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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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[X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat

[X] Plan: Maximum Yorri

[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress

[X] Plan Yorri Monofocus
 
BungieONI said:
-[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 Actions.
--[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
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BungieONI said:
-[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Actions.
--[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
--[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. 1 Prod.
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Don't put 2 actions into it or use a Yorri Prod on it, just take Destructive Researching 3 times to complete it; it uses up 9 Shaggoth and 27 Dragon Ogre Corpses, leaving 6 Shaggoth and 18 Dragon Ogre Corpses.

It uses up more than half of the corpses, but it does finish it.
 
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Can someone help me understand why the rush to get crest feathers ?
Seens a bit to little to spend the favor on, to not talk how this will force us to design the armor next turn.
 
[X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat
[X] Plan To the Heart With No Apprentices
[X] Plan Progress, Progress Everywhere!
[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress

I support all the research! It's about time we focus more on it and less on our requests in my opinion!
 
Garlak said:
That's... not the plan I wanted, because it gives anywhere from 8 to 12 points on Movement of Things. ><

I'd put only 2, maybe 3, Prods in it. Which, yes, doesn't finish it but. That leaves a Prod free for a critical +15 to Odd Places -- I really want to be able to do a mass-explore option, and having a +15 on all those rolls will be so worth it and sweet.
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I'll be honest I don't particularly want to go exploring, and try to fit in research, and try to fit in Griffon stuff. Movement of Things gets 4 prods because once I spend prods on Diction and Dragon Ogres there's nothing else to put that final prod into and I'm assuming Yorri will be gone next turn. Exploring falls by the way side because I find research with Yorri and Griffon stuff higher priority.

Like fundamentally I want to get research projects done. Because a lot of people seem to want to cut it down a size and frankly its getting too large for my own tastes.
 
[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
-[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
-[X] Odd Places 5/10: Look on Master Yorri's map and try and discover one of his marked locations. The locations will certainly be odd, but whether they'll be useful will remain to be seen. [Cost: 1 action] Roll for usefulness. Spend 1 action.
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri probably knows a few things and secrets. Given he found these parts in the first place. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain +15 to Odd Places Roll
-[X] Prod for Prod: Master Yorri is most certainly more learned and experienced than you are, but mayhaps you have something worth his time as well? The secrets of the Rune Metal Adamant, your discovery of flaming comets? [Cost: 1 action] Gain x3 Yorri prods Spend 1 action.
-[X] The Secrets of Light?: That moment with the shield and sunray, the light of your torch glinting off the crystal, both sparked something in your mind. An ember that refused to be burned out. You've done permutations to the standard Rune of Light and a few on Master Yorri's Rune of Reflection, but maybe there could be more? [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. Spend 1 Action.
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri may have some knowledge he'd be willing to share.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 +1 Progress
-[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. Spend 1 action
--[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1 Progress
-[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. Spend 1 action
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Spend 4 prods

[X] Plan Yorri Monofocus

I refuse to vote for a plan that doesn't spend 5 actions with Yorri. This might be our one and only chance to do crazy fun things with two Runelords. We can optimize for action useage some other time. Right now is prime-time for whatever payoff (mostly narrative crazy-fun) we get for spending all 5 actions on Yorri-action.

Edit: Cleaned up action spending so it shows up on the vote tally.
 
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[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress

[X] Griffons and Yorri
-[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
-[X] [Simple] Warded Aeries: The Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor suffered terribly defending the skies of your hold. The decade-long siege has seen many an oath of friendship sworn between your folk and theirs. An entire generation of "Clutchlings" as they are called, has been raised alongside your own youth safely within the halls of the Karak. Their nests are high above the world, but they are ill-suited to protecting them from that which can fly as well. Rectify this, at least for the roost in Kraka Drakk, and aid in Otrek's work to repay these odd but dependable allies. 2 Actions
-[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. 1 Action
--[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. Take Twice
--[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things.
-[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. 1 Action
--[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?
-[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? 1 Action
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function. Take Twice

I'd start on the KotS Armor and ask for feathers, but I'd like to do that when we're actually starting to design said Armor. I'm still not sure on how that bit between getting the Favor and doing Pt 1 work @soulcake. Do we have to start the Armor the turn we ask for the Favor, or the turn after?

