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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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It occurs to me that, now that Otrek's entrusting his armour to the next generation, someone's gonna have to etch his name and deeds into one of the scales. Wonder if there's any ironarm smith who's got the balls to try or if they'll just ask Snorri
 
LaggPlaguedDuke said:
The Grimnir gronti is definitely going to be MWaking/rune of Grimnir on the actual body. The question is what's the third rune going to be? Brotherhood to leech the hearthguards skill since it'll be spending most of the time near them? Idk what else goes with Grimnir tbh.
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My first thought is Fury, alternatively Speed or Might. Preservation could be good but seems unlikely to combo.
 
Nianque said:
So... Not sure how popular this idea is, but I really want to compress Mountainsoul before building the gronti. It's connected to the Deep Magic after all. Ideally, I'd like to understand the master rune about 4 times to try and get a regular version of it as well. Unfortunately that would be something like 10 turns of just working on 1 rune which I doubt the thread will go for.

My preferred gronti would have Master Waking, mountainsouled, and grimnir on it.
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Sounds like a 30 ish action contribution with uncertain outcomes as there may not be a regular rune?
Consider it much lower on my list of things to do.
 
At some point Mountainsouled may be worth compressing if we get a commission for an important enough piece of armour. I would be interested in comparing it and the Master Rune of Metalblood, if we ever learn it.

More generally, I think the Master Rune of Metalblood may give some insight either into the Awakening of Things or into the Repair Rune.

Understanding Mountainsouled might as well, as it transforms the wearer into something that is both non-biological and regenerating.
 
I'd like to at least compress Mountainsouled before building the gronti. It'll almost certainly give us progress to Movement of Things as well as give us a high tier armor rune.
 
Nianque said:
I'd like to at least compress Mountainsouled before building the gronti. It'll almost certainly give us progress to Movement of Things as well as give us a high tier armor rune.
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Walk me through the logic that a Rune designed to emulate mountains. Would help us understand how things move?

All of our progress in Movement of Things so far has been based on making more lifelike creations, nothing related to Deep Magic. This could theoretically change in the future but its absolutely not certain.
On top of that I remain pretty certain that the deep magic elements are probably related to the Greedy Ones Heart, if putting the Rune of Stone in things was all it took to tap into Deep Magic Runesmiths would have known about it long before Thungni unveiled MWaking.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Walk me through the logic that a Rune designed to emulate mountains. Would help us understand how things move?

All of our progress in Movement of Things so far has been based on making more lifelike creations, nothing related to Deep Magic. This could theoretically change in the future but its absolutely not certain.
On top of that I remain pretty certain that the deep magic elements are probably related to the Greedy Ones Heart, if putting the Rune of Stone in things was all it took to tap into Deep Magic Runesmiths would have known about it long before Thungni unveiled MWaking.
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... What?
Okay, first off further research into Movement of Things involves figuring out Deep magic.
Second off, no it was not just putting the rune of stone in things that did it, nor was it the Greedy One's Heart. It was the specific combination of runes that did that, as seen during our trade with the gronti rune lord. You know, when Snorri gave hints as to which parts were touching on Deep Magic?
 
Surprised Otrek's dying so soon, honestly. I figured he was going to retire soon, then live at least a good century or two longer, like Snorri's mum did. Guess kingship's a heavy burden to bear.
 
I wonder how differently the quest would have gone, in the scenario where Snorri had accepted the leadership of the Throng during the counterstrike against the Greedy Troll and taken up the kingship of Kraka Drakk thereafter.


soulcake said:
You look around at the assembled group of leaders, taking their histories, beards and knowledge into account before deciding that it is a waste of time and instead simply ask.

"Who is the ranking lord?"

They look at you oddly.

You look back, eyes narrowed.

A few Thanes nervously look down.

"Ah, going by the size of the contribution to the hold's prosperity, age, and experience," the young thane starts,

"- as well as owning the Gromril Mine," another older thane adds in quietly.

"-You are by tradition, at least until a council of the eldest members of the hold decides the kingship, the ranking Lord, Rhunrikki." the youngster finishes.

You blink.

This is what you get for not paying enough attention to the local politics you suppose.

Do you accept command of the Throng?

[ ] No: You don't have the intimate knowledge or know how to lead a throng. Leave this to the thanes to sort out. The Eldest Thane of the hold will lead the Throng.

