Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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[X] Action plan: summoning help
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-Spend 1 fate point: know where Tsunade is from party planning
--Summon Canabisu, Canvass, and Canoe. Brief them. Offer them an open favor in thanks for helping in an emergency. Send Canoe to Tsunade with message "Orochimaru has taken an interest in your niece. We're running interference but need help. I'll owe you a favor, and in addition will take on any seal research project you choose.", and then to Asuma "Lord Orochimaru has taken an interest in Lady Nara at the Gōketsu estate. Please help." Canabisu on reverse summon / social interference duty. Send Canvass to find Ami," Orochimaru is after Kei", then Kabuto, "Lord Orochimaru might make it difficult for you to stay in Leaf. Please help us prevent that"
-Head to main meeting area, flag down any estate ninja, send them to gather Noburi, Yuno, Kei, Akane, Neiji, Haru, and Kagome.
-If they find Kei, send her to the Nara estate. If she can't be found, have the ninja go there themself and inform Lord Nara that Lady Nara is in danger and we need help.
-Have everyone else meet in main hall.
Ask Neiji to keep an eye on Oro and direct anyone responding to where he is, promise Hyuga significant benefits if he helps.
--Take Mari's advice and run like hell. None of the other ninja on the estate should be "interesting". Run into the city, bunker down in a 5sb'd MEW construction until ANBU/allies give us the all clear.
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-Dispel
-Spend 1 fate point: know where Tsunade is from party planning
--Summon Canabisu, Canvass, and Canoe. Brief them. Offer them an open favor in thanks for helping in an emergency. Send Canoe to Tsunade with message "Orochimaru has taken an interest in your niece. We're running interference but need help. I'll owe you a favor, and in addition will take on any seal research project you choose.", and then to Asuma "Lord Orochimaru has taken an interest in Lady Nara at the Gōketsu estate. Please help." Canabisu on reverse summon / social interference duty. Send Canvass to find Ami," Orochimaru is after Kei", then Kabuto, "Lord Orochimaru might make it difficult for you to stay in Leaf. Please help us prevent that"
-Head to main meeting area, flag down any estate ninja, send them to gather Noburi, Yuno, Kei, Akane, Neiji, Haru, and Kagome.
-If they find Kei, send her to the Nara estate. If she can't be found, have the ninja go there themself and inform Lord Nara that Lady Nara is in danger and we need help.
-Have everyone else meet in main hall.
Ask Neiji to keep an eye on Oro and direct anyone responding to where he is, promise Hyuga significant benefits if he helps.
--Take Mari's advice and run like hell. None of the other ninja on the estate should be "interesting". Run into the city, bunker down in a 5sb'd MEW construction until ANBU/allies give us the all clear.
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[X] Interlude - The Great Conclave
[X] Interlude: Shinji's Last Mission
[X]lore update
[X] Action Plan: Ops(Operation Panic and Screaming)
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[X] Interlude: Shinji's Last Mission
[X]lore update
[X] Action Plan: Ops(Operation Panic and Screaming)
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- 1 FP:Hazou knows Tsunade's position
- Find Kei, brief her while you run away to the tower, excuse: The Hokage called for both of them.
- Possibly leave Snowflake as interefence
- Distract Oro
- Help Mari not being murdered
- Convince him Kei vs Snowflake are not different?
- Possibly leave Snowflake as interefence
- Summon Dogs and/or Goketsu ninja(What is faster), contact and explain(Maintain OPSEC):
- Tsunade
- Shikamaru
- Asuma
- Ami
- Naruto
- Ino
- Organize to decide how survive this
- If needed, retreat to 7th for the moment.(Both/Either Kei or Hazou)
- Possibly brief the rest of Goketsu if it doesn't cost times, otherwise let a dog/ninja explain later.
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I don't want to be controversial, but could i ask something? I feel the events as have happened a bit confusing, even if i admit we don't know Oro's side of the story.
Hazou never had "seconds" to memorize the seal? In fact:
-In his first outing, he went to the Great Seal and the Shadow Clone copied it in it's entirely, then popped the SC. Admittedly we don't know how much time Hazou passed there, but it wasn't a "Go to the butte and be attacked then casted to the Human Path". Admittedly, i imagine the "Dragon's psychic assault" was the lie made to hide the whole "Iron Nerve Sealing", but the "seconds" part doesn't make sense, otherwise how could he sketch the entire seal?
-After his first outing, the HOWS where created, IIRC, without the Great Seal Replica
-Then Hazou could have returned as many times as he wanted, both to replace the HOWS or simply to watch the Great Seal again, in fact, the replica was made... in chapter Chapter 453 and the HOWS where positioned in Chapter 448 (Along many HOWS pun jokes from Asuma) so Hazou should have, at least from Orochimaru PoV, multiple times in which he analyzed the Great Seal in detail.
