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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Sir Stompy said:
[X] Action Plan: Chakra SCIENCE
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  • Seal up some 'vores for later study
  • Return to the grotto and start investigating the pool
  • Set up a TR 125
  • The research team (Noburi, Hazou, Kagome) will, using Vampiric Dew, chakrascope and MS8...
    • Examine everyone's chakra system and chakra regeneration, before/during/after they enter the pool. Have unaffected people make SCs and test the effects on them.
    • Summon someone and test the effect of the pool on Summons. Same monitoring protocol.
    • Noburi, can you tell the difference between human and nature chakra here? However, do NOT drain it.
    • Noburi goes in last, he should first discern if the pool would have a deleterious effect on his chakra system
    • Test if using the pool water in Noburi's barrel has any effect.
    • Does Noburi think he could replicate the effects of the pool with his bloodline/medical ninjutsu?
    • If the water is determined to be non-chakra containing, store some and test it on a unaffected party member outside the grotto
  • Cast ES on the statue of the chakravore made by draining Candoru. See if there's anything interesting about it.
  • Cast ES on the grotto, smooth out the gaps in the the plugged tunnels, look for any strange sources of chakra in the rock. Try to identify the older markings in the walls. Make one for Uplift.
    • Hazou doesn't think this will casue golems to attack, but be on guard for them. Be combat ready w/ skywalkers on ready to flee.
  • Cast ES also on the statue of the chakravore made by draining Candoru. See if there's anything interesting about it.
  • Look for any fungi and plants with medical properties. Consult Orochimaru's dossier
  • Spend a day mutithreading prep days on runes to replicate the pool's effects.
    • Water Rune, Chakra Soothing Rune, Soothing Field Rune, and Crystal Recreation Rune
    • Do additional prep days if Noburi/Kagome have alternative ideas
    • Get Noburi's help with the prep days.
  • Hazou should start FOOMing again with spare chakra from pool savings.
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Can I suggest that you put a short intended duration on this and/or start a couple of DotB cycles? The sooner we start, the sooner we'll have TR150, have Force Domes, know the details of Remote Explosive and if it works in practice, etc. Example research section:
  • Research:
    • DotB: TR150, reroll for safety.
    • DotB: Force Domes if "well within", else pivot to Remote Explosion Rune.
    • Make sure SCs use the pool on infusion days.
      • Prep any ideas Hazōpilot has to replicate the pool's effects (e.g. Water Rune, Chakra Soothing Rune, Soothing Field Rune, Crystal Recreation Rune).
      • With free days, prep [prep days].

Even if you include this, I'd also recommend limiting the plan to one cycle so we can get back difficulties on the pool replication runes and decide which one(s) to research. (I considered including no-prep-no-DotB Chakra Mapping Rune research, for veterancy and because it'd be cool to have, but not sure it'd be safe - 'Well Within' at PS 40.) Not sure what the best cycle length would be - should do at least two days of prep to provide space for the four pool-replication ideas, maybe not four.
 
[X] Action Plan: Chakra SCIENCE
[X] Training Plan Hazou: The Basics

Thinking about training plans, I notice Kei is accumulating Yamanaka XP. Is there a plan on how to spend this? (I assume it'll be used to level shadow jutsu since Kei's Resolve is already capstone, but which jutsu are we planning to level in what order?)

Also, @eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien, I think Kei's character sheet is buggy; her CotWG, CotR and WB are referring to K59 instead of K56 when they check whether leveling them is half-cost, so CotWG is showing up as half-cost when it should be full-cost.
 
Kyreneryk said:
Thinking about training plans, I notice Kei is accumulating Yamanaka XP. Is there a plan on how to spend this? (I assume it'll be used to level shadow jutsu since Kei's Resolve is already capstone, but which jutsu are we planning to level in what order?)
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We asked her what Nara jutsu are synergetic with her build, and Velorien responded with an answer, but I can't recall what it was.

We'll probably need to raise the Nara Jutsu as pyramid support for other stuff, eventually, but we'll likely just keep stockpiling Yamanaka XP until then.
 
RandomOTP said:
We asked her what Nara jutsu are synergetic with her build, and Velorien responded with an answer, but I can't recall what it was.

We'll probably need to raise the Nara Jutsu as pyramid support for other stuff, eventually, but we'll likely just keep stockpiling Yamanaka XP until then.
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Ah, it's here:
Velorien said:
Nara Clan Ninjutsu

This is a summary of Kei's potential Nara ninjutsu, to be presented to Hazō next time the two meet (unless Hazō dies before then, in which case ignore this post).

