- Location
- Illinois
Well, the only way we'd get that is through experience, or roads/canals.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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I wonder if we'll get a boatload of prestige from opening up the Artisan Games. In the normal games we've basically been trashed for the last few centuries, barely getting any prestige. But with the artisan games opening up, we should dominates those for centuries to come.
Pretty useful.
There's also the whole war thing. We've got the Forhuth to kill which should give us a good bit of prestige plus it's looking likely that we'll be pulled into the HK war this turn as well. Both of those should give us even more prestige.
Now if only we were using that prestige for anything...
Pretty useful.
There's also the whole war thing. We've got the Forhuth to kill which should give us a good bit of prestige plus it's looking likely that we'll be pulled into the HK war this turn as well. Both of those should give us even more prestige.
Now if only we were using that prestige for anything...
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- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Well it does make us a bigger prestige pinata.
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A Gilded Age is coming up. We might be able to spend it.
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- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I wish that prestige would "empower pride in acceptance". Allow us to drain the people around us constantly without them having a stab lose.
Then again the Artisan games might cause it to upgrade so we don't just drain economy, but tech (the stat). Brain drain.
Then again the Artisan games might cause it to upgrade so we don't just drain economy, but tech (the stat). Brain drain.
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If anything, I'd say our heavy investment into things they suppressed would have pissed them off.
Pushing the guild.... it's like...
"You want wealth right? When then, go and make all the wealth, even if you to work to the death"
I'd say... Guild will gain faction power from fulfilling our push. And their spite quest will be even nastier I guess.
I'd expect many low ranking Guild members to die from exhaustion. And the Guild leaders will use that to extract power for themselves.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We really ought to do our best to prevent a gilded age. We can't afford the stability and we need overflow to stay productive right now.
Actually, I expect to drop into -1 stab from bumrush.
-1 Kick is so that we don't drop into -2 stab.
Not me.
I wonder how the usual nomad scenario changes when the settled nomads actually have a home we can assault.
Theoretically speaking, we could take half our ginormous army and just march for the Forhuch lands. All manoeuvring won't help them if they end up having to defend their own settlements, and that is something where our infantry would perform better even against massed cavalry as defeat in detail is vastly harder.
Theoretically speaking, we could take half our ginormous army and just march for the Forhuch lands. All manoeuvring won't help them if they end up having to defend their own settlements, and that is something where our infantry would perform better even against massed cavalry as defeat in detail is vastly harder.
Ymaryn Strategy Meeting
The problem is logistics. They can raid our logistic supply unless the army is able to live off the land.
- Location
- Austria
I'd much rather fires fucked off for more than...uh....a turn?
We had one-turn breather after plague, then slavery dispute and HK on warpath happened.
Granted, this fire is, in a way, our own fault - PK makes society volative, and we have nothing society-calcifying, so we are always going to set ourselves on fire because of PK+PiA making us open to stuff and prone to debating and whatnot.
Nice. Even if we don't use as much Yeomen as we used to - nowadays it's "All the levies".
- Location
- Illinois
So, thinking about it a bit more, I think we are making a mistake in planning our goals. We're assuming Forhuch is going to be Nomad Horde 2.0: The Horse Nazis Return.
But from what we know about their situation, their goals are completely different from that of a nomad horde's.
But they don't plan to destroy everything. They want useable land, slaves, settlements, all the good stuff. We might be able to use this to give us a fighting chance, if we are willing to use the lost territory to our advantage.
[X] [Inno] Looks important, invest heavily (-3 Wealth, -3 Mysticism, -1 Tech, ???)
[X] [AG] They may join (Open games, ???)
[X] [Policy] Switch to Mass Levy
[X] [Kick] 2 Stability, 4 Temp Econ damage
[X] [Trade] Push the guilds to the limit to meet demands (Trade Tech for Wealth, up to 5 per phase, to attempt to top up Wealth)
As such, I'm switching to the 2 stab hit to make it so that every inch of land he takes is only taken by fighting through oceans of blood and fire. We know that higher kicks makes our people start to do more and more insane things. If we can't counter the Forhuch with our vanguard, then we make it seem as if fighting that vanguard is to fight madmen. Then when our Levies show up, we might be able to break their morale.
After all, if our vanguard fought so fearsomely, what would our main army do?
But from what we know about their situation, their goals are completely different from that of a nomad horde's.
The key word here is conquest. They aren't coming just to raid and pillage, they want to take our land. If they followed the Pure's idea of destroying every settlement they came across, we would have no way to pin them down, and we would be stuck reacting to an enemy that has far faster reaction time than we do.
But they don't plan to destroy everything. They want useable land, slaves, settlements, all the good stuff. We might be able to use this to give us a fighting chance, if we are willing to use the lost territory to our advantage.
The other thing is that this king is not his predecessor. He's an example of a common problem, a man who comes after a truly impressive historical figure, and feels as if anything he does is compared unfavorably to his predecessor. This is a massive weak point, especially in their society. If we can get people to doubt his leadership, to believe that he massively fucked up by warring against us, we have a strong chance of either toppling him or starting an enemy civil war.
[X] [Inno] Looks important, invest heavily (-3 Wealth, -3 Mysticism, -1 Tech, ???)
[X] [AG] They may join (Open games, ???)
[X] [Policy] Switch to Mass Levy
[X] [Kick] 2 Stability, 4 Temp Econ damage
[X] [Trade] Push the guilds to the limit to meet demands (Trade Tech for Wealth, up to 5 per phase, to attempt to top up Wealth)
As such, I'm switching to the 2 stab hit to make it so that every inch of land he takes is only taken by fighting through oceans of blood and fire. We know that higher kicks makes our people start to do more and more insane things. If we can't counter the Forhuch with our vanguard, then we make it seem as if fighting that vanguard is to fight madmen. Then when our Levies show up, we might be able to break their morale.
After all, if our vanguard fought so fearsomely, what would our main army do?
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- USA
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- He/Him
Not really? Slaughtered by nomads isn't my idea of a good time.
PyroTechno
The Procrastination Pokemon
Oh yes, I suspected that this will be a bloodbath, but it is a kind of war that I can get behind, though.
Even though I hate war.
- Location
- Austria
Yeah, point of Mass Levy+All The Kick is basically "flex real hard so that every neighbour thinks real hard whether they want to go at it with us".
- Location
- Illinois
@Academia Nut does kicking increase the speed in which the levies are called up?
Raise army and retrain in the same turn has long been said by those of us that want a military reform to likely push our military more towards a term of service or genuinely stronger direction. It would make us more militarized, yes, but we border the steps, we're going to be militarized. This would do so in a more professional way.
- Location
- USA
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- He/Him
I think it's also a good way to weaken the caste nature of our society.