with Noburi+Yuno)
    • Wait for word from Intel team.
  • End the update when the Intel team gets in contact with Naruto/Shikamaru (or deems it infeasible), misses a check-in, or spends more than 48hours in Fire trying to make contact.
This plan seems like it wastes a ton of time intel-gathering when we should be preparing for the Rift Assualt. If Oro is acting in good faith this is a total waste of time and potentially compromises the mission.
 
This plan seems like is wastes a ton of time intel-gathering when we should be preparing for the Rift Assualt. If Oro is acting in good faith this is a total waste of time and potentially compromises the mission.
"Just assume Oro will be prosocial and collaborative" isn't a great plan.
It would be very convenient if he is, but it's definitely definitely a risky assumption.

If Oro isn't acting in good faith, that completely screws the mission. So we'll spend a hard max of 48 hours checking if that's the case before we help him win the setting.
 
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Hazō's smile was knives and fire. "Oh, not everyone lives," he said quietly. "I have a bone to pick with Hidan for what happened at Bakuchioka."
I sadly very literally don't have time to write a full reaction post (something about kids writing "you is" and thinking a question that starts with "what" warrants an answer that starts with "because") but I had to swoon at this line. He will pay.
 
Yes we are completely screwed if he isn't acting in good faith. Better hope he is. There's nothing we can do about it at this point.
There's lots of things we can do about it.

Most likely option is forcing his hand to play ball with Leaf. This might be showing up to the meeting point like "great news! I got in contact with Naruto, he and Tsunade are setting out to meet us near the rift!". It might mean having Tsunade show up to the meeting point alongside us. There's a lot of possible versions.

Or maybe it means letting Oro attack the rift site first, then jumping out afterwards and attacking whoever survived.

It's a difficult position, but not "give up" amounts of difficult.
 
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Okay I have a question. One of the QMs posted a timeline of our research that took well over 2 months before we figured out this rift rune. Where on that timeline (or before or after it) did we get the message from Orochimaru via Toad?

Or in other words, How much time has passed since we got that message? I'm a bit unclear about the order of events atm.
 
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