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Good chapter. Too tired to try and process the Ino-related parts but overall I'd say that conversation went well. Holding hands is a good sign.

Tentatively in favor of doing the side-quest, seems like a good way to involve Minami and hey, maybe this will finally be our milk run? We're certainly due :₽
 
For the mission, we need to find out where this guy is and if he's hired the ninja yet. If he hasn't, we could probably just disguise ourselves as missing-nin and say we heard he was looking to hire some ninja and that we're up for a quick job in order to get close, then just knock him out once we're close and abscond with him quickly.

Not a lot, since Jiraiya argues that getting the messages to his contacts is more important than keeping the contacts' cover. Which means this guy getting robbed, and his value as a contact diminished, is less important than getting messages to Jiraiya's contacts.

I'm voting NO for doing the assassination mission, mainly since our actual mission is more important than this side-quest.

Jiraiya told us to do missions for his contacts at our discretion, which means he puts enough value on us actually helping out his contacts that the main mission isn't so important that it has to be done as quickly as possible. Quickly, yes, but we apparently can afford some side-missions.

As long as this guy hasn't hired ninja already, the mission should be fairly trivial.
 
I vote we let Minami decide whether we go for the assassination. Showing that we trust her to make the right call might get it through her head that we aren't pretending to respect her.
 
Assuming the contact's intel is correct, we should be able to lure the guy out to prepared ground by posing as a ninja wanting to be hired. We then shake him down, or in the worst case fight an already hired ninja (or three -- on prepared ground). Very little risk.

Of course we do need to do some work to double check the intel, and (imo) drop it like a hot sack of potatoes if anything seems fishy.
 
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I'd like to point out that our contact may have been compromised (like Hashimoto) and this Shirakawa guy is secretly a -insert enemy village nin here- trying to kill off more of Jiraiya's allies by pretending to be a civilian criminal. Or he's been turned, either/or.
 
I'd like to point out that our contact may have been compromised (like Hashimoto) and this Shirakawa guy is secretly a -insert enemy village nin here- trying to kill off more of Jiraiya's allies by pretending to be a civilian criminal. Or he's been turned, either/or.

Sure, albeit unlikely. What information could we look for that would increase or decrease the relative probability of this hypothesis?

To be honest, I am not sure of the value of the alleged chakra snake venom. We already have paralytic poison.

Who knows? It might come in handy. As far as we know, we basically just have to rough up a civilian for it. Would you agree that if it is as simple as roughing up a civilian, that the work is worth it?
 
I'd like to point out that our contact may have been compromised (like Hashimoto) and this Shirakawa guy is secretly a -insert enemy village nin here- trying to kill off more of Jiraiya's allies by pretending to be a civilian criminal. Or he's been turned, either/or.

If he's secretly anti-Leaf, we already messed up big time by giving him that message from the Hokage. Beating up an outlaw for him doesn't really make that any worse, and if we think we should assume he's an enemy regardless, we should just kill him now and hope it doesn't end up as Kabuto 2.0

We don't have any reason to suspect him aside from general all-encompasing suspicions, and unless we find more of a reason then we should assume he's as friendly as our Spymaster Hokage told us he is.
 
If he's secretly anti-Leaf, we already messed up big time by giving him that message from the Hokage. Beating up an outlaw for him doesn't really make that any worse, and if we think we should assume he's an enemy regardless, we should just kill him now and hope it doesn't end up as Kabuto 2.0

We don't have any reason to suspect him aside from general all-encompasing suspicions, and unless we find more of a reason then we should assume he's as friendly as our Spymaster Hokage told us he is.
You bring up a good point.

We should just kill him.

:p
 
You bring up a good point.

We should just kill him.

:p

Hazou: Hi Jira- Hokage-sama! We've finished securing your intelligence network!

Jiraiya: Would this have anything to do with the string of massive explosions throughout the Elemental Nations that just so happens to coincide with the route I gave you?

Hazou: Yep, we've ensured that none of your agents could be compromised!
 