Shadow Imitation – You know it, you love it. The user's shadow stretches out to ensnare an opponent's own shadow. If the connection is made, the user can control the opponent's body, making them imitate everything the user does.
Shadow Guardians – A defensive technique that is particularly effective against ranged weapons and in single combat.
Shadow Step – An enhancement to Substitution that hinders enemy movement.
Shadow Betrayal – A moderate debuff that hinders enemy movement.
Shadow Visage – A general-purpose defensive technique.

While she cannot share more details with you (even this much is pushing it), she, as always, defers leveling decisions to you. If you do not give specific instructions, she'll make decisions of her own volition. Please vote in a Kei training plan for this coming cycle spending at least 500 XP into these ninjutsu.

In Kei's opinion, she thinks Shadow Guardians suits her style, Shadow Imitation is generally strong, and Shadow Visage is appealing personally.
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We've still only got Shadow Guardians on level 10, even though Kei said it suits her style. Problem is that Kei doesn't have enough pyramid support to raise it to a 20, though it would be a trivial cost to raise one of her miscellaneous Wind jutsu to 10 to support that - maybe Wind Shaper, which seems like a decent utility jutsu?

Also, @eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien, minor thing; I think this phrase in the description of Wind Shaper should say "Effect" and not "Level":
  • Objects have a Durability of (Level) and the appropriate number of Stress boxes, and must be destroyed individually. Destroying one of them does not affect the others.
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Otherwise at level 10 this technique produces objects as strong as a Runic Air Dome.
 
Kyreneryk said:
We've still only got Shadow Guardians on level 10, even though Kei said it suits her style. Problem is that Kei doesn't have enough pyramid support to raise it to a 20, though it would be a trivial cost to raise one of her miscellaneous Wind jutsu to 10 to support that - maybe Wind Shaper, which seems like a decent utility jutsu
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Sure, but the Yam XP isn't doing any harm and she has other stuff to level. Maybe after we get CotWG 40 and Physique 40?...
 
_The_Bomb said:
Actually, there's an updated answers floating around somewhere from when Kei was asked again about her build after gaining Orochimaru's ninjutsu.
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Found them:
eaglejarl said:
_The_Bomb said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped
  • Have Kei's thoughts on this matter changed after the Orochimaru deal?
    • Cloak of the Wind God and Whirlwind Barrier both have incredibly potent defensive capabilities.
    • Does she still think Shadow Guardians and Shadow Visage are good priorities for her to develop afterward?
  • Does Kei consider it realistic to ensnare someone like Hidan using Shadow Imitation?
    • If so…
      • What level of skill would be required to pull it off?
      • Is it something she could train to do, especially with her bloodline aiding her?
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Shadow Guardians and Shadow Visage both remain strong, though Shadow Guardians in particular may be hard to juggle with the host of other strong defensive techniques she has access to (read: require combination stunts/run into the buff-stacking cap).

If you're solely asking if it's possible – yes, but it would require jounin-level skill. As always, she would train it if Hazou suggested she do so.
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So Shadow Guardians may not be ideal, in which case maybe best to level Visage instead. Still, as Sir Stompy says, not really a thing we need to think about right now!
 
Kyreneryk said:
Also, @eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien, minor thing; I think this phrase in the description of Wind Shaper should say "Effect" and not "Level":
Otherwise at level 10 this technique produces objects as strong as a Runic Air Dome.
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@eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien is this still under discussion?
_The_Bomb said:
@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien

Now that we're off dungeon delving, I am incredibly interested in seeing whether or not Wind Shaper (the mysterious parallel to EarthShaping that Kei learned at the Library) would be a good defensive ninjutsu for her.

I noticed a detail in the ninjutsu description document that seems a little off to my understanding of game balance.

Objects have a Durability of (Level) and the appropriate number of Stress boxes, and must be destroyed individually. Destroying one of them does not affect the others.
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Would you mind confirming that these are indeed supposed to be (Level) Durability and not (AB) Durability?

Additionally, how does having multiple barrier interact with an attack? If an attack gets through your first barrier, is it weakened and plausibly able to be stopped by the second barrier? Or, is having multiple copies of the same strength barrier completely useless for purposes of defending yourself from strong attacks?
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Kyreneryk said:
[X] Action Plan: Chakra SCIENCE
[X] Training Plan Hazou: The Basics

Thinking about training plans, I notice Kei is accumulating Yamanaka XP. Is there a plan on how to spend this? (I assume it'll be used to level shadow jutsu since Kei's Resolve is already capstone, but which jutsu are we planning to level in what order?)

