Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Sabrina seemed to find the sonic shower rather disturbing.
I think I can pinpoint the exact moment we got lost in thought creating the thing:
This bit of text took almost half an hour.
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noahgab1133
Fluffy?
so how long can sabrina lose herself for without realizing it?
we know the average is 30 minutes, but can we shorten it? Extend it? Develop something with magic not grief to help us notice and not lose ourselves?
we must answer these questions before seriously going into grief constructs or familiars
we know the average is 30 minutes, but can we shorten it? Extend it? Develop something with magic not grief to help us notice and not lose ourselves?
we must answer these questions before seriously going into grief constructs or familiars
- Location
- Chicago, IL
OK, I have an interesting hypothesis now: Sabrina loses time whenever she uses Grief to produce a region of space operating under alternate physics. Consider several ways of accomplishing the shower:
In other news, if my hypothesis is correct, either you've actually made two Barriers, or the shower counts as a familiar (capable of independent reality-warping).
- Shower emits water. Shower is a Grief construct that requires no physics breaking or magic on the part of itself or its user.
- Shower emits high-power femtosecond-pulsed holography to selectively ablate grime throughout the entire 3D volume. Shower is a Grief construct that has no physical principle of operation, instead using magic. However, the action (a pulse of coherent light, modulated to interfere constructively in specific voxels) is completely physical, so the reality-warping is confined to the Grief itself.
- Shower fills with water and emits high-intensity ultrasonic waves, inducing cavitation. The resulting field of tiny water jets produce a thorough scrubbing action. This is a common parts-cleaning process and requires no physics-breaking, like 1.
- Shower fills with air and does sonic stuff. Cavitation is impossible since the medium is a gas. Removing contaminants as in 3 without scorching the user is impossible in principle. Absent specification of a physical mechanism, the shower will apply some sort of reality-warping to function as a "sonic shower". Shower requires its own reality-warping powers, available to apply to arbitrary objects without Sabrina's input.
In other news, if my hypothesis is correct, either you've actually made two Barriers, or the shower counts as a familiar (capable of independent reality-warping).
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
30 minutes is not the average, it's the longest any Grief creation has taken us so far.
Well, it doesn't use water.
The barrier itself didn't seem to take long at all to make; it's the stuff inside, which might or might not be optional; the Grief Shower and other Grief objects are the same kind of stuff we filled the Barrier with.
Slith10
Back from the dead and ready to party!
- Location
- New Zealand
'...Your familiar is a SHOWER!?!'
'What can I say, I like being clean.'
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
EDIT: I got confused.
A thought:
It might be possible to make Grief objects that don't trigger our friends' anti-Witch instincts.
Why? Because we've already made a Grief object that doesn't trigger a specific meguca's Witch senses:
The Barrier itself. While normal Grief objects trigger Sabrina's senses as well as anybody else's, this one doesn't affect Sabrina that way.
It might be possible to learn to attune specific Grief objects to specific megucas, allowing us to use Grief stuff in everyday life, so long as we don't need to see anybody magical outside our normal circle of friends.
Of note, the reason the Barrier didn't affect Sabrina's senses might be in how she made it; she didn't simply will it up, but focused on how she had analyzed another Barrier worked beforehand. Of course, it might just be a conceptual thing, but I figure it can be done.
A thought:
It might be possible to make Grief objects that don't trigger our friends' anti-Witch instincts.
Why? Because we've already made a Grief object that doesn't trigger a specific meguca's Witch senses:
The Barrier itself. While normal Grief objects trigger Sabrina's senses as well as anybody else's, this one doesn't affect Sabrina that way.
It might be possible to learn to attune specific Grief objects to specific megucas, allowing us to use Grief stuff in everyday life, so long as we don't need to see anybody magical outside our normal circle of friends.
Of note, the reason the Barrier didn't affect Sabrina's senses might be in how she made it; she didn't simply will it up, but focused on how she had analyzed another Barrier worked beforehand. Of course, it might just be a conceptual thing, but I figure it can be done.
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Omegastar
fear the {CENSORED}.
probably need to focus a day or two on it when we have the chance. maybe see another barrier as well.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Checking, I guess that's right.
The Witchy feeling and the 'Wrong' feeling are different things.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
The witchy feeling is "This is Grief."
The 'wrong' feeling is "This is Grief, but it's not mine, even though I wished to control all Grief! Error! Paradox!"
It's 'wrong' to us the same way witches are 'wrong' to Godoka.
The 'wrong' feeling is "This is Grief, but it's not mine, even though I wished to control all Grief! Error! Paradox!"
It's 'wrong' to us the same way witches are 'wrong' to Godoka.
- Location
- South Africa
As stated, the shower and barrir aren't the only times we've lost time. Fir has indicated we've lost time every time we've made any grief construct (barring the wings and musical instruments?)
A sliding scale of Witchiness
| Sabrina's reaction | Other meguca's reactions | |
|
Solid/Inert Grief Eg. Grief marbles Grief spheres Mobile Oppression Fortress Nanofog |
Meh. Grief is Grief is Grief | OK, there's something there, but not really sure what it is... |
|
Gaseous/Raw/Energetic Grief Eg. Fresh from Soul Gem Wings Enchanted but not specifically active Grief as per [1] |
OK, that feels kinda but not quite Witchy... | |
|
Enchanted Grief Eg.Enchanted Grief Chibi[1] |
Witch? Kind of weak... | |
|
Active Grief Eg. MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGAAN |
Witch! There's a Witch! | |
| Sabrina's Barrier | WIIIIIIITCH | |
| Grief under Witch control | Bad wrong no bad | WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH |
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Omegastar
fear the {CENSORED}.
will this be put in the front page with the others?
NephyrisX
Luck is my dump stat. And the dice shows.
- Location
- Singapore
Grief under Sabrina's control: WIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTCCCCCCHHHHHHHH
pantherasapiens
you were always my best friend
- Location
- somewhere over your shoulder
Grief-tranced Sabrina: "MAY WE BURN HER"
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
I love how this is still a thing
we should totally call it that next time we use it!
I wouldn't object if someone did, and I'd submit an advertisement request, but I won't solicit anyone to do it, either. (I'm personally quite meh regarding the ads.)
Done, under 'Useful Information'.
*twitch* Didn't notice the spelling mistake. Fixed.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I thought her name was Euroguca.
Maybe we can intercept her if she's close. We would need to try one of the 'Grief vehicle' ideas... and explain to Homumom why we're going sooooo out of our way to help Oriko...
Or maybe Oriko can See her phone number, or something. Can't telepathy someone we haven't met.
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