We have somewhere between "several hundred" and "nearly a thousands civilians living on our estate... would it be possible to copy the Uchiha's "city unto itself" layout without the Madara implications?
You do not need to build a fortress city to fit all your civilians (which, I will note, about equal the population of a large rural village). Asuma has given you plenty of space for a normal clan compound.
If you don't explicitly imitate the Uchiha, but still build a fortress, the connections will be present but less salient, as you might expect.
Does the Details segment of my plan provide adequate enough aesthetics to overcome the defensive tone of the estate (statues that double as lampposts, many gardens, artistic carvings, wooden facades, zen garden/koi pond, etc)?
@Paperclipped, @eaglejarl... questions/comments/concerns? I want to remove ambiguity where possible, and would like to know your thoughts on this plan.
[x] (Goketsu Estate): With a Population Like Ours, We Need a Town Unto Ourselves
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- Sanity Check everything (and vet hires) with Gaku, Mari, and Kei
Should probably be "have Gaku vet hires", rather than spending Hazou, Mari, or Kei's time on this. I'm assuming you mean to vet businesses, not literally every laborer or apprentice they have hired.
- Design:
- Hire Shikamaru-recommended KEI-architect from NFF (flatters Shikamaru ; spotlights program).
Great, clear political motive.
- Have designs based on Uchiha Compound (flatters Sasuke ; "city unto itself" layout we need)
- Require architect collaborates with...
- Kagome (maximize trap-setting potential).
Great. This implies that the bones of the compound are going to be cold, utilitarian lethality. Treat everyone like an enemy until proven otherwise. Lots of potential written cues to express that. I like the idea and the clear political message.
- Noburi (medical checks).
- Mari (general I&S defenses)
- Kei (sanity checks/optimization)
I can't imagine what you mean by medical checks or I&S defenses in terms of architecture. I suppose you want to make sure there's a central clinic somewhere...?
- Construction:
- Hire KEI-affiliated construction crews from NFF (spotlights program ; increase KEI connection).
There are no KEI-affiliated construction crews since KEI is a group of ninja and they don't do construction.
- Hazou teaches Reo Earthshaping.
- Using Earthshaping, fix structural faults in (and hyper-condenses) all building materials (increases defensiveness). Use where proper, but Main Building will only use Hazou's Earthshaped materials.
- Work with construction crews/engineers to ensure Earthshaped material is safe to use.
Great way to save Hazou's time. It will take Reo a bit of time until he's able to fix structural faults (level 10 ES to join components, level 30 to seamlessly connect components and remove all internal flaws). Getting him to L40 for condensing stone will take longer. However, having him condense literally
everything the estate will be constructed with is infeasible -- there will be a lot of stone quarried, and checking literally every single brick for internal flaws would be very slow and very chakra-expensive.
I take it that everything is being constructed out of stone from this section and the next?
The intention is to nod to Leaf's architectural influences while still maintaining allegiance to the Uchiha style? I assume it's not to
hide that the buildings are made of stone -- not only would it be really hard, but approximately everyone in Leaf will be able to see the buildings being constructed.
- Several Kagome-approved...
- Research Facilities (separated from other buildings)
These are already outside of Leaf by order-of-Kagome.
- Underground Evac Buildings (civilians)
Great detail, will maybe save lives.
Is this meant to hold the whole clan, possibly on the order of 1000 people?
- ES-Reinforced walkways (QoL improvement)
Stone walkways -- great. What does ES-reinforced mean here, and what do you intend for it to get you over ordinary paving/cobble?
- Build Hotsprings/Bathhouses (increases hygiene and health)
Probably was going to happen anyway, since there's a hot spring to develop.
- Using HOWs, create many lampposts (increases visibility at night)
- ES-condensed marble statues, holding the seal aloft?
Awesome detail. It's great political messaging to have statues of Leaf heroes like Hashirama and Tobirama illuminating the dark.
- Lots of gardens with water features, flowers, and fruit trees (supplements Food Bank)
Lovely detail. Picking fruit as the characters walk will be a nice scene fluff.
- Subtly incorporate defenses...
- Benches that're comfortable, but also reliable cover
- ES-condensed MEW walls around garden/park perimeters
Again, ES-condensing will require time. Also, MEW is not exactly the prettiest stone (and would be associated with "we put this up quickly because we needed to, and left it up because we were too poor for any alternatives"). Also, be aware of the OPSEC implications of using higher-tier ES abilities in public (though it's not really a clan secret risk since ES is already a publicly available ninjutsu).
- (If Koi can live indoors) The Koi Pond Building
- Built to Wataru's standards
- Only entrance is breezeway, connecting to Main Building.
