Think the color formatting got messed up. Should be an easy fix, at least?
Also, I think you forgot to add Overcharge.
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Also, I think you forgot to add Overcharge.
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Fixed.
Canon Omake: On Bruiser Fiction
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You know what's the best thing to post now?
An entirely irrelevant omake!
The art of writing for entertainment is not a lost art among the Exiles. Throughout their 300-year-long history, there have been authors spinning tales of flight and fantasy, some commenting on the world today through a veil of fiction while others explored other times and themes. From romance to historical fiction to various other genres, the Exiles have created a decent library of works.
But, Saiyans being Saiyans, a certain genre inevitably became the most popular:
Bruiser Fiction.
An offshoot of historical adventure fiction, these stories usually postulate a single question: What if a foe unrecorded to history had attacked Earth, during the time of Son Goku's life? They all followed a similar formula, where the antagonists would show up and disturb Goku and his friend's peaceful life, cause trouble and overpower the heroes until Son Goku is able to pull something out to win. Of course, the devil is in the details, with many throwing in their own twists into the mix, varying the antagonists and suchlike.
It is quite easy to figure out the source of this trend in fiction - a single story named Turles and the Tree of Might. This story focuses on the eponymous Turles, a Saiyan warrior in the same vein as Nappa, and his band of space pirates. One fine winter's day, they land on Earth and unleash the Tree, whos roots drain the planet and most of the inhabitants dry of their energy. Goku and the rest of the Dragon Team go to investigate, resulting in a clash between the pirates and their various gimmicks and the martial artists of Earth, who lose until Goku steps in and defeats all but Turles easily. The battle with Turles goes worse, with Turles consuming a fruit from the tree that massively raises his power to the point where the Kaio-Ken Times Ten proves ineffective. However, when on the brink of defeat, Goku is able to form a Spirit Bomb and destroy the Tree, taking Turles out with it. Though the character of Turles was heavily criticized for being a relatively generic Evil Saiyan from the Bad Old Days, the author's sheer skill at weaving together compelling fight scenes lead the book to become a smash hit almost overnight, and sparking off a wave of imitations.
One of the best of the imitations, if not the best in the genre overall, was a door stopper novel named Clash of the Dragon: If Goku Can't Win, Who Will?? It told the story of Tapion, a magical knight from an ancient era, and his battles to stop and seal away the deadly dragon Hirudegarn who ravaged his home world and the Kashvar race who controlled it. Unlike most Bruiser Fiction tales, Goku and the Dragon Team only show up in the latter half of the book, after a time jump where Tapion succeeds in sealing the dragon away within himself before sealing himself away in a magical music box. In the present, the last Kashvar tricks Gohan and the rest into using Shenron to let Tapion out, before trouble begins. Much time is spent in the book establishing a brotherly bond between Tapion and the then-young Trunks, culminating into a scene where Hiruldegarn is ravaging the city they were in and Tapion begs Trunks to kill him to stop the dragon. The ending, however, is somewhat of a letdown, as Goku is able to use an original technique to defeat Hirudegarn and set Tapion free, before a time machine is used to send him back into the past. Overall, however, most of the book is well-written enough and compelling to the point the ending's mistakes fail, and the author is on record for not having intended to write the ending in that manner.
However, when one thinks of Bruiser Fiction, there is one story that stands above all else as the most archetypal and the most popular:
Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Everyone knows the story, where the eponymous Legendary Super Saiyan is held in check by his father for a revenge plot, until interactions with Goku break him free and he becomes a raging, sadistic monster, cackling as he runs wild over the characters of that time until a single lucky punch from Goku somehow strikes him down.
What few realize, however, is that the book and character were intended to poke fun at the entire genre. Broly, a deliberate twisting of the actual historical figure, changed from a kind-hearted soul who's power raised out of his control to the very picture of an old Saiyan, sadistic and bloodthirsty, who could walk through any and all efforts the Dragon Team threw at him in a deliberate exaggeration of the genre's usual antagonist. His motivations were similarly poked fun at, simply drawn to how powerful Goku was. And yet, somehow, people ate it up, leading to impressive sales, a prequel radio show about Broly's life was written, and the author was convinced by the publishers to make a sequel. The sequel, however, was nowhere near as good, as the author had made Broly's character into a simpleton who's single word was "KAKAROT", before making the entire book a single fight scene.
