While i think you're right over all, it wasn't about the cities; we were told that cities after the first lowered the centralization cap literally as soon as we got Sacred City as one; if anything i think it was that we (IC and OoC) didn't know about the "admin-strain free provinces" bit that we know about now
Isn't it six?
It's a cost of 7, and we only have 1 refund for tech. We have 2 refund for mysticism, but not tech.
Oh since it's a thing being discussed, I like our Tech Refund. But I really want a tech income that doesn't come from a passive policy(those being somewhat valuable).
My immediate thought is Redhill for that sweet sweet metallurgy. I'd figure a library is the main place for that "repository of things that didn't work" that Desdydyn mentioned during the discovery of case hardening. And that kinda thing is really useful for technical progress as well as avoiding making the same mistakes during a project.
Great Forge seems likely to either include a tech drip OR to unlock a megaproject/extended project that gives a tech drip or refund (due to it being a major reworkign of how artisans work, as you've said before). Artisan Competitions seems almost certain to be a tech drip or tech refund, for that matter--and if its as cheap as the Games were...
I don't think Redshore makes it vulnerable to invaders. Whoever attacks it is coming by sea, into the biggest naval center in our civilization and the subsequent enormous ship production.
Where are you getting these megaprojects from? I can't see an action list since about five updates ago.
AN Posts
Trust me, i know about the lack of action list, it hurts me so much
But yeah, like Reader just half ninja'd me on, AN posts:(Suspected to be a "Great Forge" or "ironworks"
Can I just repeat how Crow-damned happy I am that we seem to have several things that are "anti-stupid" measures?
Heh, i actually have the opposite idea.
Incidentally, WE GOTTA MAKE BACKUPS OF EVERYTHING. PLS. LIKE, QUADRUPLE-REDUNDANCIES.
Yeah... we need more libraries and bigger walls.
Annnd here you see where I got my intuition.Heh, i actually have the opposite idea.
I think the Great Forge, since it focuses on production, and streamlining and focusing said production to capitalize on economy of scale, will be more likely to produce a tech drip, if it produces either (might be like the Great Docks and produce innovations per turn, nowthat we know thats possible...). Meanwhile the artisan competitions will ensure that techniques are shown and displayed and shared instead of hoarded, producing a tech refund if it does either (though that one actually might be the innovation per turn one, now that i think about it)
Hmm..Actually, yeah, innovations per turn makes sense for Artisan Competitions. And from a mechanics side instead of a narrative side, it makes sense for it to have a tech drip (based on number of true cities, like the Games' culture drip), while the Ironworks has extended projects to get more refunds a la the library.
So my narrative logic and my mechanical logic are at odds
Edit: Wait, random thought: Library+shrine+arsenal gave our existing tech refund. So it does make sense that hte Ironworks, which is unlocked in part by teh arsenal, would give us tech refund, yeah.
I think "Artisan, arts, and/or mechanical innovation rolls", with a limit like the "classical era" limit on the grand docks, would be pretty balanced for the games; much like with boats, there are a lot more incremental boosts we can get, compared to a hypothetical "bonus metal working innovation roll each turn" which would have to be very low odds, cause to my understanding metalworking has comparatively few, massively important innovations. Whereas "oh hey a new type of glaze!" or "crossbows now have an actual ratcheting system" or the like are balanced for "one of these every few turns if rolls stop being shit*
But every failed roll improves the odds of the next roll.*Seriously, we got nothing on Main forest, secondary metal, and secondary alchemy, with a mystic genius
Probably thanks to that repository of things to not do.
We set that up on purpose. Most of our early systems laid down during the Humility period and before that were cautions against idiots.
Well, main benefit there is probably economies of scale and workflow. Innovation drip is possible, but rather than a refund, the description fits a Tech Drip, as the massive scaling up would free up artisans on an enormous scale.
Artisanal competitions probably would be innovation drip now that we know it exists, as well as likely giving a Canal benefit or offsetting the Arete cost for Artisan projects
She was busy keeping them from pulling a Lol-Boom.*Seriously, we got nothing on Main forest, secondary metal, and secondary alchemy, with a mystic genius
