I have been a long proponent of expansion, but I think we've got easily enough land area now. Our primary goals should be consolidation and reinforcement, particularly of our new lowland holdings. Integration is thus of vital importance. It also gives us tons of econ and LTE, which will be good for keeping the Golden Age running and hopefully restarting the Baby Boom.

I would like to note just how amazing Infrastructure passive policy is. I'd strongly consider getting one more, especially since they can build Governer's Palaces.
 
He's thinking Algebra, because it vastly simplifies administrative math if you can use it to backsolve discrepancies and find out that the 500 bwyll going missing for the past three years was all happening at one granary.
I've always found it funny how intuitive some of this stuff seems. "Just solve for the unknown." But when the entire idea is foreign it is an amazing concept.
 
Hence, unnecessary abuse of animals for amusement rests poorly with our priesthood because to them this is the first step on the path that leads to people treating other people the same way.
But then you have Crow the Trickster trolling the heck out everyone :D
Historia of (Mid-Teens) Ymaryn: Highschool Woes (4)
See, posts like this always helps bring little details to the fore.

For example, this little Omake reminds me that unlike every other polity around us, war is negative for us. We get no Econ from it and only lose martial. Even now that we ate a whole bunch of land, we only gain new responsibilities, and no tribute.

This is probably the biggest contributor to our form of combat. War is not an opening of possibilities, but a drain of resources. Thus something that should be finished as quickly as possible.
[X] [GA] Gain random genius (-15 Culture)
-[X] [GA] Specify: Admin genius (Additional -3 Culture)
[X] [FC] Redhills
[X] [Diplo] Talk with the Trelli (Main Trade Mission - Trelli)
[X] [React] Continue work on the Place to the Stars (5/7-8 actions completed)
-[X] [React] Kick project (ISoO already triggered this turn)
Note: If you want only one city, you are required to also vote for [] [FC] Just one FC. Otherwise AN takes the top two cities.
Rote Knowledge. Wrote is something else.
 
If you have enough overflow, you can keep getting upgrades without Early Iron Bringers, too. So I don't get what argument you are making here.
Well, as one example, if we want innovation for a particular stat, we can wait for it to fill up while still advancing materials every turn.

Also, the more stats we keep maxed, the less chance of an unexpected event popping the Golden Age.

And we don't have to care as much about which stats are overflowing; so long as we have eight surplus tech, we're good. Particularly important as we gain provinces and raise our stat caps.
 
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E: admittedly, *some* kind of meritocratic exam is probably better than none, but we should watch out for pitfalls.
basically my opinion

you can't stack an exam any more than you can stack a promotion system that's based on favors and nepotism

the exam, at least, will make sure that people who get in have at least some standard of knowledge in addition to their connections.
 
I for one can say that the analyses you guys do is eldritch abominations for me on the math front, because i can't understand whom you do it XD.
Ehh, most of that's more being careful and double checking that you didn't forget an action or copy a sign wrong or anything, and otherwise just knowing and remembering how the mechanics work, combined with a willingness to ask AN about unusual expenses or gains :p

...Of course, that first part is like 80% of math errors in my experience, the middle bit is pretty similar to remembering all the random formulas and rules for math which is also one of hte hardest things about most math courses (fucking trig identities and unique differentials and integrals! :mad:), and the last part just makes me think of how hard it can be to get my students to actually ask fucking questions when they're stuck, or to stop and think about their answer before telling me that the answer to the division is bigger than both numbers that went into the division...
So yeah, i guess the analysis posts do require the usual mistakes i see from students :p

I guess. But basic algebra... Well, if ever there was something you use at least once a week no matter who you are it's that.
Intuitively, yeah. I'm sure the People were intuitively using the logic as well. But formalizing it? Being able to look at a math equation and actually convert it in your head to that logic? A lot of the time kids just have to basically memorize what the different types of equations mean, they never actually internalize that. That's why word problems are so hard. And of course, "look at or hear a real life situation and figure out what math strategies to use and where the numbers go in that equation" is kind of necessary to be able to actually use it as a formal tool--and i have zero trouble believing that its really hard to formalize that, given the blank stares i've been given at even simple word problems

Well, as one example, if we want innovation for a particular stat, we can wait for it to fill up while still advancing materials every turn.

Also, the more stats we keep maxed, the less chance of an unexpected event popping the Golden Age.

And we don't have to care as much about which stats are overflowing; so long as we have eight surplus tech, we're good.
But in order to get that eight surplus tech* we do need to care about which stats are overflowing in that at minimum culture and mysticism both need to be maxed for anything to overflow into tech. Mind, those plus diplo are relatively easy to keep maxed, and we have +6 diplo, +2 mysticism, and will have +4 culture soon, but we also just emptied out our culture, so...

