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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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faflec said:
We've known that for fucking ever, though?
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Did we actually use them though? I remember seals getting wet was a serious concern.

(I wanna say it got brought up more than once in the Exams but I could be wrong. OTOH, our skywalkers were definitely not water proof when we tested them because they stopped working due to getting wet from the clouds.)
 
Tua said:
Did we actually use them though? I remember seals getting wet was a serious concern.

(I wanna say it got brought up more than once in the Exams but I could be wrong. OTOH, our skywalkers were definitely not water proof when we tested them because they stopped working due to getting wet from the clouds.)
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Velorien said:
Noburi pulled out one of Kagome's special waterproofed explosive tags. His throw would have to be perfect, nailing Hinata before she could react. If she still didn't come for him after that, then he'd have to stop holding back and finish in one mighty burst.
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Do you think Fifi can point us in the direction of the Feline(?) scroll?

Not the Feline scroll, the Feline(?) scroll.
 
You know, there's a funny argument to be made about how there are actually three Summoning Scrolls sitting in the tower, since Kakashi/Guy are dead and may well have been the Dog or Turtle Summoners...

:p
 
faflec said:
You know, there's a funny argument to be made about how there are actually three Summoning Scrolls sitting in the tower, since Kakashi/Guy are dead and may well have been the Dog or Turtle Summoners...

:p
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The Turtle scroll would be Lee's legacy then. I will not allow Lee to be fucked over thrice!!
 
Clans mentioned in the notes:
  • Toad, Monkey, Slug, Snake, Crow, Shark, Otter, Pangolin, Cat, Bear, Capybara, Leopard, Hyena, Kraken. (Listed by Jiraiya)
  • Dog, Condor, Mara. (Mentioned by Jiraiya right after his big list)
  • Arachnid, Boar, Turtle. (Mentioned by Hiruzen during discussion of land size)
  • Tapir, Rat, Weasel. (Mentioned outside of update)
There are summoners in Leaf not mentioned on Jiraiya's big list, unclear if still not mentioned in other parts of the document.

Other key takeaways:
  • Seventh Path geography:
    • Otters and Condors are between Toads and Pangolins.
    • Seventh Path has oceans and islands.
    • Turtles are on the other side of Pangolins from Toad/Condor/Otter.
    • Snakes are beyond the Turtles, on an island with the Boars.
    • There's a river through Turtle that's relatively easy to traverse.
    • Territories 'shift around' for most clans.
  • Inter-clan diplomacy:
    • Toads are friends with Otters, Monkeys, and Dogs.
    • Toad/Mara relations are/were bad.
    • Slugs are left alone and leave everyone else alone.
    • Otters are not warlike.
    • Bears get along with other clans.
  • Special clan features:
    • Toads are not the only users of presumably-sage-mode.
    • Snake jutsu is hard to adapt to humans.
    • Otters and Monkeys are technologically advanced.
    • Pangolin religion is unique/unusual.
      • What's the deal with Sealing for other clans, then?
 
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eaglejarl said:
The above post is that thing we've been promising you about Jiraiya's take on the 7th Path. It is the only relevant thing you have from him, meaning there's no more up-to-date version.
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Is this serious or tongue in cheek?
Are we really supposed to actualize our mental characterization of MfD Jiraiya as someone who never kept any readable notes on the 7th Path after his childhood, despite becoming a legendary spymaster and author that felt it useful to keep notes on the local underworld?
If it's more of a spoon thing then I'd rather know that and not change my headcanon of Jiraiya as a decently competent spymaster.



Anyway, the most interesting thing I got from the infopost is that all three sannin already became summoners while still being children. Which means that either the scrolls were all recently captured and given to genin/chūnin of the same team or that some or all of the scrolls already belonged to Leaf ninja. In any case, I put a decent priority on finding out who the previous summoners were. Especially in the case of the Toads that's both trivial to find out (written above Jiraiya's name on the scroll in our possession) and really interesting due to Jiraiya's mudfoot origins. And Tsunade we can just ask the next time we see her. I assume that the Senju have had it for longer, but who knows.