Though the overall quality of the genre was low, the appeal of it didn't come from the overall quality, but from Big Dangerous Bad Guys fighting Goku and his friends. As long as the author could write a decently engaging fight scene, and pull off a relatively empty Strong Antagonist that was fun to read about beating up people, then sales were functionally guaranteed. The fact such a genre was popular...well, one could make some assumptions about Exile culture from it.
"Monado", I hear you ask, "Is this just an excuse to make every single Dragon Ball movie from the pre-Battle of Gods era into books that Kakara has probably read?"
Yes. Yes it is.
Also I literally banged this out in an hour because I implied a promise to Poptart after shitposting about this with them in PM and they might not have realized it but I did so here it is
An entirely irrelevant omake!
On Bruiser Fiction
Or, Why Broly's Influence On Exile Culture Is Far Different Than You Think
Or, Why Broly's Influence On Exile Culture Is Far Different Than You Think
The art of writing for entertainment is not a lost art among the Exiles. Throughout their 300-year-long history, there have been authors spinning tales of flight and fantasy, some commenting on the world today through a veil of fiction while others explored other times and themes. From romance to historical fiction to various other genres, the Exiles have created a decent library of works.
But, Saiyans being Saiyans, a certain genre inevitably became the most popular:
Bruiser Fiction.
An offshoot of historical adventure fiction, these stories usually postulate a single question: What if a foe unrecorded to history had attacked Earth, during the time of Son Goku's life? They all followed a similar formula, where the antagonists would show up and disturb Goku and his friend's peaceful life, cause trouble and overpower the heroes until Son Goku is able to pull something out to win. Of course, the devil is in the details, with many throwing in their own twists into the mix, varying the antagonists and suchlike.
It is quite easy to figure out the source of this trend in fiction - a single story named Turles and the Tree of Might. This story focuses on the eponymous Turles, a Saiyan warrior in the same vein as Nappa, and his band of space pirates. One fine winter's day, they land on Earth and unleash the Tree, whos roots drain the planet and most of the inhabitants dry of their energy. Goku and the rest of the Dragon Team go to investigate, resulting in a clash between the pirates and their various gimmicks and the martial artists of Earth, who lose until Goku steps in and defeats all but Turles easily. The battle with Turles goes worse, with Turles consuming a fruit from the tree that massively raises his power to the point where the Kaio-Ken Times Ten proves ineffective. However, when on the brink of defeat, Goku is able to form a Spirit Bomb and destroy the Tree, taking Turles out with it. Though the character of Turles was heavily criticized for being a relatively generic Evil Saiyan from the Bad Old Days, the author's sheer skill at weaving together compelling fight scenes lead the book to become a smash hit almost overnight, and sparking off a wave of imitations.
One of the best of the imitations, if not the best in the genre overall, was a door stopper novel named Clash of the Dragon: If Goku Can't Win, Who Will?? It told the story of Tapion, a magical knight from an ancient era, and his battles to stop and seal away the deadly dragon Hirudegarn who ravaged his home world and the Kashvar race who controlled it. Unlike most Bruiser Fiction tales, Goku and the Dragon Team only show up in the latter half of the book, after a time jump where Tapion succeeds in sealing the dragon away within himself before sealing himself away in a magical music box. In the present, the last Kashvar tricks Gohan and the rest into using Shenron to let Tapion out, before trouble begins. Much time is spent in the book establishing a brotherly bond between Tapion and the then-young Trunks, culminating into a scene where Hiruldegarn is ravaging the city they were in and Tapion begs Trunks to kill him to stop the dragon. The ending, however, is somewhat of a letdown, as Goku is able to use an original technique to defeat Hirudegarn and set Tapion free, before a time machine is used to send him back into the past. Overall, however, most of the book is well-written enough and compelling to the point the ending's mistakes fail, and the author is on record for not having intended to write the ending in that manner.
However, when one thinks of Bruiser Fiction, there is one story that stands above all else as the most archetypal and the most popular:
Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Everyone knows the story, where the eponymous Legendary Super Saiyan is held in check by his father for a revenge plot, until interactions with Goku break him free and he becomes a raging, sadistic monster, cackling as he runs wild over the characters of that time until a single lucky punch from Goku somehow strikes him down.
What few realize, however, is that the book and character were intended to poke fun at the entire genre. Broly, a deliberate twisting of the actual historical figure, changed from a kind-hearted soul who's power raised out of his control to the very picture of an old Saiyan, sadistic and bloodthirsty, who could walk through any and all efforts the Dragon Team threw at him in a deliberate exaggeration of the genre's usual antagonist. His motivations were similarly poked fun at, simply drawn to how powerful Goku was. And yet, somehow, people ate it up, leading to impressive sales, a prequel radio show about Broly's life was written, and the author was convinced by the publishers to make a sequel. The sequel, however, was nowhere near as good, as the author had made Broly's character into a simpleton who's single word was "KAKAROT", before making the entire book a single fight scene.
