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I mean, it'd be cool I guess, but...why? To try and simulate Dawi anatomy and further stimulate the Rune of Awakening more? As some kind of power source? I'd be fine with it, but I'd like there to be some kind of function to go with the form.
We have the following pieces;
- Barak Azramar uses the deep magic, is oddly focused on the heart, and power seems to go outward from there.
- The Master Rune of Awakening uses the deep magic and has a troll heart as ingredient.
- Anatomic correctness seems to improve MR Awakening.
- Just now we literally found liquid "Strength of Body and Will" ie. Grimnir's blood, Grminirzan
 
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- Barak Azramar uses the deep magic, is oddly focused on the heart, and power seems to go outward from there.
Nothings odd there. BA isn't particularly focused on the heart, however its molten blood effect is explainable by its definition being shifted by an incredibly powerful regeneration rune and t5 reagent meeting the rune of stone
 
I mean, it'd be cool I guess, but...why? To try and simulate Dawi anatomy and further stimulate the Rune of Awakening more? As some kind of power source? I'd be fine with it, but I'd like there to be some kind of function to go with the form.
A warrior gronti to fight enemies?
I mean the idea would be to build one, and while we're at it, since we know that realistic muscles(and ah...intimate bits) make a Gronti work better even if most of those details don't actually matter to its function, we go one further and see if replicating internals help significantly.

We have the perfect material for a warrior's symbolic circulatory system right here after all, and if its a metal Gronti, we can cast the relevant bits in the right shape and see if that works.

Besides, there'd always be uses for warrior gronti.
 
Nothings odd there. BA isn't particularly focused on the heart, however its molten blood effect is explainable by its definition being shifted by an incredibly powerful regeneration rune and t5 reagent meeting the rune of stone
Um, no I think it is *do I have to look it up?*, how it pulses with Snorri's heartbeat and I recall other scenes where it was mentioned.
 
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Course, that didn't even touch on your proximity to the Skarrenraz Ankor, and the sight and knowledge of non-dwarfs carrying Runic items. Though that was arguably less egregious to them at this point, given that the Ancestors themselves effectively gave it their blessing.

You're certain that many dwarfs here, while not willing to kill you over it anymore, do not forget you gave those torques before the Ancestors gave their approval.

Bah.

It's only four lines of text but we have like a dozen pages of discussion about how literal the term 'willing to kill you' are.

Never change SV. Never Change.

TBH, I don' care about the elgi/elves very much, beyond trying to limit the damage the war of vengeance brings over the Karaz Ankor. IIRC we can't influence that all to much either because the whole war was pretty much squarely on the shoulders of the elves. IIRC they never told anyone that they had a civil war and that there was a rogue faction around now so when the Dark Elves started raiding Dwarven Holds the dwarves took that as a sign of war. When their highest ranking diplomats, who had been sent to explain and possibly prevent the Grudge returned clean shaven, another instance of elven arrogance and ignorance, the war was kicked off. Highly doubt we can influence either of these events.
 
I dunno, it sounds like a good place to place a nasty surprise with some ingenious Dawi engineering. I mean, an extra slot for a Flamethrower, or a Talisman with the Master Rune of Spite / Immolation? Yes please!
I would just like to say that this entire line of conversation terrifies the absolute hell out of me.
 
This discussion has been had in Divided Loyalities, I think the consensus was that every WHF edition introduced/retconned stuff about the cause of the War of the Beard that it's kinda a CYOA like setting piece.


Maybe we should make the Grimnir Gronti as young Grimnir, if we choose a later aspect we're likely to stick our hand into a major internal Cult of Grimnir conflict.
 
Things Zhufazul might be a Rune Ingredient for:

... pressing enter and accidentally posting the entire post before you type anything more.

Will edit this to add in stuff lol.

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* Master Rune of Thorgrim Starhammer/Daemon-Flame (flaming attacks that deal extra damage against daemons and magical things)

* Master Rune of Metalblood (bearer gains metal body. Weights more, has steel skil and can bleed molten steel but is otherwise the same)

(Not sure if Phoenix might work for either of these or not. May or may not. May be more fitting for MVitality. Or if there was some kind of Master Rune that combined fire and health regen... you know what, maybe we should make that? A Combo, and later Master Rune, that has regeneration and fire both? Fire, Health, and Fortitude, perhaps? Though, Zharrkazad with its MInfernos+Fortitude+Vitality might be that already. It doesn't necessarily have to only come from a combo that had a Master Rune in it though.)

The Master Rune of Grimnir, of course.

Maybe a few other fiery runes -- like the Talismanic Master Rune of Fiery Defense, which summons a wall of fire around you. MSpellspite or Spellburning, though probably as alternative ingredients rather than main ingredients. The Armor rune Master Rune of Vitality. ((I'll bet the Phoenix Feather is an excellent ingredient for Vitality though of course.)) The Engineering rune Master Rune of Immolation, which lets a warmachine self-destruct in fire.

