Well, now we know where Jaffur inherited it from. Yammar stronk.
Was NOT counting on Apra folding up this round; if she hadn't, I think we'd be winning this right about now. Not that I
fault her for it, but it was definitely extra bad luck compounding the bad luck of Lord Vegeta being able to snipe us like that
Also, um. Yammar has at least a +46 on Communications checks.
Communication [Yammar vs. Kakara]: 146 vs. 129.
That's right, he outrolled Kakara on a social check. I don't know what the
purpose of the check was, whether it was a taunt or to get us to calm down long enough for him to finish talking, but he did win that one. I'm pretty sure that
wasn't the spell firing, either.
Hmm, we know Yanmar is trained with Oozaru from the Dazarel fight.
Would it be worth it to try the monkey ball anyway?
Probably not. As Berra demonstrated, Golden Oozaru isn't a debuff compared to FPSS if you know what you're doing. Yammar, I think it's safe to say, does.
Colour me suspicious that we would actually be given useful information, never mind by a non canon negaverse.
I mean you're right, but we already had supporting evidence for that...
Deceit [Kakara vs. Berra and Vegeta]: 68 vs. 26 and 16. Success.
It was stated in the Dandeer Negaverse that the Obedience spell debuffed their Deceit scores. Obviously, the canonicity of that can't be trusted, but it gives me hope we might feasibly sneak a trick past him.
When we threw the powerball we rolled Deceit against Berra
AND Vegeta and beat them
both. Handily, as I recall. I mean shit, I'd expect Vegeta to have better than a 16
just from his bonuses, being as how he's an experienced monarch and deeply suspicious, paranoid, and embittered man. I could be wrong, admittedly, but I don't think I am. Berra, too, should have done better and probably would have under normal conditions.
Either we got preposterously lucky back there (like, they both rolled in the single digits), or the spell is in fact debuffing their Deceit significantly. Go figure since it's a hypnotism spell.
We can't trust the vision, not with Carrick out there as a traitorous/mind-controlled opponent.
No, our best bet is to get to Jaffur/Apra and ram a bean down their throats somehow. Maybe sneak it to them with low-power TK whilst we fight super defensively?
It would seem to leverage our Ki Control/Ki Prodigy traits, if not Oddball. Might exploit Deceit, which would be to our advantage right now as mentioned.
But the problem is, we know from experience that Jaffur will resist a senzu bean when semi-conscious or unconscious. Apra might not, but Yammar implied that she's out even-colder. Also, while both of us put together SHOULD be able to take down Yammar I HOPE... well, Yammar's most famous feat of arms is being the main force behind the defeat of the Talts, and while they were all far weaker than he was, it suggests that he is a goddamn
prodigy at Crowd Fighting.
I'd like to point out that Yammar blocked all that because the Senzu's weren't mental yelling at him, meaning he could get precog info.
That is...
eerily plausible. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Yammar would have had to deceive us if he was bluffing about being able to casually outfight us. And while his Communications is clearly very good, his Deceit SHOULD be debuffed like the others, though possibly still solid despite that depending on exact bonuses and penalties.
Hmmmm, what would happen if we throw killing attacks at Dandeer trusting that he will protect her?
We don't have to worry about our morals because we know that he will stop them and it could give us some seconds to breath.
Even ignoring moral considerations, it doesn't give us seconds where
we're busy and he isn't.
I don't think so? We've worked really quite hard - with Multiform giving us more training - and are literally Exceptional in quite a few areas of combat, which is as good as most people can get. The only area we're behind in is Style training.
I strongly suspect that people like Jaffur and Yammar outclass us not just, or even primarily, because of their superior style training, but because they have trait bonuses to combat.