Though the overall quality of the genre was low, the appeal of it didn't come from the overall quality, but from Big Dangerous Bad Guys fighting Goku and his friends. As long as the author could write a decently engaging fight scene, and pull off a relatively empty Strong Antagonist that was fun to read about beating up people, then sales were functionally guaranteed. The fact such a genre was popular...well, one could make some assumptions about Exile culture from it.
"Monado", I hear you ask, "Is this just an excuse to make every single Dragon Ball movie from the pre-Battle of Gods era into books that Kakara has probably read?"
Yes. Yes it is.
Also I literally banged this out in an hour because I implied a promise to Poptart after shitposting about this with them in PM and they might not have realized it but I did so here it is
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Aaaaaaaahahahahahaha! Canon, I love it. Also a good way of jettisoning pre-Super Broly. I approve.You know what's the best thing to post now?
An entirely irrelevant omake!
On Bruiser Fiction
Or, Why Broly's Influence On Exile Culture Is Far Different Than You Think
The art of writing for entertainment is not a lost art among the Exiles. Throughout their 300-year-long history, there have been authors spinning tales of flight and fantasy, some commenting on the world today through a veil of fiction while others explored other times and themes. From romance to historical fiction to various other genres, the Exiles have created a decent library of works.
But, Saiyans being Saiyans, a certain genre inevitably became the most popular:
Bruiser Fiction.
An offshoot of historical adventure fiction, these stories usually postulate a single question: What if a foe unrecorded to history had attacked Earth, during the time of Son Goku's life? They all followed a similar formula, where the antagonists would show up and disturb Goku and his friend's peaceful life, cause trouble and overpower the heroes until Son Goku is able to pull something out to win. Of course, the devil is in the details, with many throwing in their own twists into the mix, varying the antagonists and suchlike.
It is quite easy to figure out the source of this trend in fiction - a single story named Turles and the Tree of Might. This story focuses on the eponymous Turles, a Saiyan warrior in the same vein as Nappa, and his band of space pirates. One fine winter's day, they land on Earth and unleash the Tree, whos roots drain the planet and most of the inhabitants dry of their energy. Goku and the rest of the Dragon Team go to investigate, resulting in a clash between the pirates and their various gimmicks and the martial artists of Earth, who lose until Goku steps in and defeats all but Turles easily. The battle with Turles goes worse, with Turles consuming a fruit from the tree that massively raises his power to the point where the Kaio-Ken Times Ten proves ineffective. However, when on the brink of defeat, Goku is able to form a Spirit Bomb and destroy the Tree, taking Turles out with it. Though the character of Turles was heavily criticized for being a relatively generic Evil Saiyan from the Bad Old Days, the author's sheer skill at weaving together compelling fight scenes lead the book to become a smash hit almost overnight, and sparking off a wave of imitations.
One of the best of the imitations, if not the best in the genre overall, was a door stopper novel named Clash of the Dragon: If Goku Can't Win, Who Will?? It told the story of Tapion, a magical knight from an ancient era, and his battles to stop and seal away the deadly dragon Hirudegarn who ravaged his home world and the Kashvar race who controlled it. Unlike most Bruiser Fiction tales, Goku and the Dragon Team only show up in the latter half of the book, after a time jump where Tapion succeeds in sealing the dragon away within himself before sealing himself away in a magical music box. In the present, the last Kashvar tricks Gohan and the rest into using Shenron to let Tapion out, before trouble begins. Much time is spent in the book establishing a brotherly bond between Tapion and the then-young Trunks, culminating into a scene where Hiruldegarn is ravaging the city they were in and Tapion begs Trunks to kill him to stop the dragon. The ending, however, is somewhat of a letdown, as Goku is able to use an original technique to defeat Hirudegarn and set Tapion free, before a time machine is used to send him back into the past. Overall, however, most of the book is well-written enough and compelling to the point the ending's mistakes fail, and the author is on record for not having intended to write the ending in that manner.
However, when one thinks of Bruiser Fiction, there is one story that stands above all else as the most archetypal and the most popular:
Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Everyone knows the story, where the eponymous Legendary Super Saiyan is held in check by his father for a revenge plot, until interactions with Goku break him free and he becomes a raging, sadistic monster, cackling as he runs wild over the characters of that time until a single lucky punch from Goku somehow strikes him down.
