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[X] Training Noburi: Star of the Show
[X] Training Akane: FOOM + Rocket Jump! + Shoryuken
[X] Training Keiko: FOOM + Rocket Jump!

Med is great but I think that focusing on Noburi's non-support stats for a hot minute would be a good idea.
 
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Relatedly, is there any reason why we want to level Ami's Ultimate Buster Bomb? Is this a pyramid thing?
Noburi's medic stats are in the 10s right now, but he has basically no room there to maneuver stats around since the 20s are so full. Since we're unlikely to push many of those 20s up, it might be necessary to leapfrog them. Leveling stats to 10 (esp. Buster Bomb, which is a fun mystery) alleviates that somewhat, letting one stat be leveled naturally while the other still has to leapfrog. I think that was my reasoning anyway.
 
[X] Training Noburi: Star of the Show
[X] Training Noburi: I Will Be the Next Tsunade

It seems to me that these two training directions present two narrative paths for Noburi's character arc.

1) The Traditional Badass, Star of the Show:

Noburi has always been in the shadow of those "greater" than himself. In Mist, he was part of a clan that was/is looked upon as little more than "chakra batteries." One of the main reasons why Noburi bonded with Team Uplift was because, even during Hazou's baby-sociopathic phase, they never viewed him as a gateway to his bloodline. At the end of [one of] the Hazou-Ino Date chapters (I think it was the one where Hazou asked Ino to vote for Kei's Consort Bill), Hazou mentioned that this was the way that he'd planned Noburi to go for (boost up Water Dragon Bullet) and Noburi expressed gratitude that Hazou was helping Noburi become a badass jonin.

Now, I don't know what conversations had been going on with the hivemind at the time (I had only just joined, iirc) but the narrative momentum is there. This potential character arc has Noburi coming into his own and stealing the spotlight in the more "stereotypical" jonin-style.

2) His Found Path, The Next Tsunade

Noburi has expressed great pride in being a medic. It's not something he has due to his bloodline, it's not something he was handed. He had to earn his medical prowess the hard way. He's expressed an enthusiasm while studying under Kabuto and was a little reluctant to weaponize medical jutsu (when Hazou mentioned the possibility of severing an opponent's tendons via Mist). This indicates that Noburi doesn't just have an academic curiosity for medicine, but that being a healer resonates with some aspects of his personality. Noburi was also distraught (to put it mildly) when Hazou's First Killbox meant that he could no longer study medicine in Leaf.

Pursuing this option means that Noburi-the-character rejects the "stereotypical" notion of a jonin (fireballs, summons, etc) and instead seeks his "own" type of fame. And besides, with a brother like Hazou at his side, Noburi won't be lacking for ways to weaponize his medical knowledge (or otherwise leverage it into jonin-level threats) if he's forced to.

Conclusion:

Barring QM-negation, I think that Hazou-the-character should ask Noburi his thoughts on his own training. The narrative layer of their character sheets is that "Hazou has The Thing and is frighteningly good at lists." Noburi, Kei, and Akane all trust Hazou to optimize their training (even if QM-fiat means that they may make their own decisions to pick up a skill, such as Akane spending XP to learn 1 level of sealing way back when).

We should ask Noburi-the-character what he wants his own development to be, so that we can help him get there. Granted, the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but... well, Noburi's current medical knowledge is twelve. That's lower than Hazou's calligraphy skill --and the QMs have been "hinting" that we need to level it up for a while, now. Without access to FOOM, Noburi isn't going to have access to a wealth of XP to waste [chasing two different build-styles].

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However, if the QMs say "don't put the onus on us to make the decision for the playerbase, just assume that, on a narrative level, Noburi-the-character will agree with the playerbase's decision," then I retract everything in the above and submit an apology for committing the sin of spoon-theft!!!
 
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If Noburi gets the ability to FOOM later, the only thing that really matters is Resolve and building the koi pond. For that, I suppose that leveling Resolve to 30 is nice, because it helps unblock the 20s for mednin/medknow?
Also, the social consideration of "Hey Noburi, improve your mental capability to handle SC because I still plan to get you them and it's better for you to be ready" would help with him feeling left out.
 
Noburi's medic stats are in the 10s right now, but he has basically no room there to maneuver stats around since the 20s are so full. Since we're unlikely to push many of those 20s up, it might be necessary to leapfrog them. Leveling stats to 10 (esp. Buster Bomb, which is a fun mystery) alleviates that somewhat, letting one stat be leveled naturally while the other still has to leapfrog. I think that was my reasoning anyway.
I'd be all for leveling Ghost Scales, or Hiding in Mist, myself.
 
[X] Training Noburi: Star of the Show

I am a strong supporter of improving Noburi's mednin, but I also think that if we're rounding out his combat suite we should finish rounding that out. Plus, he's had WDB sitting there uselessly since the Chuunin Exams, with its one use proving spectacular but useless.

