Holy crab why are there so many red names at the bottom what happened.
Ok so the current vote seems... Acceptable, but I can't help but wonder if it would be true that mentioning things about walpy might overshadow the rest of what was talked about tonight.
So I'm going to do something wild and post a counter vote.
[X] Hugs and follow-ups , now that the major portion of our talk is over with.
[X] A few other key points we wish to go over.
-[X] We have some information that we would like to share with Homura sometime. However, due to the nature of this information, we feel that revealing it now would distract from the conversation we just had with her, so we'll ask her if she would like to hear it now, or later within the next day or so. If she asks to hear it later, skip the portions highlighted in yellow. If she asks to hear it now:
--[X] You've been sitting on information about Walpurgisnacht for a couple of reasons -- mostly you weren't sure how Homura would react and weren't interested in risking it at the time.
---[X] In the event this causes a fuss, just be calm about it and accept that Homura has some Pretty Good Reasons to be annoyed at you for not sharing information about Walpurgisnacht with Akemi Homura.
---[X] Walpurgisnacht is vastly more powerful than they believe, but also insane in a way that allows it to be killed.
----[X] Lay out Walpurgisnacht's obsession with drama and its ability to no-sell whatever it pleases.
-----[X] Tragic loops mean a tragic stage on which Walpurgisnacht chooses to be invincible.
-----[X] All previous damage has been inflicted at its pleasure.
-----[X] Madoka is the only person who has ever killed it and she does it via trope: "the self-sacrificing pure-hearted heroine." The intent, action, and paid cost (her life) are what have made this possible in the past, not some special power.
//First part of this line is for Mami's benefit -- she doesn't know anything about previous WPN fights
------[X] We have better options because Mitakihara does not need to be a tragedy.
-------[X] Key points:
--------[X] Don't let anyone die.
--------[X] Help others overcome their major problems.
--------[X] PLAN FOR THE FUTURE so that Walpurgisnacht is not "The End."
--------[X] A full plan for fighting Walpurgisnacht can never work because dramatically, plans go wrong. But having cards to turn over for the fight helps.
---------[X] At this point only one weapon has ever killed Walpurgisnacht. It would be best to have That Bow for the fight, but without Madoka contracting. Homura did mention she needed a nonlethal option, and you think it should be possible.
[X] You haven't previously contested Kyubey's claim to only speak the truth. From a human perspective, it is willing to tell outright lies: it's a lie to take something you know is surely impossible and frame it as possible, and it's done exactly that to kill Kyouko before. You have no hard evidence of it ever, say, blatantly claiming something real doesn't exist -- but it has essentially infinite experience compared to us, we have no functional way of knowing whether or not it's effectively lying at any given time, only the constant knowledge that
it wants us dead and doesn't give a damn about what's right or wrong.
[X] Kyubey wanted Mami alone and dependent on it, and it certainly had the means to achieve that. What little information you have pertinent to that should come another time as part of a different topic, but -- there might be value to reexamining the various losses she suffered? You seriously doubt Kyubey didn't abet
any of them, and if that information could change
anything...
Sorry
@Kaizuki I kinda... well no, I pretty much stole your vote, but I felt as though Homura should be given the option to hear this tonight, instead of us just springing this on her.
Feel free to completely steal this vote if you want BTW
. Jk