What few realize, however, is that the book and character were intended to poke fun at the entire genre. Broly, a deliberate twisting of the actual historical figure, changed from a kind-hearted soul who's power raised out of his control to the very picture of an old Saiyan, sadistic and bloodthirsty, who could walk through any and all efforts the Dragon Team threw at him in a deliberate exaggeration of the genre's usual antagonist. His motivations were similarly poked fun at, simply drawn to how powerful Goku was. And yet, somehow, people ate it up, leading to impressive sales, a prequel radio show about Broly's life was written, and the author was convinced by the publishers to make a sequel. The sequel, however, was nowhere near as good, as the author had made Broly's character into a simpleton who's single word was "KAKAROT", before making the entire book a single fight scene.
Though the overall quality of the genre was low, the appeal of it didn't come from the overall quality, but from Big Dangerous Bad Guys fighting Goku and his friends. As long as the author could write a decently engaging fight scene, and pull off a relatively empty Strong Antagonist that was fun to read about beating up people, then sales were functionally guaranteed. The fact such a genre was popular...well, one could make some assumptions about Exile culture from it.
"Monado", I hear you ask, "Is this just an excuse to make every single Dragon Ball movie from the pre-Battle of Gods era into books that Kakara has probably read?"
Yes. Yes it is.
Also I literally banged this out in an hour because I implied a promise to Poptart after shitposting about this with him in PM and he might not have realized it but I did so here it is
Bonus goes to fighting stronger opponents!Also:
They.
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MB, will fixAaaaaaaahahahahahaha! Canon, I love it. Also a good way of jettisoning pre-Super Broly. I approve.
Also:
They.
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ok, now you have to write about the romance stories with Broly the Husbando though!"Monado", I hear you ask, "Is this just an excuse to make every single Dragon Ball movie from the pre-Battle of Gods era into books that Kakara has probably read?"
Yes. Yes it is.
Also I literally banged this out in an hour because I implied a promise to Poptart after shitposting about this with them in PM and they might not have realized it but I did so here it is
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nah
I've got other things I'd wanna omake about
if you wanna do that, though, be my guest
Aaaaaaaahahahahahaha! Canon, I love it. Also a good way of jettisoning pre-Super Broly. I approve.
Also:
They.
Awww, I really wanted to see what you would have done with Broly. Oh well.
Out of curiosity, if you were beginning this quest today, how would you change things to fit Broly in?
EDIT: Nevermind, I miss read what is actually in the omake. Derp.
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Z Broly used to be canon, actually.Awww, I really wanted to see what you would have done with Broly. Oh well.
Out of curiosity, if you were beginning this quest today, how would you change things to fit Broly in?
Poptart just completely tossed him once Dragon Ball Super: Broly released and was the far superior and easily inserted movie.
I missed in the omake where it said "a twisting of a historical character".
Damn me and my poor reading ability. -_-.
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IIRC Poptart used to roll for the "Legendary Super Saiyan" form showing up in characters
all things considered tho, considering it's basically "Super Saiyan 1.5: Now with Added Invincibility That Pops Like A Balloon Once You Fight A Peer", it's probably for the best it never showed up
Green is now the color of "Oh God Oh Fuck You're Bootlegging Your Oozaru Form Power On Top Of Your Base Form Without Going Giant Monkey, How Have You Not Exploded Yet"
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[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
Made it to present! Redemption/a chance to rearm for villains is practically required.
PoptartProdigy, how far off the rails is the quest from where you expected in to be when you started out?
How scared is Kakara of looking back home, since she's failed to do so for this long?
I expect all the captured scouts have been killed/mind controlled by Dandeer. It's going to be a bad day when Tamar gets there.
Made it to present! Redemption/a chance to rearm for villains is practically required.
PoptartProdigy, how far off the rails is the quest from where you expected in to be when you started out?
How scared is Kakara of looking back home, since she's failed to do so for this long?
I expect all the captured scouts have been killed/mind controlled by Dandeer. It's going to be a bad day when Tamar gets there.
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Welcome aboard!
Incredibly far off the rails. I had no clue that it was going to end up here.
In-character? Some intersection of too scared to look and refusing to acknowledge that she even wants to because she's afraid what she sees will incapacitate her. This is incredibly sustainable.
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Just as a quick update for y'all, I've finished updating the backend stuff for Terminus Quest and and moving on to Victoria Falls. Once I've finished there, we'll be back into the regular update cycle. Thank you for your patience!