Both are things he's been sitting on for a while and a sort of matter of pride for him to raise again, but both are coming as soon as we can get him the XP and imo the tiebreaker is that if we're rounding out his combat suite he should round out his combat suite.
 
Arachnid Scroll seems to be a bust, unless someone disagrees...?
Kinda disagree with this framing, although it certainly sounds dangerous. I think we should ask Asuma to gather intelligence (deniably) on the facility until we have a good threat assessment and then decide.
Noburi leads ambitious mission: Hunt every chakra beast within hundreds of miles.
  • Downed beasts can be drained to recharge Summoners/ninja to down more beasts.
Can Noburi do this without revealing mist drain?

Also before people get their hopes up with a hunting strategy. Noburi would need to kill about 400 tons of chakra beast to feed Leaf for one day.
Source 650kcal/lb of edible meat, 2000kcal/person/day, 100000 people in Leaf, 0.3778 lb of edible meat/lb of dead beast (based on white tail deer)
 
Kinda disagree with this framing, although it certainly sounds dangerous. I think we should ask Asuma to gather intelligence (deniably) on the facility until we have a good threat assessment and then decide.
IV could elaborate on this, but either A: They didn't find a scroll there because there is no scroll B: They found the scroll already and took it somewhere else C: They found the scroll and keep it there or D: The scroll is there but somehow they didn't find it. Only the latter two scenarios help us and I don't find them very likely to be true, and if they are we have to infiltrate a rock base. We can ask Asuma for surveillance details though, sure. I'll edit tomorrow, I'm very tired rn

Also before people get their hopes up with a hunting strategy. Noburi would need to kill about 400 tons of chakra beast to feed Leaf for one day.
Source 650kcal/lb of edible meat, 2000kcal/person/day, 100000 people in Leaf, 0.3778 lb of edible meat/lb of dead beast
Noted though it wouldn't be all of Leaf and it would be more like supplemental calories than singlehandedly feeding everyone right? Also, this would mean less farmers killed which means more food/money to buy food etc.

Can Noburi do this without revealing mist drain?
Yes, everyone knows Wakahisa can drain through normal water
 
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[X] Training Noburi: Star of the Show
Noted though it wouldn't be all of Leaf and it would be more like supplemental calories than singlehandedly feeding everyone right? Also, this would mean less farmers killed which means more food/money to buy food etc.
Oh it's still probably a good idea for the improvements to farmer life expectancy alone. I'm just managing expectations about resolving the hunger crisis this way. It's not really possible. There's a reason cities can't survive with hunters providing the food, there's just too many people.

We should see about getting Dog gold and spending it on food from Mist or some of the minors (River maybe?) that might help.
 
[X] Training Noburi: Star of the Show

Oh it's still probably a good idea for the improvements to farmer life expectancy alone. I'm just managing expectations about resolving the hunger crisis this way. It's not really possible. There's a reason cities can't survive with hunters providing the food, there's just too many people.

We should see about getting Dog gold and spending it on food from Mist or some of the minors (River maybe?) that might help.
Tbh I don't actually think it would be hard for an expedition to kill 400 tons of chakra beast in a day. (That's like 20 elephants, plenty of beasts are huge and meaty). I think the harder part would be transporting it back to Leaf. I'm hoping that Noburi and Hazou can just reverse summon several times a day and use a fuck ton of storage seals but they can only carry ?500? pounds at a time I think
 
Ideas for food: Go ten meters underground, build huge caves. Use J-man's sunlight seals and start building vegetable gardens. My biggest concern is ensuring enough air for people to breathe.
 
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IV could elaborate on this, but either A: They didn't find a scroll there because there is no scroll B: They found the scroll already and took it somewhere else C: They found the scroll and keep it there or D: The scroll is there but somehow they didn't find it. Only the latter two scenarios help us and I don't find them very likely to be true, and if they are we have to infiltrate a rock base. We can ask Asuma for surveillance details though, sure. I'll edit tomorrow, I'm very tired rn
I think we should def put some of that reasoning in the plan, maybe Keiko or others will have a comment on it.
Yes, everyone knows Wakahisa can drain through normal water
I don't doubt that, it's feasibility of draining a bunch of chakra beasts without using mist. How is Noburi going to get them into water? If he uses his whip, he has to do it one at a time. That doesn't scale. The mist scales.
Tbh I don't actually think it would be hard for an expedition to kill 400 tons of chakra beast in a day. (That's like 20 elephants, plenty of beasts are huge and meaty). I think the harder part would be transporting it back to Leaf. I'm hoping that Noburi and Hazou can just reverse summon several times a day and use a fuck ton of storage seals but they can only carry ?500? pounds at a time I think
It's more like 80-100 elephants. I also don't think that many chakra beasts are that large, not on land at least. I think the largest we've encountered were the steelbacks, and they were like 300-400 kg for a fully grown pig. I fully expect most chakra beasts to be smaller than that.

