Not sure what you mean? Like at this point we can't really do that, but Snake bat Iron Obsidian dragon, is definitely one that we should reject without it having further evidence to prove its existence, but can't do that either really...

Pretend we are both priests, i come up with the explanation of how these giant bones end up within stones by citing vitrol magic.

Then you ask how that works since these dragons does not seem capable of producing the vitrol needed to encase something in stone. I respond with magic dragons produces vitrol within their body it is the observation of alchemy reaction and different living organisms capable of producing different things. (Cow-Milk, Snake-poison, etc)

By having these kind of thought provoking conversation, we both expanded our understanding of the world even if we reached no agreement.
 
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Pretend we are both priests, i come up with the explanation of how these giant bones end up within stones by citing vitrol magic.

Then you ask how that works since these dragons does not seem capable of producing the vitrol needed to encase something in stone. I respond with magic dragons produces vitrol within their body it is the observation of alchemy reaction and different living organisms capable of producing different things. (Cow-Milk, Snake-poison, etc)

By having these kind of thought provoking conversation, we both expanded our understanding of the world even if we reached no agreement.
I mean I understand how they came to their conclusion, but it doesn't make it less ridiculous just because I know how they got there. Its called Modern Bias, so w/e :p
 
We can't? How is that wisdom then? Step one is to admit that you don't know and THEN to discover what it is, but pretty sure our priest tried to do that to chuckle worthy results.
I am pretty sure that is what he meant.
He is saying we cannot just leave as an unknown answer. We have to look into it and try and find an answer.

That it is incorrect is merely an artefact of how little information they have to work with.
 
A weak central authority has rarely been a good thing for the common folk. A strong king will curtail the power of nobility and ensure that laws are obeyed all around the realm. Without a strong central authority the nobles are basically a law unto themselves. This will fragment the realm, hampering trade and travel, and turn local nobles to petty tyrants.

tl;dr: Diluting state power will lead to more oppression and possibly even anarchy if trade and supply routes collapse.

it was always good, the problem is that historical great nobles where mini centralized states of their own.

And the definition and nature of nobility is not uniform. they don't have to be patricians, the village alderman for example could rule the village and he is no aristocrat by traditional standards. The dilution of state powers would only cause problems if it was haphazard, meaning if a provincial chief was granted absolute authority over the provinces then yes it would likely cause problems(he just became a small central state), but if the dilution is down to the lower levels, then power is far too localized for abuse.
Localized power means that the elite are beholden to their subjects, as their domain over them is immediate. So the alderman in charge of the village is powerful yes, but he is such so long as the villagers of said village allow him to be such. And if power is decentralized enough, then the local elites would be tied to their locales. And unlike with centralized power, the subjects actually have power over their lords.

Also, if the infrastructure breaks down to such an extent that trade and supplies collapse, then we are at a crises of civilization anyways.
 


What if a Culture Genius was an actor who can play any part to perfection. His "madness" was that he understood the truth of the world. That life is was a game played by all powerful gods. So he would play his part the best he can. (Basically the first person to ever be meta and break the fourth wall.)



Now, what I mainly want to deal with is how to keep our nation from breaking apart. Would Nationalism or something help? Like today is would practically be unthinkable of one of the states seceding unless something extreme happening. What I want is that even if our people argue and fights sometimes we will always come together in tough times and not break apart.

Also I want us to try and preserve knowledge. Like in modern day information is surprisingly fragile. Everything decays and if people disappeared so will the knowledge they had eventually. I think we should take a page off the Khemtri's book and find a desert or taiga to burry our texts in to preserve them.
 
Holy Shit, I just figured out the mortal form of our Green Goddess Fythhagyna was the Granddaughter of Gwygoytha, Fthgoya, see the chapters Disappointment and Coastal Developments.

She was the King during the discovery of the Blight
 
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What if a Culture Genius was an actor who can play any part to perfection. His "madness" was that he understood the truth of the world. That life is was a game played by all powerful gods. So he would play his part the best he can. (Basically the first person to ever be meta and break the fourth wall.)



Now, what I mainly want to deal with is how to keep our nation from breaking apart. Would Nationalism or something help? Like today is would practically be unthinkable of one of the states seceding unless something extreme happening. What I want is that even if our people argue and fights sometimes we will always come together in tough times and not break apart.

Also I want us to try and preserve knowledge. Like in modern day information is surprisingly fragile. Everything decays and if people disappeared so will the knowledge they had eventually. I think we should take a page off the Khemtri's book and find a desert or taiga to burry our texts in to preserve them.

No. No nationalism.
 
Holy Shit, I just figured out the mortal form of our Green Goddess Fythhagyna was the Granddaughter of Gwygoytha, Fthgoya, see the chapters Disappointment and Coastal Developments.

She was the King during the discovery of the Blight
If I had any idea where to start, I would make her the One True Goddess, Monotheism 4 teh win :D
 
Holy Shit, I just figured out the mortal form of our Green Goddess Fythhagyna was the Granddaughter of Gwygoytha, Fthgoya, see the chapters Disappointment and Coastal Developments.

She was the King during the discovery of the Blight
oh dang
I didn't even notice that - Good catch!
 
I was wondering about that too, especially since with 44 votes (by line) [] Kick got the same amount that [] specify Admin Genius, which got locked in, has. But, counting subvotes is different in every quest so I don't know how AN handles it.
Kicking is a opt in vote so it needs half of the total votes for it to be valid.

EDIT: Blackbird again
 
Yes, the last thing we want is a caste system. Not sure what would fix the problem though.

a caste system is formed when when the children follow in the foot steps of there parents for a few generations by that point culture and traditions make impossible to advances

best way is to have all the children educated together so when they are adults. people from a higher class will help put their friends into favorable positions
 
That would be odd as AN told us that's not how the Genius vote worked. Would be a strange distinction.
The genius vote still needed 50% of the total votes to be any subvote. 50%+ of voters needed to say they wanted to specify, it just didn't need individual specifications to do so. Since kicking only has the one subvote, that subvote needs 50% on its own.
 
I've been spending an unjustifiable amount of time thinking about the situation in the Americas. (because I live there)(and am given to extreme flights of fancy.)
It was kinda a combination of factors that screwed them over in reality, like a mass extinction of nearly every domesticatible animal on those continents and a near complete lack of idea, tool, and crop diffusion both among the major local civilisations and between them and the rest of the world, and a late start both on agriculture, and on when they managed to breed certain critical crops into easy growability.

So this would be easy to change, have the domesticable animals survive, set up the central Mesoamerican civilisations as enthusiasic seaborne raiders/traders/colonisers to facilitate idea diffusion, juggle the positions of the Pacific Islands so the Polynesian waves of expansion don't peter out before reaching the Americas, and/or just do what is implied right now(what with the existence of the mediterranean black sea) and make Greenland warmer and better able to support a European style population, agriculture and trees so the Not!Vikings, or their equivalent can support early colonization efforts towards North America. (which can either succeed or at least cause idea diffusion)
Honesty even only one of these things would leave existing cultures of the area in a better position to be politically relevant.

Also clearly Terror Birds must survive to be domesticated as hunting, then riding beasts in South America, whimsy demands it.(and maybe some of South America's other bizarre fauna with them)
I'm imagining it now, the Incan empire's or Amazon river civilisation's quick responding terror bird cavalry lined up to charge against the hordes of viking raiders and drive them back into the sea.
 
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