I want to start out on Warded Aeries, just because from an RP perspective, it feels like the sort of thing I want to get done to start repaying the debt. Other than that, the main focus is on using Yorri. Guarantee completion of Dragon Ogre Autopsy at the cost of two sets of Destructive Research and a Prod, finish Diction Direction since we're going to be getting closer to the Griffons a lot more in the future, and then move onto the Movement of Things with what's left.
 
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@BungieONI 4 on the movement? it needs 8, -1 from our action. 3 prods woulds gives us 3d2+3 or needing 4 from 3d2. Going 4 prods is just wastful

[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress

will have to see how things break down as I do want prod for prod, but prods are a finite resource so overspending them on actions seems like a poor idea
 
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Garlak said:
Don't put 2 actions into it or use a Yorri Prod on it, just take Destructive Researching 3 times to complete it; it uses up 9 Shaggoth and 27 Dragon Ogre Corpses, leaving 6 Shaggoth and 18 Dragon Ogre Corpses.

It uses up more than half of the corpses, but it does finish it.
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Again, it's a sub option - you still need to put at least 1 action in first.
 
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Derpmind said:
[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
-[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
-[X] Odd Places 5/10: Look on Master Yorri's map and try and discover one of his marked locations. The locations will certainly be odd, but whether they'll be useful will remain to be seen. [Cost: 1 action] Roll for usefulness.
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri probably knows a few things and secrets. Given he found these parts in the first place. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain +15 to Odd Places Roll
-[X] Prod for Prod: Master Yorri is most certainly more learned and experienced than you are, but mayhaps you have something worth his time as well? The secrets of the Rune Metal Adamant, your discovery of flaming comets? [Cost: 1 action] Gain x3 Yorri prods
-[X] The Secrets of Light?: That moment with the shield and sunray, the light of your torch glinting off the crystal, both sparked something in your mind. An ember that refused to be burned out. You've done permutations to the standard Rune of Light and a few on Master Yorri's Rune of Reflection, but maybe there could be more? [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri may have some knowledge he'd be willing to share.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 +1 Progress
-[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
--[X] 1 action
--[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1 Progress
-[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
--[X] 1 action
--[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times.
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I like this for how it gets stuff done. One formatting problem, but this plan doesn't specify how many actions Odd Places or Prod for Prod is getting. Just that they are being done.
 
[X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat
[X] Plan To the Heart With No Apprentices
[X] Plan Progress, Progress Everywhere!
[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress
 
[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
[X] Plan Yorri Monofocus

Suporting the plans that use Yorri prods and don't waste the sky boon to lock us into rushing the King's armor, wich makes no sense to me after the incrusion with so much research.
 
BungieONI said:
I'll be honest I don't particularly want to go exploring, and try to fit in research, and try to fit in Griffon stuff. Movement of Things gets 4 prods because once I spend prods on Diction and Dragon Ogres there's nothing else to put that final prod into and I'm assuming Yorri will be gone next turn. Exploring falls by the way side because I find research with Yorri and Griffon stuff higher priority.

Like fundamentally I want to get research projects done. Because a lot of people seem to want to cut it down a size and frankly its getting too large for my own tastes.
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For the love of god, don't spend any Yorri Prods on Dragon Ogres. Please please please just do Destructive Research three times.

We can afford it, and it will finish it, and we will still have a ton of corpses left.

Why are people spending only 2 uses of it?? Was it because one of the earliest plans used it twice, and so from then on, everybody locked on to using it twice only? Guys, you can finish it! Without using any Yorri Prods. And still have a ton of Dragon Ogres left. People, please...

