really, this is something we should have tried the moment we gained the ability to project outside of Bassoon.
It is a possibility. Kakara's completely unsure of how long any sojourn through Hell would be, though, or who exactly might be waiting for her.
She can ask around, certainly. The fact that she's physical for more than give minutes a day will probably makie it easier, if somebody can.
...y'know what? The [ASK] task was born during a very specific period during my development as a QM, and I feel that it has more than outlived its purpose. It can go; y'all can just ask these questions in-thread.
interesting.
SS2 could solve it, but it definitely impacts our strategy.
Agreed.
I... hmm. I want to say SS2 is more useful, but I actually don't know enough about the combat system to make that call. @PoptartProdigy, is it a bigger bonus to give Kakara four bodies and Exceptional team fighting, or just double her PL? And also, do you have the basic bonus types written down anywhere?
I see your point, but I'd be more focused prepping her for our leaving, instead of making her care more about us just as we're about to leave.
I think a big part of why I've been internally dismissing it is because I know next to nothing about Multiform. Probably a mistake.
I'm more worried about the fact that we're a Saiyan making direct mental contact, to anybody who will listen. There are ways to work around that, but the option as written seems to ignore them - it looks like an afterthought, really. (@PoptartProdigy?)
Ah. My hazy manga knowledge is probably letting me down again.
I contend that she's very likely to control the transformation - ludicrous willpower, an already-dedicated Major Bonus to this particular check, possibly a hidden bonus from her mastery of Spirit Saiyan - but I suppose it's not impossible.
Does it take AP or not?
Spirit Saiyan varies. Kakara technically went spirit saitan after taking energy from just one person in the fight wih Dandeer.
also (just thought about it now) Gotenks achieved it offscreen too (if he can go ssj3 we have to assume he can go ssj2 as well).
that's why I'm asking for her best guess. She used it with a 300 billions PL (if i remember right), and with just Yammar's ki (so that should be a bit more than 2 billions. Namekians will probably give us something in between, and as long as we keep our ki usage to flying and martial arts (no wastefull ki attacks) we should be able to hold on the energy for at least a few hours, possibly more.
Against a peer opponent, it's 4x as many attacks (so 4x the success rate) and arguably 1/4th the attacks taken (vitality isn't split, so either they spread their attacks out or focus one body down, until *poof* that body disappears and it's still a 3-on-1) which is huge.
Without fighting anybody, she figures she could hold it a good hour or so. Social. I'd say 1 AP, not merely from the asking, but from breaking in the new abilities.
Hard to answer. Some enemies just won't be vulnerable to the strength an SSJ can bring to bear, even if there are four of them, so it'd be doubling by default. Others, the extra strength from SSJ2 would be gross overkill, and being able to multitask would be more valuable. Depends on the kind of fight.
I mean, you're training namekians, not just anybody. "Anybody who will listen," is any defense-involved namekian who hears, "hey, you want some Earth-caliber training," and says, "hell yeah, fuck me right up with that shit."
See above.
Er...I'll get back to you once I've calculated their population numbers, but certainly less than the Garenhuld Spirit Bomb against Dazarel.
I really don't get why you'd train ki sense instead of multiform. the second one is certainly closer to a rank up, and once we get the 4 copies we can experiment with self-powered spirit saiyan and other interesting tricks like sharing ki between the copies, or maybe even try to fuse them back together WITHOUT losing the extra ki (though that would probably require another elite+talent...)
Been a while since we've had an omake! Thanks for the submission! As with anything else that deals with future events, non-canon. Bonus goes to controlling the SSJ2 transformation the first time you achieve it. For those keeping track at him, this makes both a greater and lesser bonus stacked towards that purpose.
You get no weight bonuses for that, and no it does not count.
While all of those are interesting, and we should almost certainly get them this year, I really don't see the point of doing them this month. This month, we're juggling preparations for the scouting trip - which Machine Sense should be really helpful for - and everything else we can only do while on Namek. We can train multiform in space, but I don't expect it to help half so much with the actual scouting trip as Machine Sense would.
Honestly, I trust the Guru and the rest of the Elders. They have actual childrearing experience, for one thing. We are friends with her, and I don't expect that to change; remember how the Misfits worked out mechanically - but we're already spending a lot of time training her, helping her ease past the power barrier, and I'm really hoping that will be enough. That option does mostly seem to exist for her benefit, after all.
I was under the impression that minor bonuses are for 'crackfic'? I understand if it isn't compliant, but I'd appreciate a firmer line here - I view omake-writing as part of the game, and I want to play well.
Minor bonuses are for non-canon, which a speculative omake about future events necessarily is. Major and minor stack with each other but not with others of their own type. Please consult the Rules Screen for more.
Hm...past sight in the Cause section is a slight stretch in its reasoning, but I'll say it can go in A Cause. It is well-enough justified. Your visions targeting Haila and his plans will work as well.
about this: at some point tien actually opened a dojo in db super. We could try to look at the lessons he gave to his elite students.
I mean, I can move things around, but the idea is building up our skill/style so we don't get facerolled again by her thralls. The point is "improving our skills for our return".
We're further along to Perfect Multi-form, and of the 2 "big things" I deem it way, way, way, way less of a risk.
My only real problem with the plan is specifying Halia's invasion force.
