Underground farms should be insulated from surface weather, and the deeper we dig, the warmer it is. So this is not a problem.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Underground farms should be insulated from surface weather, and the deeper we dig, the warmer it is. So this is not a problem.
- Location
- Yes.
Can we do that in 2 months?
Because I'm actually a bit concerned we might not have the ability, or the time, if we're going for multiple rewards.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
A quick google tells me that temperature increases by about 1 degree F / 300' of depth. It's currently below freezing in Fire; I don't know what it should be, but let's be generous and say 30F. Greenhouses want to be 80-85F, so in order to get the temperature up to that level you're going to need to dig down 15,000' which is about 3 miles. That's going to be challenging.
Well, good thing that underground is also insulation.
Also, if there's hot spring, we could tap it for heating. But that's challenging engineering.
- Location
- Yes.
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail So, um, what do the firegoats do, exactly? What makes them different from RL goats?
- Location
- America
"The first option: Ten thousand acres of high-quality land, complete with tenants to provide tax income."
"The second option: Repayment of all debts previously incurred by yourself and your immediate family, forgiveness of all taxes for you and your immediate family for the rest of your natural life, and an income of ten million ryō per year for the rest of your natural life, contingent only on remaining a Leaf citizen in good standing."
"Third option: Six months of full-time training under Master Instructor Ebisu, plus the ten jutsu he feels will best serve you."
"Fourth option: The winner's clan shall be granted a seat on the Clan Council and permanently allowed to adopt five ninja per year instead of two. If the winner is not a clan ninja, a clan shall be formed with them and up to ten other ninja as the founding members.
"The fifth and final option: The Summoning scroll of the Dog Clan and the training to use it. If for any reason you are unable to make use of the scroll then you will instead receive fifty million ryō, forgiveness of all taxes for the rest of your natural life, and a duplicate of one of the other prizes."
Imo the most valuable option. We could get:
- Not especially valuable for us compared to the other options. If we want land we can purchase it directly with money. We have a lot of money and plenty of ways to earn even more. On top of this, we already have methods of clearing out and securing unclaimed land.
"The second option: Repayment of all debts previously incurred by yourself and your immediate family, forgiveness of all taxes for you and your immediate family for the rest of your natural life, and an income of ten million ryō per year for the rest of your natural life, contingent only on remaining a Leaf citizen in good standing."
- The money is nice, but again it's something we can earn on our own. Money can't buy new or forbidden jutsu or summoning scrolls.
"Third option: Six months of full-time training under Master Instructor Ebisu, plus the ten jutsu he feels will best serve you."
- Instruction from Ebisu will only benefit one person, so our total power won't increase by much. Ten jutsu could completely overturn our situation, but what Ebisu thinks is best for us is different from what we will actually want. This is a total coinflip.
"Fourth option: The winner's clan shall be granted a seat on the Clan Council and permanently allowed to adopt five ninja per year instead of two. If the winner is not a clan ninja, a clan shall be formed with them and up to ten other ninja as the founding members.
- This is really nice. We'd never be able to form a new clan with money we could earn. We also cannot buy adoption slots (or make deals for them anymore).
"The fifth and final option: The Summoning scroll of the Dog Clan and the training to use it. If for any reason you are unable to make use of the scroll then you will instead receive fifty million ryō, forgiveness of all taxes for the rest of your natural life, and a duplicate of one of the other prizes."
Imo the most valuable option. We could get:
- new and unique jutsu
- a huge increase in an individual's personal power and versatility
- access to another trading partner
- specialized training from experts
- Dog clan gold
- a large boost to reputation
- We round out our trio with Summons, just like the Sannin.
- Location
- Liverpool
Point of pedantry: To complete the Real set, we'll need a 4th. For Hazou or Akane, whoever doesn't get this one.
I think we should think of ways to improve trade/civilian integration. Most clans aren't going to be thinking that route. Or Isan, closing the deal with Isan is one of the largest boons we can pull off, as long as we actually get credit for it. Talking with Keiko about where she stands is a good step.
