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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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For the love of god, don't spend any Yorri Prods on Dragon Ogres. Please please please just do Destructive Research three times.

We can afford it, and it will finish it, and we will still have a ton of corpses left.

Why are people spending only 2 uses of it?? Was it because one of the earliest plans used it twice, and so from then on, everybody locked on to using it twice only? Guys, you can finish it! Without using any Yorri Prods. And still have a ton of Dragon Ogres left. People, please...

And again, Movement of Things getting 4 Prods means that it's 1D2+1 x4. Or 2-3 x4 for each Prod. That means 8 to 12. points of progress. That's so much overflow that it makes me want to cry.

Meanwhile, a Prod is being used up on Diction Direction (only 1 progress) and on Dragon Ogres (which can be finished solely by Destructive Research).

All these woeful plans are making me weep. ><
Because I honestly expect Yorri to be gone on turn 21. That's the scope of my reason.

E: I honestly don't care either way about the corpses. They hold very little value to me because there's so many of them, barring Kholek's.
 
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[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
[X] Plan Road Trip
[X] Plan Movement and Its Scaly Cat

I will not vote for a plan without Prod for Prod. I firmly believe, even without Prod for Prod, that teaching Master Yorri what we know of Adamant refining would only benefit the Karaz Ankor, by providing more potential vectors for transmitting the secrets of Adamant Refining, and by helping Yorri further his creations with Adamantine.
 
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The Dragon Ogre autopsy gives us immediate access to whatever is left of Kholek, which may include at least one more T5 reagent like the brain.

And of course all that stuff from the Shaggoths.

I'm hopeful that there might be a Master Rune of Thunderbolts linked behind the Dragon Ogres tree.
 
In the hope's Master Yorri stays another turn? Also to get brown points with the old master. Hehe honestly hope we could off load the uber Gronti thing off on him. Or atleast make it joint if people still wanna go that way. He could speed it up to something finishable this century.

Narratively, I really want to read about Yorri and Snorri working together not just as Master and Student, but fellow researchers. Plus, I hope that it opens up the possibility eventually of Snorri bartering research with his apprentices, current or future, as well as with other Runesmiths Snorri has good enough relations with or even Master Yorri's other apprentices, down the line, by setting into stone that Snorri is definitely open to the idea with the right people.
 
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The Dragon Ogre autopsy gives us immediate access to whatever is left of Kholek, which may include at least one more T5 reagent like the brain.

Yeah, but unless we're going to use it next turn I don't see the rush. And I don't see why we'd need to do that. So just use destructive testing next turn to get it done cheap and use the Yorri prods this turn on stuff that we can't do as cheaply once he leaves.
 
Yeah, but unless we're going to use it next turn I don't see the rush. And I don't see why we'd need to do that. So just use destructive testing next turn to get it done cheap and use the Yorri prods this turn on stuff that we can't do as cheaply once he leaves.
I intend to use it next turn yeah. Want the King of the Skies Armor deaaaaaaaalt with so.
 
Dammit @BungieONI, stealth opening the votes!

Re-posting to register properly.

[X] Plan: Maximum Yorri
- [X] Refuse the Heart:
- [X] Prod for Prod: 1 action
- [X] Dragon Ogre Autopsy: 1 action
-- [X] Destructive Research x1
-- [X] Prod Yorri x1
- [X] The Secrets of Light?: 1 action
-- [X] Prod Yorri x1
- [X] Hearthstones: 1 action
-- [X] Prod Yorri x1
- [X] The Movement of things: 1 action
-- [X] Prod Yorri x4

So, this plan is designed to maximize the possible research progress we gain from Yorri prods. With this, we will gain a minimum of

Dragon Ogre (1act+2des+1prod) + Secrets of Light (1act+1prod) + Hearthstones (1 act + 2prod) + Movement (1 act + 8prod)

18 progress for five actions, and a maximum of

(1act+2des+3prod) + Secrets of Light (1act+ 4prod) + Hearthstones (1 act + 2prod) + Movement (1 act + 12prod)

27 progress for five actions.

Yes, I know that Movement is getting ridiculous overflow, but it's the only place we can sink multiple Yorri prods - we're limited by our actions.

Hopefully research overflow helps like production overflow.
 
Letting him eat the Suneater heart is better overall plus creating a fully Runed armor made of Adamant to compliment his massive boost of power is even better than making an Armor out of it.
 
Yeah, but unless we're going to use it next turn I don't see the rush. And I don't see why we'd need to do that. So just use destructive testing next turn to get it done cheap and use the Yorri prods this turn on stuff that we can't do as cheaply once he leaves.
Odd Places has nothing to do with cheaper research.

Besides, I DO want to get it done next turn.

Letting him eat the Suneater heart is better overall plus creating a fully Runed armor made of Adamant to compliment his massive boost of power is even better than making an Armor out of it.
That depends on the runes and if there's a combo. Plus the possibility of earler, somewhat inferior armor saving his life in the centuries it takes to get that much Adamant.
Narratively, I really want to read about Yorri and Snorri working together not just as Master and Student, but fellow researchers. Plus, I hope that it opens up the possibility eventually of Snorri bartering research with his apprentices, current or future, as well as with other Runesmiths Snorri has good enough relations with or even Master Yorri's other apprentices, down the line, by setting into stone that Snorri is definitely open to the idea with the right people.
Considering they fought side by side against THE Dragon Ogre (in some ways more of a name than his father) I'd figure Dragon Ogre anatomy counts as both master and student AND fellow researchers.
 
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[X] Plan Research Friends With Master Yorri
[X] Plan: Maximum Yorri
[X] Plan Progress, Progress Everywhere! -no boon
[X] Plan So much Grimnir-Damned Progress-no boon
[X] Plan Yorri Monofocus
 
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Honestly, I consider it worthless going searching for odd places. Not only does it take away from the spirit of adventure in having a pseudo-guide, there's no one available to take advantage of what we find. All manpower is needed for reclamation and rebuilding.
 
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