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I'm not too worried about it. If I was more concerned about having 0 hesitation rather than getting all the Movement of Things research and Elgi documents, I would be voting for a different plan.
 
What makes you say that?

Probably this. I don't think it is anything spoiler, but, in adherence to tradition, I'm going to spoiler it because it is an update to the Character sheet.

Those who fought alongside him in the Avenging of Karag Dum speak of his silver armour and the flaming hammer he used to break open its gates and sunder foes beyond the scope of most Dawi almost entirely on his lonesome.
 
[X] Plan Almost Full Throttle

Both the leading plans are alright, but I prefer this one because it has 0 Hesitance, and doesn't clean her out of everything.
 
Gotta say, I am very tempted by those new commissions. The Valkyries and Yorri's in particular, but even the wedding gift would be cool.

Also, is it time to expand the size of the Hearth Guard? Because I see a lot of cool specialties in the recruitment pool now we didn't have before. Monster Hunters, The Order of the Watchers
We gotta wait for our man Brana, who you wrote into existence :V

EDIT. Well dang. Either way, i would wait with increasing the size until such a time when Nightfeather is available for recruitment.
 
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[ ] [Simple] Armoured Maidens: [Cost: 12 actions] Due end of Turn 40. Productivity Like no Other will proc. Gain 70 Favour and 1 Standing with the Cult of Valaya. Snorri thinks another patron might be found by end of Turn 35. The Clergy of Valaya are making plans to expand the Valkyrie Guard in preparation for what they believe is a coming wave of colonization across the Karaz Ankor in the future. Given your history with the Cult, they've come to you wondering if you had the inclination to create armour for some of the future Valkyrie Guard that will no doubt come from the endeavour. The number is not the sum total of suits, but ones specially made for their eldest and most veteran Matrons. The foundational core of the future Valkyrie Guard in these future-Holds. The Cult will hold the suits in their vaults until such a time they are needed.
- [ ] Accept
This one would get us the Cult of Valya's next Standing reward, which would be nice.
 
How long does it take Snorri to even learn all the Runes from the Rune Trades? I guess Snorri does it in his free time that he doesn't dedicate to Runesmithing? I can't imagine that Master Runes are easy to learn.
 
well, the First Great Incursion has been pushed back at the moment, but Aenarion is still the king of the Elves at the moment. Malekith is still loyal, Morathi is still a scheming bitch, and not all of the Ancestor's have disappeared yet. So we have until the Ancestor's all depart to worry about the Elves being Elves
Seduce Morathi
 
[X] Plan Unga Bunga Full Throttle
We should accept the Armoured Maidens, but after going all on the Karak Dum survivor help next turn. While the actions for that are locked in, we can do the Armoured Maidens, the Wedding and Yorri's throughout that time and finish off Odd Places while we are at it.
After that and when the current apprentices go out on their Journeys, we can hunker down for Mind of Things, Rune Metal and Gromril chain research, and can probably squeeze in Meteorfall, Mountainsoul and Adamant Maker combo compressions and understand the Master Rune of Purification.
 
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Current date is 222 A.P.
The War of Vegenance kicks off in 2326 and the Time of Woes happens in 3023.

Considering each turn is ~10 years, we have time.
That's not a lot of time. 2326/10 = 232.6 Turns - 21 Turns = 211.6 Turns remaining. Only looks like a lot of time.

Research actions take a very long time to complete. Wether it be Rune Research or material research. It's been over 100 years and Snorri still has yet to complete Yorri's material search quest. What has seen priority is other stuff like weapon making, without building upon Snorri`s rune knowledge for ten-twenty turns.
 
@soulcake is our standing with the various cults global or local? Like if we travelled to Zorn would we still have 6 standing with the cult of Valaya or would it drop to -5 because the priestesses down there don't know us from Jack? I guess the real underlying question I should be asking is how organised are the various cults? AFAIK the cult of Thungni is a bit wierd because it just the runesmiths but is there a set hierarchy to the others?
 
Right, first can someone summaries the difference between almost full throttle and unga bunga? Apologies I am just in a hurry. I think the main difference is one takes research and the other gets more books???

Second while I imagine priority is to the Grimnir gronti, I have an idea in mind that if we do get an Ulthani archmage friend to make a high magic/runic dragon or griffon gronti. It feels awesome to me.

@soulcake these are for you my apologies.
1. Is Snorri concerned about the potential side effects of wearing the armour for too long? While undeniably epic, no sleep and infinite energy sounds like it'd have...long term deleterious effects psychologically. Potentially addictive ones. I understand that dwarf psychology isn't human psychology they're made of tougher stuff, but I also believe in being prepared.
2. What does Snorri know about the winds of magic? I think he knows they exist I imagine as runecraft is in no small part about taking magic and taming it, but as far as he's concerned is one wind the same as any other at the moment? All raw fuel for the stuff of rune making?
3. How will these books work? Is it more actions to read them, or will it be a background in turn thing where Snorri will read, digest and then we get the relevant results automatically as they come?
 
yes, if your recruit rolls are kind you can indeed get a Brana if you have the space.
So will we still have a subvote as per
@bird yells I have made your omake Canon, but Im making Nightfeather's recruitment require etiher a long enough amount of time to pass or a few crits to appear, which will then trigger a subvote because its a major decision to make, and accepting him will obviously have consequences.
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Also I'm all for expanding the heath guard now.
Edit1-I mean I was before too but ya know this is kinda awesome
 
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Right, first can someone summaries the difference between almost full throttle and unga bunga? Apologies I am just in a hurry. I think the main difference is one takes research and the other gets more books???
Unga Bunga goes for 1 Hesitance and all the book and Movement of Things. Almost Full Throttle goes for more runic stuff and 0 Hesitance.

[X] Plan Almost Full Throttle

Both the leading plans are alright, but I prefer this one because it has 0 Hesitance, and doesn't clean her out of everything.
The 0 Hesitance yeah, but Unga Bunga takes less from her.
 
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