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You got the ticket for Sasha simultaneously with the ticket for Honoka, loosely in exchange for Akane accepting her genin team:
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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All XP associated with an update will be reduced by potential stagnancy multipliers. This includes base XP, brevity XP, QM fun XP, Ami-style training XP, SC XP, PCJ XP, YSJ XP, Lootbox XP, and any other sources yet to arrive.
Assigned individually.
He does not think they will be hard enough to unstagnate him.
Yes, this is intentional. The 500 XP number is on the high end of what we were considering (see the 300 vs. 500 roll above), and given our calculations on XP rates, it seems appropriate.
Other ninja will be expected to have faced some amount of stagnancy in the course of their careers, depending on, yes, their age, talent, and how much they've pushed themselves narratively. We won't tell you what numbers we're using, though.
The ninjutsu, Hazō had no particular reason to share or not share. We defaulted to secrecy, but it wouldn't matter much since most of the scrolls were Fire Element and over half the clan is Lightning Element.
It gets nothing to share Orochimaru's personal affairs, but it could cost immensely if this somehow pisses Orochimaru off.
When Hazō actually uses Earthshaping regularly in ways with meaningful stakes.
Right, yes. We want to avoid "oh, we took a combat mission, made one roll, then desummoned. remove stagnancy plz.
Probably, "overcome a level-appropriate challenge" should be replaced with "meaningfully engage with a level appropriate challenge".
Yes.
Asuma elected to have the Tower cover the bulk of the cost. The remainder passed on to you would have been enough to make the clan bleed a month ago, but you're fine for now. Don't hire S-rankers if you can help it.
The zero-G incident was over 2,500 XP ago for Hazō. A seal that is only challenging on Calligraphy would not suffice to undo seal research stagnancy.
He could not have failed it without some extreme sandbagging.
Roughly, yes. The stagnancy system is supposed to incentivize interesting narrative things, not ever more creative lighthousing.
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[X] Action Plan: what are we locked for again? Cover all bases by punching a seal
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[X] Action Plan: what are we locked for again? Cover all bases by sealing a punch
PUNCH SEAL
THIS SEAL CAN ONLY BE INFUSED WHILE PUNCHING AND YELLING. BASED ON JIRAIYAS BOO SEAL (PUNCH US FOR SAYING THE NAME WRONG JIRAIYA, DO IT. USE THIS SEAL TO DO IT, IT'LL BE FUN)
WHEN USED A COPY OF THE STRONGEST PUNCH MADE DURING THE INFUSION PROCESS EXTENDS FROM THE SEAL AT ANY ANGLE, CHOSEN WHEN USED. THE YELLING ALSO BLEEDS THROUGH
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oh my sage yes? let's make it a fizzy drink, too!
"sealed punch-in-a-can! eaglejarl's favourite!"
Reusable Rocket Boots here we come!
Would a seal that is only challenging on Sealing undo seal research stagnency?
@eaglejarl @Paperclipped when unstagnating a Sealing domain, do bonuses from having access to blanks/infused seals/research notes/veterency and taking prep days mean that you need more difficult seals to unstagnate? As in you unstagnate with your Sealing number vs the effective TN of the seal?
Or do you unstagnate with your unboosted Sealing (save for innate bonuses like SSA) vs the unreduced TN of the seal?
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We name it powerthirst and make it the official beverage of the church of Youth
Edit: also, this discussion is making me realize that the boo seal is actually a potential new line of seal research, seals that record stuff, like J saying "boo".
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We just paint "Jashin" on top of the Temple of Youth and bam, Hidan happy
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REQUEST TO ALL PLAN MAKERS:
Please include a line for attempting to create a 3d seal, or rune, via a doping method. Even a throw away line is super appreciated in case the QMs saw this idea being bounced around and are just waiting for it to end up in a plan.
The following is the proposed method to create 3d seals, including indented explanations.
1. Take a block of corundum, shape it into the simplest seal equivalent Hazō can think of, keep the insides as perfectly smooth and boring as possible.
This corundum shape is now equivalent to sealing quality paper for this specific charm
2. Through the same process as creating saphires, insert a second material, one that Hazō feels is more conductive to earthshaping, into the charm blank very carefully following the directionality of what the charm should have, and tracing out the paths the chakra should take with thin distinct shapes.
This step is equivalent to first infusing the 'ink' with our chakra via ES, then drawing the seal with the 'ink'.
3. By default fully remove chakra as is ES's usual use case. If Hazō has a strong intuition of safeness, that the outcome will not be injury, rather than withdrawing ES normally, keep an amount of chakra Hazō thinks is appropriate in the charm blank.
This keeps the 'ink' in the previous step attuned to us in the same way we attune ink for paper Sealing.