Also, @eaglejarl @Paperclipped @Velorien, I think Kei's character sheet is buggy; her CotWG, CotR and WB are referring to K59 instead of K56 when they check whether leveling them is half-cost, so CotWG is showing up as half-cost when it should be full-cost.
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IIRC, there's some general consensus that Kei's next steps are to raise CotWG and Physique to 40, but given her rate of Leadership Stagnancy, that's going to take a while...
 
RandomOTP said:
IIRC, there's some general consensus that Kei's next steps are to raise CotWG and Physique to 40, but given her rate of Leadership Stagnancy, that's going to take a while...
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Yeah we really need to figure out what to do with that. It's hard to justify the exposure risk to being around other people if we don't need to be, so her only real options for rolls are on Pangolins or other 7th Path creatures (maybe she could interrogate some Hyenas or something idk).
 
Shrooms said:
Yeah we really need to figure out what to do with that. It's hard to justify the exposure risk to being around other people if we don't need to be, so her only real options for rolls are on Pangolins or other 7th Path creatures (maybe she could interrogate some Hyenas or something idk).
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Yeah, the Pangolins really seem to be the only viable option. I'm not sure what would count as a Leadership challenge, though. Maybe leading a successful mission in Hyena? She's already doing that offscreen, though... or, at least, she was.
 
Another option would be to get her leadership domain replaced with a different one like stealth or smthn, but... where XP to put it over her socials lol
 
Sir Stompy said:
Cast ES on the grotto, smooth out the gaps in the the plugged tunnels, look for any strange sources of chakra in the rock. Try to identify the older markings in the walls. Make one for Uplift.
  • Hazou doesn't think this will casue golems to attack, but be on guard for them. Be combat ready w/ skywalkers on ready to flee.
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Could you add a bit about not immediately assuming the golems are hostile, since last time they didn't attack first? (I remember this discussion being had before but don't immediately remember how it ended - sorry if you've already expressed not wanting to do this!) Example line:

  • Hazou doesn't think this will cause golems to attack, but be on guard for them. Be combat ready w/ skywalkers on ready to flee, but don't attack immediately in case they're nonhostile; the last golems didn't attack until we did.
 
Kyreneryk said:
Could you add a bit about not immediately assuming the golems are hostile, since last time they didn't attack first? (I remember this discussion being had before but don't immediately remember how it ended - sorry if you've already expressed not wanting to do this!) Example line:

  • Hazou doesn't think this will cause golems to attack, but be on guard for them. Be combat ready w/ skywalkers on ready to flee, but don't attack immediately in case they're nonhostile; the last golems didn't attack until we did.
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I'll see what I can do, but it's not a top priority of mine and WC already needs trimming.
 
Kind of surprising that an enterprising Mist-native sealmaster with a teammate who specializes in water ninjutsu has gone all these years without a solid always-on solution for keeping his seal loadout dry, we should maybe get on that at some point if we have room for a sideproject.
 
OrthernLight said:
Kind of surprising that an enterprising Mist-native sealmaster with a teammate who specializes in water ninjutsu has gone all these years without a solid always-on solution for keeping his seal loadout dry, we should maybe get on that at some point if we have room for a sideproject.
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Cut to Hazou making a seal that rejected all water from entering an area. Reaches for the bag, his hand instantly withers. But now has very good and spicy area denial.
 
eaglejarl said:
Actually, heck with the spoilers tags.

Everyone's fine. The critters are dealt with, you can move on from the bughunt part of the scenario and do something else.

Voting is open. It closes Wednesday 11pm UK time.
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I take it we found no loot in this place? No magic sword the seals souls, or ancient manuscripts that detail how to learn Yang element, or delicious fruit of free-lightning-element?
 
OrthernLight said:
Kind of surprising that an enterprising Mist-native sealmaster with a teammate who specializes in water ninjutsu has gone all these years without a solid always-on solution for keeping his seal loadout dry, we should maybe get on that at some point if we have room for a sideproject.
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We've tried this before. I believe you can protect some seals with wax or something, but not if they project anything. So it wouldn't work with Skywalkers as they project a force dome under you, but they would work with an ARS.
 
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