Which would be very relevant if we ever used Enforce Law. Our Centralization is too high for it to be beneficial.
So because the chance of activating the disadvantage is small, you choose the option which costs us Econ, gives us nothing, requires actions, and has a small chance of disadvantage over the option which has literally no downsides?
 
We already have past Heroic Kings with multiple wives. Mr "I can't bang all four of your daughters at once, Mr Foreign King, there's only one dick!"
Crwiid also has one. Our People don't particularly mind how many wives you have provided everyone is Harmonious about it

The dipo hero didn't take the four sisters home from the update. Do correct me if i remember it wrong.

And the first Martial hero took wifes as method of solidifying loyalty among the tribes.

So, it's not explicit one way or another.
 
[X] Take Attrikwyn's advice (+2 Diplomacy, secures enduring alliance with Highlands Kingdom, ensures no attacks from nomads for at least next turn)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
 
God damnit...

High five. That was great.
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on May 12, 2017 at 3:30 PM, finished with 154 posts and 34 votes.
 
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)

I'm not convinced we need to switch to a hereditary system. Sure it's the normal way for things to go, but it was already the normal way for things to go - if we were fated to end up hereditary, our current leadership system wouldn't exist.

And with our various ways of avoiding Stability hits and our relatively high Stability, I think we should take a hit and get some extra Econ. Baby Boom's gone!
 
Let´s just say that i don´t believe that we have to and i think the though that we will have to become an "normal" kindom" is really stupid.
Our Values as they are right now don´t support it.

It is impossible for us to become a "normal kingdom" without land ownership. The power of the ruling class is derived from the administration. that said a hereditary system will happen regardless. I would rather it happen under a heroic female character to help with gender bias.
 
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] The People always let in those that come to them (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)

I want to focus on the immigration choice here for a second. We're at +2 Stability, which certainly does mean we can afford more refugees. But remember we're going to have to Main Study Metal soon to take away the debilitating belief, and that will cost stability. I'd rather keep stability in reserve for this and for whatever other situations come about; the Econ in my opinion isn't valuable enough to be worth it.
 
I'm sorry, did most cultures where that happened regullarly have a noted investment in not killing the people in power? Assassination is not a part of our political structure and forms of social advancement. Yes it's done for settling grievances and that is used as a front for targeted, malicious kills, but we're not a culture where actual assassinations are politely ignored in the absence of direct evidence.

It is not a part of our political structure because we've repeatedly chosen to make it so; if we choose to cement the alliance, we will be quite influenced by HK culture where assassinating the king is a part of the political structure.
 
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
 
The dipo hero didn't take the four sisters home from the update. Do correct me if i remember it wrong.

And the first Martial hero took wifes as method of solidifying loyalty among the tribes.

So, it's not explicit one way or another.
It's explicit:
Hint: excess young male population with no prospects of marriage and the expectation of having multiple wives.
The Stallion Tribes have harems as the standard. Which is why he's reluctantly saying that Magwyna should adopt a harem and spread the practice so that all the chiefs are married to the sisters of all the other chiefs because obviously it's the best solution
 
[X] Take Attrikwyn's advice (+2 Diplomacy, secures enduring alliance with Highlands Kingdom, ensures no attacks from nomads for at least next turn)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
 
So because the chance of activating the disadvantage is small, you choose the option which costs us Econ, gives us nothing, requires actions, and has a small chance of disadvantage over the option which has literally no downsides?

We can't assume we won't be invaded ever. Also, I want my watchtowers for communication and rest stations, unless you want to manually build the watchtowers?

Because it's how it was done this era, for good reasons. We won't be able to resist it forever you know

We should do things that make sense for the Ymaryn, not what make sense for other kingdoms.

It is not a part of our political structure because we've repeatedly chosen to make it so; if we choose to cement the alliance, we will be quite influenced by HK culture where assassinating the king is a part of the political structure.

Sorry, marrying the daughter of HK is not "assassination politics".
 
It is not a part of our political structure because we've repeatedly chosen to make it so; if we choose to cement the alliance, we will be quite influenced by HK culture where assassinating the king is a part of the political structure.
I've rephrased my original post to better get my point across. Basically, we have enough options open that most people wont go for assassination, and those that do would probably do so anyway, regardless of family ties.
 
Uh...you're taking the guy's advice to take the harem and make it standard...
After a long moment of deliberation, he said, "For the good of the People I would recommend cementing such alliances with our neighbours, although perhaps the women from nomadic tribes should be married to chiefs in the northern provinces a bit closer to where their tribes are to better secure those places. I would also suggest that the families of the chiefs more strongly intermarry so as to reduce the possibility of descendants later being able to use family connections with foreigners against the People, for it would not be many families against each other, but one family."

Which part? The advice clearly stated spreading the marriage candidates among the northern families, with the King's son taking hand of Highland Kingdom's lady.

So citing your source?
 
is 'Family First'-like value of nomads Honour?

For the nomads as a whole, yes.

Can we send our myth points to March via holy (trade) mission? What about other civilization?

No.

Causi beli required. So, if the HK attack someone, we aren't obligated to defend the HK.

Ehhh... if they attacked someone for poor reasons you would be obligated to defend them but you could probably rightly go "We'll keep your people safe but we won't help you attack", which would annoy them but still mean that they could swing harder because they wouldn't need to maintain a defensive reserve.

can we have some idea?

Hmmm... the Stallion Tribes are a good 500-1000 km from Valleyhome I would say.

We already have past Heroic Kings with multiple wives. Mr "I can't bang all four of your daughters at once, Mr Foreign King, there's only one dick!"
Crwiid also has one. Our People don't particularly mind how many wives you have provided everyone is Harmonious about it

Actually, his embarrassment came from the implication that would get back that he couldn't and thus his wives would tease him that he was losing his touch.

To paraphrase Order of the Stick "I've always wondered what Heroic Diplomacy looks like under the hood."
 
[X] Take Attrikwyn's advice (+2 Diplomacy, secures enduring alliance with Highlands Kingdom, ensures no attacks from nomads for at least next turn)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)

God, I love our people.

*Lowlands get hit by plague we already told them how to prevent*
Us:"Dammit, guys... *sigh* Come over here if you don't want to get killed by a plague again."
 
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