Storage seals can carry 220 lbs (100 kg).
 
I think we should def put some of that reasoning in the plan, maybe Keiko or others will have a comment on it.
True
I don't doubt that, it's feasibility of draining a bunch of chakra beasts without using mist. How is Noburi going to get them into water? If he uses his whip, he has to do it one at a time. That doesn't scale. The mist scales.
Pile the unconscious bodies up? Or just do it one at a time? This seems like a non-issue to me personally
I also don't think that many chakra beasts are that large, not on land at least.
honestly idk, maybe im thinking too anime rn
 
So, we should do something to increase Hazou's ability to depict the Great Seal to the rest of the sealmasters, but largely speaking we're limited to two options: continue making calligraphy representations of it, or get a fine-carving earth jutsu and use that to make a 3D carved-in-stone replica. I figure to help us decide I'll list what I think the pros and cons are and then hold a poll.

Calligraphy:
  • Con: Imperfect medium, makes it harder to analyze.
  • Pro: We already have some XP in this, makes it slightly faster to grow.
  • Pro: We already want calligraphy for our Sealing capabilities in general.
Stonecarving:
  • Pro: most accurate medium, facilitates best analysis.
  • Con: Might require Master Earthshaper, and thus more XP investment.
  • Pro: halfcost for first 10 levels, saving some XP.
  • Pro: recoup some costs with halfcost on Earth jutsu we level later, like PEA.
There's some definite uncertainty in the Stonecarving route, but we can probably reduce that by actually getting our hands on such a jutsu and analyzing how it works. The main pro for Stonecarving is the true-to-life results but if it turns out to have prohibitive XP costs to pursue relative to grinding Calligraphy then we might want to just suck it up and make do with more accurate drawings.

[] Great Seal Poll: Calligraphy
[] Great Seal Poll: Stonecarving
[] Great Seal Poll: Wait until we know how the jutsu works

Do these seem like good poll options? Let me know if I should add or tweak anything.
 
How are we going to render a bunch of wild chakra beasts unconscious without killing them? That's the hard part.
Summon spam, chopping limbs off, lethal but not instantly lethal injury, trapping in earth/water prisons, etc? I don't expect this would be too challenging either for any team strong enough to no-sell chakra beasts, especially depending on team composition. They only need to be immobilized/alive long enough for Noburi to soak up their juice. He likely wouldn't even need every single one, so if they're accidentally killed it's not a problem.
 
[X] Training Noburi: I Will Be the Next Tsunade
[X] Training Keiko: FOOM + Rocket Jump!
[X] Training Akane: FOOM + Rocket Jump!

I like Mr Smuggington but I do think medical skills should be somewhat of a priority. I'm not sure how likely it is he'll need offensive skills in the near future and he uses his medical skills on a daily basis.
 
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Back in the Chunnin Exams, Shikamaru gave Hazou six hours in return for assuming the mantle of team leader...

Did we ever spend those six hours? I imagine they're a lot more valuable, now that he's clan head.

Although, pulling a stunt like that would be inconsiderate, given all that he's done for us.

Though, I suppose we could use those hours as forced relaxation? Spend an hour here and an hour there, quietly watching the clouds with Shikamaru, forcing mental health breaks to keep from snapping under the pressure of being a clan head, and, naturally, Shika would be honor-bound to see the transaction through.
 
Summon spam, chopping limbs off, lethal but not instantly lethal injury, trapping in earth/water prisons, etc? I don't expect this would be too challenging either for any team strong enough to no-sell chakra beasts, especially depending on team composition. They only need to be immobilized/alive long enough for Noburi to soak up their juice. He likely wouldn't even need every single one, so if they're accidentally killed it's not a problem.

Killing and incapacitating are very different. It's a lot easier to kill something than to incapacitate it so that Noburi can touch it without being in danger. AFAIK we don't have earth or water prisons. I don't really know what you're referring to there.

Cutting off limbs would work, but the beast will die very quickly so Noburi would need to be on scene for that to work. That means we can't disperse, which kinda ruins the point of summon spam.

Imagine Noburi makes a successful hunt every 10 minutes (a ridiculous pace), and gets 50 cp (made this up) from each hunt. He could only support 900 cp worth of summons. Or about 8 chunin-level summons.

I don't really think this idea is feasible without mist drain, that's the tool he needs to affect a large group of creatures and effectively drain their chakra, on land at least.
 
@eaglejarl So what did Asuma say regarding the two banished Isan nin, other than that the Goketsu wouldn't need to be a part of the team dealing with them?
 
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