But what if one person each swallows one part of the seal?

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Just found this. Is actual resurrection necessary, or just the chance to write a Jiraiya-agent affecting the world? Would communication with him in the afterlife or a simulation of sufficient fidelity (we have been told outright that this population currently has the knowledge and ability to create GAI, and we have a hell of a training corpus) work? Surely nothing could go interestingly wrong with feeding a lifetime of unsorted paranoid spywork and sealware into a prototype unsupervised godling?
If it's convincingly Jiraiya and interacting with the storyline on a regular basis, that's fine. A golem body or sufficiently accurate simulation would definitely count. A purely verbal one (telephone to the afterlife, black box) would probably count, although in that case I might reserve the right to put the counter on hold while I tried it out for a couple weeks. A big part of Jiraiya's character is around movement -- hopping around and posing while whacked out on stimulants or simply feeling euphoric, leaning on tables while making credible threats, etc. Likewise a completely de-powered Jiraiya might or might not feel like the same character when writing him. I'd play fair -- worst case is that the counter stops for a couple of updates and then starts again if it doesn't feel right.

...does activating one side activate the substitution?
@OliWhail answered this, but for clarification: You activate one side, it shuts off after about two minutes. If you activate the other side during those two minutes then the effect happens.
 
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@OliWhail answered this, but for clarification: You activate one side, it shuts off after about two minutes. If you activate the other side during those two minutes then the effect happens

My immediate thought for those works was bodyguard seals, but it would require whoever you're using it with to have situational awareness, and the ability to activate a seal, without being really about to defend themselves. Or else, substitution for someone who has pitifully low reserves. I wonder if there's a character that can activate seals, that we want to keep safe, who isn't a combatant on their own right yet...
 
Electrocution Seal: sends a surge of raiton energy (which works exactly like electricity except in cases where that would make the QMs lives difficult, at which point it works differently) into whatever they are attached to for some period of time. Touching the object is harmful but not lethal.

HAZOU: "Oh hey, using this on ninja wire sounds useful. Hey, I wonder if a different shape makes the lightning spirits do other things, ike flat object get carried farther by wind spirits. Maybe....a helix or a spiral? Like a miniature tower or something going toward the heavens".

Watch us discovering/advancing magnetism and then build railguns.

Or just create electronics.
 
I'm down for adding exchange students to the trade deal

Well, then it can be a short update, which would probably be written far faster.
Another reason is that QMs will sometimes do a small time skip after a scene. So if you want to use time most efficiently you will want to bundle scenes together in a plan. Although I suppose alternatively you could specify in the action plan to end the update immediately after the scene.
 
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So Gai is begotten, not created? To a theologian, this would raise some very worrying questions about Kishimoto.

Well, he did start a religion, promoting both a different lifestyle and a different morality. Most of the evangelization was done after his death by one of his disciples. He could absolutely walk on water.

The Sermon on the Hokage Rock:

"YOOUUUUUUUTTHHHHHH!!"
 
Watch us discovering/advancing magnetism and then build railguns.

Or just create electronics.
If you want a setting where electronics coexist with pre-industrial Japan it's a lot easier to start a Dr. Stone Quest.

'cause if you'll manage to turn MfD into one, I'm pretty sure the grue will have a tasty Electrocution Seal on breakfast
 
If you want a setting where electronics coexist with pre-industrial Japan it's a lot easier to start a Dr. Stone Quest.

'cause if you'll manage to turn MfD into one, I'm pretty sure the grue will have a tasty Electrocution Seal on breakfast

I don't think so. The grue ate one thing, and it did it because it was a pain in the ass to model in any way that would make sense (that is, consistent limits, and no obvious hacks that would make the already seen details of the setting impossible). It doesn't eat things that are powerful, or things that would change the setting, because we still remember skywalkers.
 
I don't think so. The grue ate one thing, and it did it because it was a pain in the ass to model in any way that would make sense (that is, consistent limits, and no obvious hacks that would make the already seen details of the setting impossible). It doesn't eat things that are powerful, or things that would change the setting, because we still remember skywalkers.
True.

Still the point "works exactly like electricity except in cases where that would make the QMs lives difficult, at which point it works differently" still stands and I have a sinking suspicion that electronics may be a subject for this loophole.
 
Although I suppose alternatively you could specify in the action plan to end the update immediately after the scene.
We -- well, I, since I shouldn't speak for @Velorien although I suspect he agrees -- don't tend to be best pleased with demands about when to cut a chapter. Sometimes there are things I would like to have happen after the plan is exhausted, and it's frustrating to choose between writing the thing I'm excited about or respecting the plan. Generally it's preferred to make it a two-way thing -- you have the freedom to make whatever plan what you want to happen so long as you respect the setting, we have the freedom to write whatever we want so long as we respect the plan.

True.

Still the point "works exactly like electricity except in cases where that would make the QMs lives difficult, at which point it works differently" still stands and I have a sinking suspicion that electronics may be a subject for this loophole.
Off the top of my head, I have no objection to the idea of electronics. I reserve the right to change that opinion later, but that loophole was more intended for someone @Radvic ing the system with something like "Well, if it generates five amps at blarble blarble voltage and we combine it with a snarblebobble then we can explode the universe!"