Edit: Jiraiya asks Hiruzen why he "chose" the Monkeys. That implies he had multiple scrolls in his personal possession. And decided to gift 1+ to his student(s). Seeing how he knows next to nothing about the Slugs I assume it is probably just the other two.

Also, the Sarutobi clan didn't minmax for power back then. I don't know if Hiruzen already was a clan head or just really independent, but most clans wouldn't give away scrolls to civilian-born genin/chūnin.
 
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Rafin said:
Is this serious or tongue in cheek?
Are we really supposed to actualize our mental characterization of MfD Jiraiya as someone who never kept any readable notes on the 7th Path after his childhood, despite becoming a legendary spymaster and author that felt it useful to keep notes on the local underworld?
If it's more of a spoon thing then I'd rather know that and not change my headcanon of Jiraiya as a decently competent spymaster.



Anyway, the most interesting thing I got from the infopost is that all three sannin already became summoners while still being children. Which means that either the scrolls were all recently captured and given to genin/chūnin of the same team or that some or all of the scrolls already belonged to Leaf ninja. In any case, I put a decent priority on finding out who the previous summoners were. Especially in the case of the Toads that's both trivial to find out (written above Jiraiya's name on the scroll in our possession) and really interesting due to Jiraiya's mudfoot origins. And Tsunade we can just ask the next time we see her. I assume that the Senju have had it for longer, but who knows.
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Why would a competent spymaster write things down in the first place? Just memorize it all and/or encode it with some bizarre and inscrutable schema
 
MMKII said:
Why would a competent spymaster write things down in the first place? Just memorize it all and/or encode it with some bizarre and inscrutable schema
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Then why did he write down all the stuff that Mari is accessing? That's much more recent than whatever time it was that Jiraiya first seriously thought about 7th Path politics.

Also, as abruptly as it cuts off and is never revisited it looks like someone purposefully removed it but somehow missed the very first manuscript on the subject.

Honestly, the whole thing is bizarre.
 
Rafin said:
Is this serious or tongue in cheek?
Are we really supposed to actualize our mental characterization of MfD Jiraiya as someone who never kept any readable notes on the 7th Path after his childhood, despite becoming a legendary spymaster and author that felt it useful to keep notes on the local underworld?
If it's more of a spoon thing then I'd rather know that and not change my headcanon of Jiraiya as a decently competent spymaster.
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You have no way of knowing if he kept other notes or not. These are the only notes of his that you have, but that says nothing about whether there are others.

Also, if "we found this one set of 7th-Path notes from kid-Jiraiya that wasn't complete and it doesn't measure up to what I think an appropriate standard is so I'm deciding that adult-Jiraiya is incompetent despite that I hadn't thought that when there were no 7th-Path notes whatsoever" is where your thought process goes, it might be worthwhile to reexamine the tracks on your logic train.
 
eaglejarl said:
Also, if "we found this one set of 7th-Path notes from kid-Jiraiya that wasn't complete and it doesn't measure up to what I think an appropriate standard is so I'm deciding that adult-Jiraiya is incompetent despite that I hadn't thought that when there were no 7th-Path notes whatsoever" is where your thought process goes, it might be worthwhile to reexamine the tracks on your logic train.
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Oh. I thought these were specifically the notes Jiraiya left us as his 7th Path notes. Like, labelled as such. Where did we actually find them?

Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me (it often does that) but I remember that, back when we asked Jiraiya to leave us notes on stuff before going to Nagi Island, you mentioned 7th Path notes being part of that. I don't remember if it was within the story or as a reply to someone asking for it.
If that never actually happened that way and this is simply what we dusted off from his childhood keepsakes or something then I am very wrong.

Still, seeing how he kept partial and chaotic notes on other stuff of arguably less importance, I would have thought that there is more. In fact we know there is at least a bit more because, well, there's clearly something missing at the end.
 
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