So it's less "Hazou had seconds to study the Great Seal" but "Hazou had an entire outing made ad-hoc to copy the great seal + Another one in which he studied the Great Seal while positioning the HOWS + possible other times in which he went there just to study it to prepare for the Great Seal Replica(That did not happen, but Oro doesn't know about it)".
From Oro's point of view, Hazou is not doing a improvisation from memory, but has a copy that he can(in fact must access every time he changes the HOWS) access and drawings of the Great Seal. So i'm confused why Oro thinks Hazou used Iron Nerve mumbo jumb to memorize it in seconds.
Am i missing something? Maybe Oro considers fundamentally impossible to copy the Great Seal, regardless of how much time Hazou had on hand?
EDIT: Just to be sure, i checked the timeline
Chapter 448 is on November 22
Chapter 453 is on December 19
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Much safer to evac to the 7th path.
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Also might be worth contacting Ryugami about this. The Angel without mercy has danced with Oro in the past and probably would be worried about the threat to his grand daughters
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Run first, answer questions later.
@roobee I still can't say your position makes sense to me. How do you justify this quote?
More to the point, should you justify it? At what point is it "We hear incomplete rumors of him dissecting people." and what point is it "We saw a man in agony chained to a table in Orochimaru's basement kept alive by jutsu and being force fed spiders indefinitely." or "Orochimaru's only condition for joining the attack on Rock was the promise of more test subjects."? The text is not subtle about Orochimaru's evils.
At least, if you still think this is an open question, please at least vote following the precautionary principle for now, and ask people in the story for clarification later.
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Compromise, brief her while we run away.
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Note that the dogs don't know any of those people.
The Dragons did cause Hazō to experience a mild Out seizure but it didn't actually harm him.
What actually happened is that the Shadow Clone did a quick sketch of the whole seal, probably about a minute or two of effort. Hazō then opened his eyes and memorized the whole thing instantly via the Iron Nerve.
What Orochimaru thinks happened is unknown, obviously, but it sounds like he's assuming that you didn't have very long to study the thing before you had to leave. He might be using "seconds" in a hyperbolic way where he expects that it actually took minutes. Same way you might say to a client "You seriously want me to sit down and instantly code a facial recognition system from scratch?!"
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Let's not make this situation worse by having Hazou commit treason again please.
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Ahhh I see it's only ok when you propose to commit treason.
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I mean, that's easy, just staple some matrix multiplication functions together and let it train for a few cycles. If that doesn't work, have it do more multiplications until it does. Ohh, or you could spend the time given to hire someone on Upwork, chain them to a desk and force to recognize faces for food — that's a pretty competitive salary I think — and call that your system. That's probably the solution Oro is looking for, even! Force someone else to remember things for you!
Everyone relax! I solved the problem. We just need to not tell him one of the voices in our head is the perfect fit for the posit— nevermind this isn't a good plan, keep panicking.
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And this is why you're one of two or three players I trust to deal with Orochimaru successfully
In addition to
a few of those sentence sound like hazou's opinion (opinion while he is in a state of fear), as opposed to statements of fact. are the subjects enemies of leaf? him using jonin aura as psychic attack on hazou was rude yeah. but in ninja culture that seems accepted. and there is a wide span of possibilities between oro is willing to be rude with his jonin aura and oro is the incarnation of evil
we don't know that
the precautionary principle IS to keep the possibility that oro isn't gonna forcibly dissect kei/hazou in mind. to ask a quick question if oro is going to do that.
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I listed that for the sake of comprehensiveness and I naively thought to myself: "Surely, that covers the most likely treasonous answers".
I must admit defeat though: I can/could never be as creative as you when it comes to finding novel ways to have Hazou commit treason no matter the situation.
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Neither of the girls are his actual granddaughters. HDK whether there's any blood relationship between them at all, given Ryūgamine married into the clan.
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Why limit ourselves to a simple transfer? If we can successfully copy ourselves we might as well copy and paste until we're in every shinobi's and civilian's head.
[jk] Convince Oro to upload the hivemind in every person in Leaf
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I find this entirely frustrating. There is a crazed demigod who is endangering our family and you refuse to consider looking at outside solutions specifically when two days ago you said
So it seems that you aren't interested in challenging group think. You have just decided to taboo anything that you disagree with. You could have asked how we might make this not be treasonous. You could have asked is it worth the risk.
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[X] Convince Oro to upload the hivemind onto every thinking being in existence