*Actually only 7, thanks to our refund from teh palace annexes
 
Does anyone else find it amazing that this thread has 500 more pages than the third place quest which has 4.5x the word count.
We are rapidly gaining on PMAS, a quest with 3x the word count, with only 1000 more pages to go.
Truly this quest is insane, and the people participating even more so.
 
What about military exams?
We can pretty much weed out the muscle-heads and crazies with military exams.
What would be the actual entrance exams?
Weight-lifting and running? *totally not Yeomen biased exam*
 
fucking trig identities and unique differentials and integrals! :mad:
Aaand I'll just go curl up into the fetal position now, thanks for reminding me of those damn things... :cry:

What about military exams?
We can pretty much weed out the muscle-heads and crazies with military exams.
What would be the actual entrance exams?
Weight-lifting and running? *totally not Yeomen biased exam*
Tactical simulation TTRPGs for the officer corps entrance exam?
 
But in order to get that eight surplus tech* we do need to care about which stats are overflowing in that at minimum culture and mysticism both need to be maxed for anything to overflow into tech. Mind, those plus diplo are relatively easy to keep maxed, and we have +6 diplo, +2 mysticism, and will have +4 culture soon, but we also just emptied out our culture, so...

Not a problem. We have 18 tech now, right? So, we can take a materials advance this turn, and next turn, and the one after, before it runs out - and the overflow will have topped it up long before then.

Of course, if we particularly want a different advance, we can. But the point is, we don't have to. We can keep getting materials advances without waiting for Tech to hit max, thus giving our overflow time to catch up.
 
What about military exams?
We can pretty much weed out the muscle-heads and crazies with military exams.
What would be the actual entrance exams?
Weight-lifting and running? *totally not Yeomen biased exam*
classes on tactics and then a practical, maybe; invent OCS
 
Not a problem. We have 18 tech now, right? So, we can take a materials advance this turn, and next turn, and the one after, before it runs out - and the overflow will have topped it up long before then.
Probably, yeah; i'm mostly just saying that its not perfect, and its not necessarily easy to manage; if we'd gone with a materials tech this turn, then i'd say we definitely could, but as is... depends on how expenses and the like go. Of course i also doubt we'll keep the golden age going for more than 3-4 turns. If we're lucky we'll hit 5, which is where i think the first legacy will be. But i will be shocked if we make it longer than 5, and i literally don't think its possible for the thread to manage 10 to match the Xoh's golden age :p

Aaand I'll just go curl up into the fetal position now, thanks for reminding me of those damn things...
No.
Please no.

This and higher order non-linear differential equations make we want to cry myself to sleep at night.

Thank god most of orbital mechanics is just multiplication and addition.
I think i've got enough muscle memory from classes that required memorizing them that i could probably draw you the trig identities table, but only so long as it was in the upper right corner of a test or quiz...and i'd probably need to draw it to actually tell you them myself :p
 
I guess. But basic algebra... Well, if ever there was something you use at least once a week no matter who you are it's that.

Fun fact, a major driver of the development of formal algebra was Islamic inheritance laws, because unlike previously when they got nothing, women got a half-share. This caused considerable headaches when you had multiple male and female heirs, until they actually had the formalization to write down:

I = 2MX + FX

Where I is the total inheritance, M is the number of male heirs, F is the number of female heirs, solve for X. Thus every female gets X and every male gets 2X.

Arabic numerals also transformed algebra from something that the Europeans once considered graduate level education for post-docs into something we teach elementary school children.

Math yo.
 
Tactical simulation TTRPGs for the officer corps entrance exam?

That would be interesting:
"Here, choose your pieces, each piece has a value x, but the addition of the points of all the pieces can't be over y, you have this hourglass of time to mount a winning strategy. the number of pieces on you kill, and the amount of pieces you don't lose will be counted into your final score, and i'm going to be your opponent"

With this people can actully measure with a officer has tactical acumen, strategical acumen, or both.
 
That would be interesting:
"Here, choose your pieces, each piece has a value x, but the addition of the points of all the pieces can't be over y, you have this hourglass of time to mount a winning strategy. the number of pieces on you kill, and the amount of pieces you don't lose will be counted into your final score, and i'm going to be your opponent"

With this people can actully measure with a officer has tactical acumen, strategical acumen, or both.
I am now imagining the second coming of Yenyna saying "I redirect this river to drown your camp. I win."
 
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