Because parents are not the best judges of their children's faults.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Because parents are not the best judges of their children's faults.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
We're not a primogeniture monarchy though, we're elective. So the pool is limited to everyone inside the House of Magwyna, so what? That's still going to be a sizeable pool to elect from.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yes, precisely. And since they're on steppes adjacent to an ocean, most of the northern provinces are sparsely populated and clustered along the coast.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I don't know, I am split on the issue. There's merit to multiple approaches.
I am leaning towards listening to Attrikwyn here. He seems to know what he's talking about and he kinda deserves a bone fo-
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
I ain't stopping before all our Admin Heroes are in same-sex relationships, whether they want to or not!
I am leaning towards listening to Attrikwyn here. He seems to know what he's talking about and he kinda deserves a bone fo-
Okay, that settles it!
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
I ain't stopping before all our Admin Heroes are in same-sex relationships, whether they want to or not!
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[X] Take Attrikwyn's advice (+2 Diplomacy, secures enduring alliance with Highlands Kingdom, ensures no attacks from nomads for at least next turn)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
I want to go with this for a couple reasons. First off, remember what AN said about how heroes in this age are almost assured to become gods in the People's mythos? And how Magwyna shares parallels with Tuultox? If she marries them all, not only would the alliances be temporary, but it would only add to her mythos. Also in regards to creating greater equality among women having one woman leader and multiple "wives" who are objectified and seen as lesser would only emphasis the idea that while some women are exceptions their place is just to be married to a great leader.
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
I want to go with this for a couple reasons. First off, remember what AN said about how heroes in this age are almost assured to become gods in the People's mythos? And how Magwyna shares parallels with Tuultox? If she marries them all, not only would the alliances be temporary, but it would only add to her mythos. Also in regards to creating greater equality among women having one woman leader and multiple "wives" who are objectified and seen as lesser would only emphasis the idea that while some women are exceptions their place is just to be married to a great leader.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Huh, neat. How do we look compared to the front page map now? I assume Southshore is us cutting off the HK from the coast, for example.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Worst case that means someone incompetent becomes chief of a village, fails at his job, and gets replaced with someone else who can actually do the job! We're not throwing out any part of system with this, stop strawmannirg!
Actually, the SHP are settling that area too.
- Location
- Panama City
I already posted a system that bypasses this, called tanistry.
@Academia Nut how likely is it that a) we go hereditary with this vote, and B) we can get a tanistry system going for choosing heirs?
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Katsuragi
The 1%
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
You have a point, but it would be eroding the system... whether we can counteract that in time is up in the air.
- Location
- Austria
Because it's the only son (infant mortality ho!). Currently, incompetents are not even viable candidates for the kingship by definition; hereditary monarchy can easily create cases where (almost) all heirs are dead and the remaining one is either a moron or asshat.
Not sizeable enough to be even remotely comparable with our current pool of 'every chief'; which, incidentally, ensures lack of succession crises because all kids of King are dead and ensures that incompetents are not allowed to even be in the running.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
Well if you put it that way ...
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
Man.
Very good with the tongue huh?
More like:
*Lowlands get hit by plague we already told them how to prevent*
Us: "Hey guys, we brought lots of the expensive salt you need for the healing potion, for free!"
Based on the update I think we can update the trait name to Ancestral Honor. Though it's not as catchy as a slogan.
Because it's already happened? See our previous Chariot Chief incident, who only had the one son, for whom he'd hear no wrongs or lacks, willing to push for his election even if he had to fight everyone else for it.
That was without a trait reinforcing the value of family.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
So you are saying both marriage options increases harem value in our society? I find no flaw in these points and accept your argument.
Now we just need to find ways of supplying partners for the young men who can't find partners.
Slavery and raiding are right out. Exporting those men to fight for glory and ladies? Massive mega project that is high in human costs? Artwork and idols?
- Location
- Panama City
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Welp, made a good faith argument for hereditary, but I can't resist maggie finding out she's secretly bisexual and didn't know it
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
Welp, made a good faith argument for hereditary, but I can't resist maggie finding out she's secretly bisexual and didn't know it
[X] Magwyna should marry them personally (Secures alliance with Highlands Kingdom while Magwyna lives, has a small chance of triggering conflict with the nomads)
[X] The People always let in those that come to them (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
We spent a lot of effort to not go hereditary leadership.
If we take Attrikwyn's advice we will get hereditary leadership.
Let's avoid that.
[X] The People always let in those that come to them (Chance of stability loss, +2 Econ)
We spent a lot of effort to not go hereditary leadership.
If we take Attrikwyn's advice we will get hereditary leadership.
Let's avoid that.
Actually, it's not only sons that could run, but daughters.
We probably have women chiefs, but they are fast disappearing due to the bias for male chiefs.
- Location
- Reno
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Take Attrikwyn's advice (+2 Diplomacy, secures enduring alliance with Highlands Kingdom, ensures no attacks from nomads for at least next turn)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
[X] Remind people along trade routes that the People don't suffer the blue plague (-1 Stability, chance of further loss, +4-5 Econ)
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Southshore is like.... maybe half of that little square of hills below our territory that the HK could have colonized. The other half was grabbed by the SHP.
The March is presumably a hat on top of Northshore and Stonepen due to its ability to provide protection, though in reality the actual positioning of settlements may be skewed by the projective power that chariots on the steppes would enable.
Black River is off to the side, but the March might still be umbrella-ing it. It depends on whether the River BR is built on -and which the ST's capitol is also built on- goes straight up or curves over above Northshore.
My personal, no-basis bet is that it curves over so that the ST capital is above the dividing line between Northshore and Stonepen. But that's just because it would be prettier.
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- Location
- United States
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Actually, we'd marry all of them anyway in both the leading options. But as we've seen with Gwygotha, a woman King and her wives tend to be conflated together.
I'd not be too surprised if they started telling stories of how she had a dozen arms and heads so that she could organize everything by herself.