Other Engineering Runes -- not Master Runes though -- that might be boosted might include... The Rune of Burning, the Rune of the Stalwart, the Rune of the Valiant. Mmmaybe the Rune of Empowerment? Probably not though, but.

Battle, Courage, Determination... Master Rune of Stromni Redbeard. As far as Banner Runes go.

For weapon runes, might include Fire, Might, Grudges, Fury.
 
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So just found the commission section under the favors. Some of them look pretty nice. Haven't really seen chat for a few chapters but did you guys decide anything on that?
 
[X] Plan The Hearth Watch

I somehow didn't get an notification for this update? which is odd but anyway great update loved it and loved how Moria has cut us off from giving them toys cause they have to damn many!
 
-- To your imminent surprise this material can accept Armour Runes, not as efficiently as Gromril, but considering such Runes required Gromril in the first place it is a staggering revelation. You doubt Dawi are going to start trapezing about in wooden armour anytime soon, but it's interesting to know. If there were ways to improve the material's natural toughness…
Snori, Snori no. Dawi aren't going to be using this for wooden armor, that wood be silly. They're going to be using it to put armor runes on their wooden ships.* Do it Snori, become 10/10 with Barrak Var by accident. You know you want to.

* By the time of canon they transition to steam powered metal ones, but now they're using wooden ships, just like the canon Norse Dawi do.
 
Snori, Snori no. Dawi aren't going to be using this for wooden armor, that wood be silly. They're going to be using it to put armor runes on their wooden ships.* Do it Snori, become 10/10 with Barrak Var by accident. You know you want to.

* By the time of canon they transition to steam powered metal ones, but now they're using wooden ships, just like the canon Norse Dawi do.

If we could infuse Chamon into regular wood and manage to mimic some of the strength of Wutroth... It might make up for the limited supply of Azrilwut.

Also:
When wearing Barak Azamar, once we figure out alchemy... we can be the Full metal alchemist :V
 
[X] Plan The Hearth Watch

I have to say, it is amusing to think of a Dwarf, much less a Runelord, poking around with Alchemy of all things.
 
I wonder how much Chamon a block of Oathgold has.

Or if Chamon clusters around Oathgold? If so, that's an amusing picture: Silverwood trees growing in places with lots of Oathgold decorations! ... Maybe Gromril decoration too.

EDIT: But, no. It's not about the surroundings. (Though the environment can probably help.) The key is in the Azrilwut itself. The trees themselves are of a type that... ... somehow just happen to absorb Chamon as they grow. It's something special about Azrilwutroth itself. Something special about the tree that gives it the quality of attracting Chamon to begin with. I wonder what.
 
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I wonder how much Chamon a block of Oathgold has.

Or if Chamon clusters around Oathgold? If so, that's an amusing picture: Silverwood trees growing in places with lots of Oathgold decorations! ... Maybe Gromril decoration too.

EDIT: But, no. It's not about the surroundings. (Though the environment can probably help.) The key is in the Azrilwut itself. The trees themselves are of a type that... ... somehow just happen to absorb Chamon as they grow. It's something special about Azrilwutroth itself. Something special about the tree that gives it the quality of attracting Chamon to begin with. I wonder what.
The soil it grows in has gromril particles in it.
 
I think we need to take a break once the Hold is complete, I think a turn of doing nothing but churning out toys and paying caravans to deliver them to the other north hold's valaya temples should be relaxing enough for snorri. :V
 
The soil it grows in has gromril particles in it.
Particulates, but no Gromril node. But, true.

Could be that just inserting some Gromril, or Oathgold?, into the soil could be enough.

Actually, that's a thought -- maybe we could try to pull off a Goldwood to go with the Silverwood? Perhaps call it Brynwut (to go with Azrilwut the Silverwood and Brynduraz the bright shining gem)? Brynwut and Goldoak as a name.
 
The only problem was that while they tasted better than stone, that wasn't a particularly difficult bar to cross, and the Farmers Guild were having a bit of a difficult time marketing them beyond anything more than a useful siege store and medicine.
I don't think you need the and, and the were should be was.
 
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[X] Plan: If It Isn't Broken
-[X] [Commander Name]: Name the position of Commander for The Hearth Guard, or more accurately for Rudil, because the boy has found himself taking on many of the duties the position entails more by accident than any real desire for it.
--[X] Hearth Lord
-[X] [Champion Name]: Name the position of Champion of The Hearth Guard
--[X] Keeper of the Flame
-[X] [Champion Purpose]: What will the Champion's purpose be.
--[X] Exemplar: The Champion is to be the greatest example of what it means to be a Hearthwarden. One who understands intrinsically what your group entails and goes above and beyond to fulfill its stated purpose

Honestly, none of the current Suggestions have the same gravitas Hearth Lord and Keeper of the Flame have. Fire Keeper in particular sounds like a dude whose job is to sit next to a fire with a pile of wood and a poker all day.
 
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