And again, Movement of Things getting 4 Prods means that it's 1D2+1 x4. Or 2-3 x4 for each Prod. That means 8 to 12. points of progress. That's so much overflow that it makes me want to cry.

Meanwhile, a Prod is being used up on Diction Direction (only 1 progress) and on Dragon Ogres (which can be finished solely by Destructive Research).

All these woeful plans are making me weep. ><

[ ] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
- [ ] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets
done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times.

We have 15 Shaggoth corpses, and 465Dragon Ogre corpses. We can afford to take this 3 times. We do not need to spend 2 Actions on it, or 1 Yorri Prod.

[ ] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
- [ ] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times.

Just spend 2 (4-6), or maybe 3 (6-9) prods on it.
 
Fair enough. I've heard it twice, there are copies of each of my three plans in my post, with no boon and slightly adjusted titles.
 
Garlak said:
I know that. Which is why I am saying "put 1 action in it, and then finish it up with Destructive Research."

You don't NEED multiple actions in it, or multiple Yorri Prods!
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Okay, that's a fair argument. I value keeping more corpses, but I see your point.

Also, I get what you're saying about movement overflow, but I see it as an experiment - overflow on production has given us direct benefits but we've never tried research overflow before. Since we can't bank on Yorri being here next turn, I want to see if the overflow does anything for us. Epiphanies, related rune research unlocked? Who knows?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by EVA-Saiyajin on May 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM, finished with 171 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    - [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 action
    [X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Prod for Prod: Master Yorri is most certainly more learned and experienced than you are, but mayhaps you have something worth his time as well? The secrets of the Rune Metal Adamant, your discovery of flaming comets? [Cost: 1 action] Gain x3 Yorri prods. 1 Action.
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. 4 Prods.
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Actions.
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. 1 Prod.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action
    --[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1 Progress
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    [X] Plan To the Heart With No Apprentices
    -[X] Refuse the Hearth: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 Actions.
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. 1 Prod.
    -[X] C-c-combo Tester!: Write-in format for a Rune Combo you want Snorri to test. Format is as follows: [Placeholder Combo Name] Equipment type: [Rune 1, Rune 2, Rune 3] [Cost: 1 action] If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. 2 actions.
    --[X] Valaya's Care, Banner: Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Healing, Rune of Fortitude.
    --[X] Valaya's Sanctuary, Banner: Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Healing, Rune of Sanctuary.
    [X] Plan Progress, Progress Everywhere!
    [X] Plan Deck of Many Things
    -[X] Refuse the Hearth: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 Action.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. 3 Prods.
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Actions.
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. 1 Prod.
    -[X] C-c-combo Tester!: Write-in format for a Rune Combo you want Snorri to test. Format is as follows: [Placeholder Combo Name] Equipment type: [Rune 1, Rune 2, Rune 3] [Cost: 1 action] If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. 2 actions.
    --[X] Master of Storms, Armor: Master Rune of Steel, Rune of Lightning, Rune of Cold
    --[X] Valaya's Sanctuary, Banner: Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Healing, Rune of Sanctuary.
    [X] Plan Yorri Monofocus
    [X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Prod for Prod: Master Yorri is most certainly more learned and experienced than you are, but mayhaps you have something worth his time as well? The secrets of the Rune Metal Adamant, your discovery of flaming comets? [Cost: 1 action] Gain x3 Yorri prods. 1 Action.
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. 4 Prods.
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Actions.
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. 1 Prod.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action
    --[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1 Progress. 1 Prod.
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    [X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Odd Places 5/10: Look on Master Yorri's map and try and discover one of his marked locations. The locations will certainly be odd, but whether they'll be useful will remain to be seen. [Cost: 1 action] Roll for usefulness.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri probably knows a few things and secrets. Given he found these parts in the first place. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain +15 to Odd Places Roll