[ ] Yes: By tradition, you would be the ranking lord, in charge of leading these stout dwarfs in battle. It is not one you will shirk.
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soulcake said:
646 Years old according to my notes.
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Thankie! Good chunk older than I expected actually.

Needed the info for what I was thinking about, which was how long the dragon kings of Kraka Drakk might rule and how old they might get while doing so since I wanted to figure out the turns they might ascend and abdicate. If Gloin rules for 350 years, a bit more than his father, he'd rule till turn 75 or thereabouts and be about 996 years old when he abdicates. Gimli by turns would be 530 when he ascends to the throne and if he ruled for 350 years he'd be 880 years old when he abdicates.

Frankly though I stand by my hope that they rule longer than Otrek did, and too that end I expect them to likely pass 1000.

Catpetter1981 said:
I wonder how differently the quest would have gone, in the scenario where Snorri had accepted the leadership of the Throng during the counterstrike against the Greedy Troll and taken up the kingship of Kraka Drakk thereafter.
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That wasn't the choice being made: The elders there all agreed Snorri wouldn't take it, and further being King and Runelord is not what this quest is about, but about being a Runelord making Cool Shit. Soul has been pretty dang clear about this.
 
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It would be interesting to see what a retired Otrek do with at least a century of living before he pass on, I guess just sit around the tavern everyday drinking with the old timers and dawi watching.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
I don't think Snorri can become a king he doesn't possess the right ancestry.
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soulcake said:
"And finally Clan Winterhearth, whose founder married Huldra, great-granddaughter of Thungni, Princess of Karak Azul," the last finishes.

Gormak sniffs loudly enough to get their attention before speaking, "Can't be Winterhearth, the one we want from them would refuse as we are well aware.
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Pretty sure they're talking about Snorri here? I don't think any of the rest of his family had moved up there yet. But regardless, he simply doesn't have time to be a Runelord and a King. No one does, one or the other would have to fall by the wayside. Our backlog would be longer than Snorri's beard.
 
Jrin said:
It would be interesting to see what a retired Otrek do with at least a century of living before he pass on, I guess just sit around the tavern everyday drinking with the old timers and dawi watching.
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Kings dont really retire. Otreks handing off of duties is still seen as him working, and the fact that dwarfs usually knowing when theyll die of old age has the cultural effect of them treating the last few years someone has a bit like, to be a bit morbid, if they had a terminal disease.
 
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TheDuke said:
Surprised Otrek's dying so soon, honestly. I figured he was going to retire soon, then live at least a good century or two longer, like Snorri's mum did. Guess kingship's a heavy burden to bear.
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Dwarfs don't really retire as we think of it. They basically work until they are killed or start to die. Iggun, Snorri's mother, did the same.

soulcake said:
646 Years old according to my notes.
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Sir LagsAlot said:
I don't think Snorri can become a king he doesn't possess the right ancestry.
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Ehhh? Snorri could have been King if he had wanted to.

soulcake said:
Gormak sniffs loudly enough to get their attention before speaking, "Can't be Winterhearth, the one we want from them would refuse as we are well aware. And I don't have enough information to trust people so new to the hold.
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soulcake said:
1. The deal with being the direct heir of thungni would've put more pressure on you, but the main issue with being king and runelord is action use. Being king would've cut into your runelord actions. There would've been a vote over it in this if ya hadn't pushed Otrek past the critical point by making him a cool wizbang weapon.
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I think you were thinking about this second quote from soulcake.
 
soulcake said:
Kings dont really retire. Otreks handing off of duties is still seen as him working, and the fact that dwarfs usually knowing when theyll die of old age has the cultural effect of them treating the last few years someone has a bit like, to be a bit morbid, if they had a terminal disease.
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So from how I understand it, they wouldn't live as long as they do if they didn't feel their job still needs more work, right?
Hence no retirement, the moment he puts down the work, the only suitable rest lies with Gazul.
 
MrHobbit said:
Ehhh? Snorri could have been King if he had wanted to.

I think you were thinking about this second quote from soulcake.
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I was thinking about how only those of royal blood can become kings I just forgot that descendants of the Ancestor Gods count in general I was thinking only descendants of Grungni and Grimnir counted since those are most often the ones referenced with regards to potential candidates.
 
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