Or, well, anything along the lines of "hang on, three hundred chapters ago you said that it only generate 5A at 110V, but our subatomic particle detection seal registered the presence of snabblebobble electrons and that's too many so where is the extra charge going?"
 
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"Well, if it generates five amps at blarble blarble voltage and we combine it with a snarblebobble then we can explode the universe!"

Indeed, if it generates those amps while ignoring kirchhoff's current law, that is, 5 amps go out one side without coming in the other side, bad things will happen very quickly. It probably won't destroy the universe unless you can keep that charge from flying away as fast as it can for years on end, but if you can, you have XKCD's proton earth scenario.
 
Off the top of my head, I have no objection to the idea of electronics. I reserve the right to change that opinion later, but that loophole was more intended for someone @Radvic ing the system with something like "Well, if it generates five amps at blarble blarble voltage and we combine it with a snarblebobble then we can explode the universe!"

Or, well, anything along the lines of "hang on, three hundred chapters ago you said that it only generate 5A at 110V, but our subatomic particle detection seal registered the presence of snabblebobble electrons and that's too many so where is the extra charge going?"

Hazo: "It's like sealing, except way less dangerous!"

Also, let name voltage after Hazo and amp after Kagome. 110 Hazoage at 5 Kagomes.
 
One possible solution to the interpersonal/planning dichotomy:

Have two plans, one for normal planning (negotiation, trade, killing, etc), and one for interpersonal stuff. The QMs can write whichever is more fun and offscreen the other plan, or hoist onto the other QM if they both find it fun.

What do people think?
 
I think we should view the legal theory (with a few secretaries and law civilians/ninja) of whether Jiraiya granted us the political espionage stuff. And ask Mari whether we could convince people Jiraiya granted us that stuff. Then we could either keep copies, or push for those to count as contest submissions in addition to the spy network notes we've granted.
You asked, she answered:
Everything in the "Political/espionage stuff" section went to Asuma and is no longer available to you. Basically, Mari said "Given our precarious position after you nearly got executed, we are not going to fuck around. Give him these things, don't keep copies, and don't try to recreate them. Do not give him any excuse to be angry with us until we've had time to win back some points."


We could ask Mari whether it's safe to ask Kagome if he remembers any political/espionage stuff that could be useful/important.
You asked, she answered:
Everything in the "Political/espionage stuff" section went to Asuma and is no longer available to you. Basically, Mari said "Given our precarious position after you nearly got executed, we are not going to fuck around. Give him these things, don't keep copies, and don't try to recreate them. Do not give him any excuse to be angry with us until we've had time to win back some points."

edit: We should also check what ninja ethics is regarding making copies of things we don't own. If ninja don't mind it we could make copies of Naruto's jutsu and the political stuff even if we don't own them.
As a very rough first approximation, ask yourself what would happen in the real world and then add layers of paranoid special-forces military dictatorship on top of it.

"In the real world, what would happen if we made copies of <X> we don't own, where <X> was the blueprints for a classified weapons system? Okay, how would that be different if we were living in a paranoid special-forces military dictatorship?"

But what if one person each swallows one part of the seal?

Instant Organ Transplant, Just Add Chakra?
As a general rule, chakra can only be emitted through the hands or the feet, and chakra from the feet is far more uncontrolled. That means only seals that have been explicitly modified to work with foot-based chakra (which typically means tree walking) can be activated by the feet.

I take that as a "OK" for Skytower mounted railguns to shoot at people.
I have no objection.
 
We -- well, I, since I shouldn't speak for @Velorien although I suspect he agrees -- don't tend to be best pleased with demands about when to cut a chapter. Sometimes there are things I would like to have happen after the plan is exhausted, and it's frustrating to choose between writing the thing I'm excited about or respecting the plan. Generally it's preferred to make it a two-way thing -- you have the freedom to make whatever plan what you want to happen so long as you respect the setting, we have the freedom to write whatever we want so long as we respect the plan.


Off the top of my head, I have no objection to the idea of electronics. I reserve the right to change that opinion later, but that loophole was more intended for someone @Radvic ing the system with something like "Well, if it generates five amps at blarble blarble voltage and we combine it with a snarblebobble then we can explode the universe!"

Or, well, anything along the lines of "hang on, three hundred chapters ago you said that it only generate 5A at 110V, but our subatomic particle detection seal registered the presence of snabblebobble electrons and that's too many so where is the extra charge going?"
I can't think of any way to explode the universe assuming the seal functions similarly to a battery.
 
As a general rule, chakra can only be emitted through the hands or the feet, and chakra from the feet is far more uncontrolled. That means only seals that have been explicitly modified to work with foot-based chakra (which typically means tree walking) can be activated by the feet.

Except for the Hyuuga who have been shown in canon to be able to emit chakra through all of their tenketsu, right?

HDK.

I have been conditioned well.
 
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