    -[X] Prod for Prod: Master Yorri is most certainly more learned and experienced than you are, but mayhaps you have something worth his time as well? The secrets of the Rune Metal Adamant, your discovery of flaming comets? [Cost: 1 action] Gain x3 Yorri prods
    -[X] The Secrets of Light?: That moment with the shield and sunray, the light of your torch glinting off the crystal, both sparked something in your mind. An ember that refused to be burned out. You've done permutations to the standard Rune of Light and a few on Master Yorri's Rune of Reflection, but maybe there could be more? [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri may have some knowledge he'd be willing to share.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 +1 Progress
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
    --[X] 1 action
    --[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1 Progress
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc.
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times.
    --[X] 4 prods
    [X] Plan To the Heart with Apprentices
    -[X] Refuse the Hearth: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Apprentice Hunt: Go out and trawl through the local and regional populace to find a beardling or two worth your time. No stone unturned, no clan unchecked, no record unread, even the Foundling Wards! [Cost: 1 Action] Apprentice Vote after Turn Results. 1 action.
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 Actions.
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. Take Twice.
    -[X] C-c-combo Tester!: Write-in format for a Rune Combo you want Snorri to test. Format is as follows: [Placeholder Combo Name] Equipment type: [Rune 1, Rune 2, Rune 3] [Cost: 1 action] If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. 2 actions.
    --[X] Valaya's Care, Banner: Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Healing, Rune of Fortitude.
    --[X] Valaya's Sanctuary, Banner: Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Healing, Rune of Sanctuary.
    [X] Plan: Maximum Yorri
    [X] Griffons and Yorri
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] [Simple] Warded Aeries: The Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor suffered terribly defending the skies of your hold. The decade-long siege has seen many an oath of friendship sworn between your folk and theirs. An entire generation of "Clutchlings" as they are called, has been raised alongside your own youth safely within the halls of the Karak. Their nests are high above the world, but they are ill-suited to protecting them from that which can fly as well. Rectify this, at least for the roost in Kraka Drakk, and aid in Otrek's work to repay these odd but dependable allies. 2 Actions
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. 1 Action
    --[X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. Take Twice
    --[X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. 1 Action
    --[X] Prod Yorri: He discovered the damn thing, maybe he has more insights?
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? 1 Action
    --[X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function. Take Twice
    [X] Plan Lightning Warriors
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    -- [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    -- [x] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    -- [x] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action
    -[x] C-c-combo Tester!: Write-in format for a Rune Combo you want Snorri to test. Format is as follows: [Placeholder Combo Name] Equipment type: [Rune 1, Rune 2, Rune 3] [Cost: 1 action] If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. 1 actions.
    --[X] Master of Storms, Armor: Master Rune of Steel, Rune of Lightning, Rune of Cold
    [X] Plan Lightning Warriors-noboon
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    -- [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    -- [x] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    -- [x] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action
    -[x] C-c-combo Tester!: Write-in format for a Rune Combo you want Snorri to test. Format is as follows: [Placeholder Combo Name] Equipment type: [Rune 1, Rune 2, Rune 3] [Cost: 1 action] If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. 1 actions.
    --[X] Master of Storms, Armor: Master Rune of Steel, Rune of Lightning, Rune of Cold
    [X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress-no boon
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    - [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    -[X] [Simple] Weaponized Wings: You can't arm the Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor with Gromril, while lesser in population than the hold they make up for it in sheer bulk that needs to be protected. What you can do, however, is take part in King Otrek's efforts to arm them with Runic weaponry and good solid steel armour. It will mostly consist of you spending time fitting a few select Griffons, likely the eldest and most powerful given your position, with Rune weapons and maybe a suit of Gromril armour if they're important enough. [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 1 Action.