4. Attempt to infuse the rune blank with full, max level Kagome assisted Kei improved safety precautions.
Please include a line for attempting to create a 3d seal, or rune, via a doping method. Even a throw away line is super appreciated in case the QMs saw this idea being bounced around and are just waiting for it to end up in a plan.
The following is the proposed method to create 3d seals, including indented explanations.
1. Take a block of corundum, shape it into the simplest seal equivalent Hazō can think of, keep the insides as perfectly smooth and boring as possible.
This corundum shape is now equivalent to sealing quality paper for this specific charm
2. Through the same process as creating saphires, insert a second material, one that Hazō feels is more conductive to earthshaping, into the charm blank very carefully following the directionality of what the charm should have, and tracing out the paths the chakra should take with thin distinct shapes.
This step is equivalent to first infusing the 'ink' with our chakra via ES, then drawing the seal with the 'ink'.
3. By default fully remove chakra as is ES's usual use case. If Hazō has a strong intuition of safeness, that the outcome will not be injury, rather than withdrawing ES normally, keep an amount of chakra Hazō thinks is appropriate in the charm blank.
This keeps the 'ink' in the previous step attuned to us in the same way we attune ink for paper Sealing.
4. Attempt to infuse the rune blank with full, max level Kagome assisted Kei improved safety precautions.
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FYI for this plan, this involves casting ES at Effect 6 (to dope a material) and then breaking it intentionally. That means Hazou will take 8 (Effect:6+2) physical stress. This will roll over hos 3-box stress track and inflict a Moderate and a Mild Consequence on him.
Although there is the possibility that the PCJ and GS can soak the damage from ES breaking. Can we get a ruling on that @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped?
IMO this is a bad trade for something that probably won't work. A Moderate would significantly slow FOOM and sealing research. I suggest trying to infuse it normally and only attempting this if Hazou thinks that breaking the jutsu painfully is the only pathway to success.
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We don't want to get too deep in the weeds here. Seal research mechanics are hidden, and if you want to remove stagnancy, you should focus on challenging projects temporarily. After an infusion roll, Hazō will be able to give an uncertain estimate of whether the seal is hard enough to count or not.
That's fair, can you guys at least tell us if taking prep days to do difficult seals is actively detrimental to unstagnating? I think that piece of information is important for the players to know.
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Does this double-dip for XP sources that scale based on other XP sources? That is, our Shadow Clone XP scales off of our Base XP, and any penalty to our Base XP is already intrinsically reflected in decreased SC XP gains. Does Stagnancy then get applied again, squaring the penalty for such sources?
For instance, if we earn 10 XP and have 20 training blocks, we would gain 20 SC XP that update. If stagnancy then reduces our Base XP to 8, our 20 training blocks would give us 16 XP instead of 20, a 20% drop in gains identical to the drop in Base XP. If Stagnancy was then applied directly to Shadow Clone as well, our SC XP gained that update would reduce to 12.8, only 64% of the unstagnated value.
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It is not.
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Q: when you say 'easy' seals, does this cover the Minato seals we've done thus far/recently? (Are they only 'easy' given Hazo's skills and abilities?)
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PCJ and GS block attacks coming from outside trying to penetrate the armor, but the Earthshaping damage happens internally. Hazō's armor techniques can't block it.
It doesn't double-dip. Thanks for checking.
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Okay. The seal stagnation thing seems like it'll be a huge problem, because seals that are hard enough to really challenge us are going to be incredibly slow and hard due to our low calligraphy.
Furthermore, "raise Resolve to slightly increase XP multiplier" will definitely be outweighed by the "fuck you, QM is bored" penalty. I've already forgotten the new rule's name.
Therefore I suggest we improve our weaker stats, so that we're more able to survive the challenges we're forced into regularly seeking out.
This is probably exactly the behavior the QMs wanted to incentivize.
Furthermore, "raise Resolve to slightly increase XP multiplier" will definitely be outweighed by the "fuck you, QM is bored" penalty. I've already forgotten the new rule's name.
Therefore I suggest we improve our weaker stats, so that we're more able to survive the challenges we're forced into regularly seeking out.
This is probably exactly the behavior the QMs wanted to incentivize.
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Yes, those seals are included. You can tell they are easy for Hazō because he was mostly skipping SSA and prep days and generally treating them like trivial obstacles on the road to necromancy.
[x] Action Plan: Due Diligence w/o Shikamaru
Guys, here's a foolproof plan to unstagnate on combat. Just host a tournament arc with the rest of the people in our peer group! We just need to do it once every couple months, and for real stakes just make it so that we lose out on a lot of money and reputation if we lose.
Guys, here's a foolproof plan to unstagnate on combat. Just host a tournament arc with the rest of the people in our peer group! We just need to do it once every couple months, and for real stakes just make it so that we lose out on a lot of money and reputation if we lose.