- (FOOM Opsec) Zen Garden in same building, exclusively for meditation by Goketsu Ninja.
- This should not be allowed to interfere with the Koi Pond's ecosystem in any way
- Thigh-high, ES-condensed MEWs around the pond (as debris guards)
I don't get why this section -- for one, most WHOOSH training is not Resolve training, esp. with the pyramid rework. For another, why are debris guards needed? I don't get what result you intend to get from this section.
- ES gold filigree into important buildings, using shapes reminiscent of sealwork
- ES Private monument to clan's fallen in the heart of estate (provides solace).
Great details.
- With Mari, Hazou Earthshapes fully anatomically accurate Jiraiya Colossus. Clothe in Arachnid Silk garments.
Great detail. See EJ's post above. Also, consider the logistics of getting clothes onto statues and hardening those clothes against the elements (or changing clothes frequently).
@Paperclipped seconding request for feedback.
Okay! Posting my
backup idea!
[x] [Estate] Links
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- Design
- Blend design elements from other clan compounds to represent the links to Leaf we have so far:
- Uchiha, representing Hazou's ancestors.
- Nara, representing Kei's marriage to Shikamaru.
- Senju, representing Jiraiya's teammate (and Noburi's maybe-apprenticeship, but that's still early days).
- Orochimaru's compound (he might feel slighted if we ref Tsunade but not him).
- Sarutobi, representing Jiraiya's sensei.
- Yamanaka, representing Hazou/Akane's relationship with Ino.
- Aburame, representing our budding business relationship.
- Architects are also encouraged to invent creative and modern design elements — we're a research clan, after all.
All solid. I assume you'll be speaking with each party (except Orochimaru) about how you can blend in their elements in a respectful way. I like the very clear political message, emphasizing your connections with Leaf at large, with the modernizing elements representing the clans' progressive, future-looking attitude.
- Construction
- Hazou creates quartz for highlights.
Great, so mostly traditional Leaf buildings with flashes of white crystalline stone. It's a solid aesthetic!
- Details
- Hide Koi pond for FOOM OPSEC training.
- Add koi gutters (to low-civilian areas).
Remember that koi can't get too far away from each other, otherwise they'll lose their schooling benefit that compounds their chakra capacity. If they're swimming all over in gutters, they'll likely not be usable for chakra tapping.
Amazing.
- Great Hall suitable for larger events.
- Decorate with huge dragon skeleton carving.
Also amazing. Again, meant to hold the whole clan?
- Cafeteria.
- School.
- Clinic/Mental Health Offices
Solid. While it's not strictly necessary, I appreciate having all these things listed out, as it helps me construct a mental map.
- Connect up aqueduct/sewers.
What does this mean? IIRC, the sewers are not quite ready for a public deployment and for the aqueducts, the compound has wells (and is also pretty far from the high-elevation water sources in the mountains).
- Gardens/Greenhouses for Phytosealing Botanical Gardens to come.
Great details. Is Hazou making his phytosealing intentions public?
- ES relief carvings that resemble 2D/3D sealing on surfaces to hide real seals in the noise.
On only key buildings, I assume, to save Hazou's time? Imitating 3D sealing means imitating the Great Seal, I think, as there exist no other reference to imply that 3D sealing exists for people not named "The Sage of the Six Paths". Also, it'll be rather hard to hide ink-and-paper seals on random building fronts, but I suppose that's what the quartz is for. There's probably a peppery-white quartz type that makes that feasible, especially for seals that are written small.
- Research facility.
- Subterranean complex.
- Lampposts.
- Statues holding daybright seals?
- Monument to the Lost [Temporarily in Another Path].
See above for commentary.
- Statues.
- Jiraiya colossus.
- Other Gouketsu VIPs (incl Gaku, hehe)
- Hazou's Uchiha ancestors pre-Kurosawa split (ask Sasuke for help).
Good details. I assume these are statues in public squares and gardens?
hmmm is there any way to automatically spend Noburi's Tsunade XP on his mednin skill right before she starts involving him in surgeries?
Since we're time skipping, we're going to miss out on at least another level that might make a difference.
@Paperclipped, any thoughts? It should be a straight leveling within a pyramid level with no complications.
Noburi will level MedNin to the highest possible level with all available shadowing + regular XP prior to being tested. I'll take care of this.
Would lamp-posts be perceived as a gesture of enmity towards the Nara?
Lamp posts cast lovely shadows. It would be at worst neutral. If you study the way lights are placed in the Nara compound you could actually make something that would be appreciated as a homage.