    -[X] Diction Direction: Master Yorri's Rune of Translation is serviceable, but it's in a position that you can very clearly see areas for improvement. This would certainly be easier if you knew Master Yorri was right now, but you have the Rune and seven centuries under your belt, so it's not an insurmountable challenge for a Runelord. [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 action
    [X] Plan Progress, Progress Everywhere! -no boon
    -[X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    - [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    -- [X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    [X] [Simple] Warded Aeries: The Griffons of the Skarrenraz Ankor suffered terribly defending the skies of your hold. The decade-long siege has seen many an oath of friendship sworn between your folk and theirs. An entire generation of "Clutchlings" as they are called, has been raised alongside your own youth safely within the halls of the Karak. Their nests are high above the world, but they are ill-suited to protecting them from that which can fly as well. Rectify this, at least for the roost in Kraka Drakk, and aid in Otrek's work to repay these odd but dependable allies. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 2 actions
    [X] Refuse the Heart: Allow the King of the Skies to consume it. Gain standing with the Skarrenraz Ankor and KoTS. ???
    -[X] Boon from the Sky: A bundle of your crest feathers. [Cost: Start Request, [Difficult] Plated Skies Pt. 1:]
    -[X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: You've found yourself with a bevy of corpses to study. Dragon Ogres aren't an unknown foe, but you've never been privy to the results of the few limited autopsies done in the long history of your people. [Cost: 6 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 action
    - [X] Destructive Research: You have very many corpses. Being a bit more invasive in your understanding will mean more work gets done, but will cost you. [Cost: 3 Shaggoth Corpses, 9 Dragon Ogre Corpses] Gain 2 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x2
    -- [X] Prod Yorri: See if your master has something in his noggin, he spent a decade fighting these things. [Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d3 of progress. x1
    -[X] The Movement of things: The Rune of Waking or Animation as some would call it is a rare rune. How Master Yorri knows both the regular and Master Rune could be explained by either a harrowing adventure full of terror, beasties and treasure or by something as mundane as asking a friend, you could never be sure with the man. Still, this was a rune that, to your frustration, you haven't had much chance to tinker with. Maybe just a peak? [Cost: 8 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 1 Action.
    - [X] Prod Yorri: Master Yorri, by his own account, has a good idea about how gronti and their ilk function.[Cost: 1 prod] Gain 1d2+1 Progress, can be taken multiple times. x3
    [X] Plan Road Trip
    -[X] Refuse the Hearth
    -[X] Odd Places 5/10 x4
    --[X] Prod Yorri x4
    -[X] Prod for Prod
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Chimeraguard said:
I want to start out on Warded Aeries, just because from an RP perspective, it feels like the sort of thing I want to get done to start repaying the debt. Other than that, the main focus is on using Yorri. Guarantee completion of Dragon Ogre Autopsy at the cost of two sets of Destructive Research and a Prod, finish Diction Direction since we're going to be getting closer to the Griffons a lot more in the future, and then move onto the Movement of Things with what's left.
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Can I convince you to change to using Destructive Research 3 times, rather than twice and 1 Prod? Still finished it up, and still has a ton of corpses left.
BelligerentGnu said:
Okay, that's a fair argument. I value keeping more corpses, but I see your point.
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Garlak said:
Don't put 2 actions into it or use a Yorri Prod on it, just take Destructive Researching 3 times to complete it; it uses up 9 Shaggoth and 27 Dragon Ogre Corpses, leaving 6 Shaggoth and 18 Dragon Ogre Corpses.

It uses up more than half of the corpses, but it does finish it.
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Look at how many corpses it still leaves us with. 6 Shaggoth and 18 Dragon Ogre corpses. That's a ton of material still.

And as for the overflow... it will overflow it by 1-5 action. That seems a bit excessive. Feels like using up Prods just for overflow, when you can instead spend the Prods on other stuff too. Like Secrets of Light -- or my favorite, being able to spend it on Odd Places. Or maybe something will come up next turn; more Prod actions perhaps? Who knows.
 
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[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri

I really think we should be doing a secret of light prod rather than shaggoth dissection, which can be done once Yorri leaves. So I like this plan. Makes the best use of the limited time he's here I feel.
 
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