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Why has Wakihasa suddenly become a biologist? This doesn't really jive with his personality at all and doesn't make much sense either. I get that he's training to become a medic nin but that doesn't mean he's all of a sudden also super interested in biology. The progression just doesn't make sense. He's constantly bragging about becoming a premier ninjutsu master; why would he suddenly decide to completely shift gears and focus on medical jutsu?

His main drive has been to be special. He feels bound by his bloodline and clan to an unappreciated support role as a battery.

His interest in medicine is a combination of "oh wow, this makes me valuable as more than chakra storage" and what looks like a natural aptitude. The bio thing is probably a combination of it being useful to understanding medicine, and Kagome and Hazou having some influence on him.

Sealing seems like it's done very little for us compared to what other people are getting out of their skill sets. All of our inventions were actually just ideas that Kagome developed. I understand that sealing is supposed to be very difficult but there hasn't really been a pay off (for our investment) yet. Everything we've done could've been done instead by just giving our ideas to Kagome.

Eh, having the skill itself has been limited for now, but it's largely a matter of whether we need to depend on Kagome. Having a powerful sealer around is not a sure thing.

We told Jiraiya how we invented the skywalkers. This means he can (along with all the other seal masters in Leaf) trivially reinvent the seal. Why on earth would he be so interested in getting us to stay in Leaf? We are people who have betrayed a village before. We've declared that we have loyalties to members of Mist. We've proven time and again that we have almost no ability to keep our mouths shut and are extremely impulsive. At best, we're a liability. At worst, we're a threat to Leaf.

The difference is that Hazou has a track record. The skytowers and skywalkers both. We also came up with a number of older ideas on our own and are using them in creative ways.

For everyone else, it's 3 bloodlines, a capable jounin (who happens to be sexually compatible with Jiraiya) and a sealmaster. He also likely knows the actual circumstances behind the Noodle Incident, and had made allowances for loyalty based on that.

What was the purpose of the three crazy Kagome chapters? Is that going to be the actual back story for this or are you just fucking with us? If I'm becoming completely honest, I sincerely hope it's the latter. Adding that plotline doesn't add anything to the story and, if anything, just makes me less interested. It reads, at least for that section, like you were very liberally using story elements from Ra. I'm just not crazy interested and would prefer if the story stuck to a rational take on the Naruto universe; the back story doesn't do much outside of making it seem much less rational.

It's a quest, we literally asked for them.

That brings me to something bizarre that I've noticed. How have Jiraiya and Mari (as far as I can tell) not picked up on Kagome's sealing genius? He has to be one of the better seal masters in the world; either that, or all of the research he's been doing is actually fairly trivial. I suppose the second is certainly possible but it really doesn't seem that way.

He has, though our perception of Kagome is colored by the fact be that he's Hazou's teacher.

I don't understand Jiraiya's purpose when he's sending us off on this courier mission. He separated us from our greatest combat asset, attached a random inexperienced Chunin as our leader, and then told us to essentially visit every country on the planet in order to deliver messages. This seems both extremely inefficient and also very dangerous. Without any strong combat assets, we're really just a large group of genin and a fortifications expert. It would be very easy for us to get in a fight with somebody stronger than us and get curbstomped. Why would Jiraiya send out his newest agents and members of his clan when there's a decently high chance that one of them dies? It seems odd to me.

It's triage, he has an immense amount of stuff to deal with. He doesn't have the time to protect us from clan machinations on top of everything else. He's sending us off on a low combat mission that plays to our strengths (long distance movement and stealth) to give him one less thing to worry about in the short term.
 
You bring up a good point.

We should just kill him.

:p

But @faflec, have you considered that even if you -think- you killed someone, turned the body to pulp, turned the pulp into ashes, and spread the ashes to a strong east wind, that the whole thing could have just been Genjutsu and they're waiting for you to drop your guard so they can strike?
 
But @faflec, have you considered that even if you -think- you killed someone, turned the body to pulp, turned the pulp into ashes, and spread the ashes to a strong east wind, that the whole thing could have just been Genjutsu and they're waiting for you to drop your guard so they can strike?
If that happens, you have to at least pretend to drop your guard, otherwise they'll realise you saw through the genjutsu and try something even worse next time.
 
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