- Location
- Yes.
We'd need 5, actually; the Dog scroll goes to Kagome.
Or Mari, now that I think about it.
Six it is.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Which one does Honoka get?
- Location
- Under a Rock
I think we can get a three mile hole without too much difficulty. Hazou's tunneling jutsu seems like its in the approximate range of 1 CP/meter, and three miles is only 5k meters, or 5k CP. Hazou's at 190 these days, for 27 days worth of chakra to dig the hole, even if we don't ask for help. Every pangolin has a tunneling jutsu, and people will probably let us drain their chakra if we pay them. Its a mission that lasts 10 minutes and has near zero risk.
These numbers assume all of our tunneling jutsu work through rock.
It gets even cheaper if we keep Noburi topped up from hostile wildlife.
I have brought this up before, but I think we should try to find out how much chakra we can get in a day if we just go hunting. We focus on weakish water and swamp based creatures, and optimize our route based on information from the tower. The answer might be in the 1000s.
Of course, the win condition is if we can get Naruto to agree to help us. Naruto has ~8000cp, based on keiko barely being able to cast shadow clone, and naruto being able to keep 32 (we think). That 8k refreshes every single day. If we get Naruto's help, we will be able to build insane amounts of infrastructure.
- Location
- Yes.
Honoka gets a bijuu.
I thought our tunneling jutsu doesn't really make tunnels.
- Location
- Under a Rock
It should. It made tunnels back during the chuunin exams at least.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Hiding Like A Mole leaves the earth undisturbed after the user leaves it. Pangolin Clan Technique: Tunnel Excavation leaves a big hole behind.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Tunnel Excavation
| Type | Sprint | Strain |
| Element | Earth | |
| Effect | 1-5, chosen at casting time. | +Varies Max Effect: (½ * Aspect bonus) |
| Duration | 1 minute | +60 |
| Durability | 0 | |
| Range | -2 (personal) | |
| Casting Speed | Standard | |
| AOE | One target | |
| Special | Alertness is 0 vs people on the surface and vice versa unless you have special senses | 0 This is 0 because (absent special senses) it applies -Inf to your Alertness but +Inf to your Stealth |
| Special | Permanent effect | +25 |
| Disadvantage | Skill Penalty: [15 - (level / 2)] penalty (minimum 0) to Athletics while tunneling | -15 (Important skill but penalty rapidly goes to 0) |
| Advantage | Ignore borders and blocks on Sprint | +10 |
| Advantage | Renders you immune to most attacks from the surface | +40 |
| Total | 120 + Strain from Effect (10, 30, 60, 100...) | 24 CP + (2, 6, 12, 20...) |
The user excavates a 2-meter diameter tunnel and is able to move through it unimpeded. They can cross (Effect) zones per round while ignoring any above-surface borders and blocks on Sprint actions. Effect cannot be higher than (½ Aspect bonus). User has 0 Alertness with regard to people and objects above the surface, barring unusual senses, and vice versa. The tunnel is permanent.
NOTE: The tunnel isn't magically reinforced, so it's possible for it to collapse if dug through sand, if sufficient weight is loaded atop it, etc.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You saw the 'fire' part of the name, right? That's what they do.
But what punishment happens if you disobey? What can the clan head do to you, kill you?
- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
An update to an earlier response:
Respectively: Yes, yes, the Clan Head is the one who gets to actually sit in the Council seat. The prize is "your clan gets a Council seat", not "you get a Council seat".
Yep
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Not a century ago, Leaf was created as a bunch of clans with absolute power over themselves reluctantly giving up certain rights until a proper Hidden Village could function, and you bet they wouldn't want to give up a scrap more power than they needed to. In most cases it's generally better to think of a Clan as a semi-independent kingdom within Leaf instead of merely a wealthy power bloc.
Although we still don't know what sorts of disobedience a clan head would be willing to kill for in practice, when such killing would have a hokage killing the clan head in punishment or at least expressing disapproval, and when such a kill would generate general public disfavor in Leaf