So, here's something Kakara might want to think about.
The default battle aura is soft. That's not to say it can't break things, because obviously it can, but fundamentally? It's a cushion, or a stiff breeze. It radiates amorphously. Its' unperturbed form is a sphere. It's not a hammer, or even a rubber mallet.
What would happen if she changed that? Made it gelid and sticky, to ensnare people? Made it fibrous and springy, for better defense? Inverted it, trading the softening for hardening?
I want this to be a research project.
The default battle aura is soft. That's not to say it can't break things, because obviously it can, but fundamentally? It's a cushion, or a stiff breeze. It radiates amorphously. Its' unperturbed form is a sphere. It's not a hammer, or even a rubber mallet.
What would happen if she changed that? Made it gelid and sticky, to ensnare people? Made it fibrous and springy, for better defense? Inverted it, trading the softening for hardening?
I want this to be a research project.
If she could somehow form her battle-aura into a shell instead of letting it radiate, it could do amazing things for her stealth while powered-up, and potentially grant a massive boost to her resilience and to how unyielding her blows are, but it would be quite the undertaking. I am really not sure where she would even start.
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Isn't that effectively what the few shield techniques we see are?
I'm not convinced that radiating ki is actually what gets sensed.
@PoptartProdigy, fact check here. Does a Kamehameha read as a higher power level than a noncompressed blast? Lower, because there's less bleed? Or - my current guess - exactly the same PL, just more compressed?
I'm beginning to think Ki is sort of a portal, or maybe the incarnation of something. The higher the power level, the more it can be spread around without losing coherence - but you can have nanojoules worth of ki that still read as PL in the thousands. If that's true, Ki Stealth wouldn't be a matter of keeping the ki contained, but rather the signals the ki emits.
I'm guessing this model is at least a bit wrong, because otherwise filling the area with a fine mist of high-PL ki would be a very cheap ki-sense-baffling technique, and that seems too obvious for Kakara to not know already. But making a FPSS Kamehameha doesn't shatter the wards, despite it presumably having a much greater density of Ki than a FPSS Oozaru.
So what's going on?
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Raditz versus Goku and Piccolo says the answer is 'Yes'.
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The fight Mona references in the manga has compressed blasts reading significantly higher. The wards have significant ability to contain brief surges of higher power levels, and can survive the blasts.
Ki signatures are radiated ki.
Which is why it would be extremely difficult to figure out how to get started, given that nearly all that we know is about controlling ki, and this would be something-
- Oh, okay, that is cool too. Well it still suggests that the radiant ki is somehow uncontrolled. Maybe this is overflow, maybe it is some sort of fine-grain ki that is difficult to grasp, maybe there is a sort of focus issue, where controlling high-density ki makes it difficult to grasp ki of lower densities. A bit like a cross-hatch filter, with a big heavy one with strong beams but large holes, so it can stop very strong things but experiences more leakage. It does suggest that there are things that we could do.
If it is overflow, then maybe we could refine our ki--self-image/-form/-flow/go full cultivator and start building internal ki-organs... then we might be able to be more more controlled in our ki expression, but it would probably result in far lesser power-level gains than would be achieved with more conventional training, because it isn't actually adding anything and just stuffing more power into the thing seems pretty easy, especially for Saiyans. Then again, it might allow much greater focus, akin to the magnifying glass to the ant...
If it is kai granularity or similar, then training to control would again likely not add much brute force, but might extend some interesting fine detail control. Maybe some kai-wave texturing effects, or a ki micro-particle projection cannon that penetrates opponents' defences with kai whose nature makes it difficult for them to willingly interact with in order to counter.
It might be possible to build up our ki muscles with an aim towards less strengthening to withstand greater power and more evening-out to produce less leakage. As with placing the beams of a filter nearer together. It would probably not do much other than to stop the leakage, to lower our discernible presence and maybe improve our ability to concentrate ki into small packages, but more likely just see an elevation in our ki-blast potency due to eliminating some leakage that we didn't notice before. Useful, but seems inefficient for anything except getting a higher P.L. without increasing visibility.
Who knows what would happen if we just tried to concentrate our kai into an extremely complicated new heart-like structure that pumps ki instead of blood, through brand-new ki-vessels, that slowly replace our old circulatory system.... It does seem like the sort of experiment that is best attempted when one is not currently using one's body, so now is the perfect time!
Interesting. I wonder if the Saiyan Zenkai and the apparently-both-Saiyan-and-Majinn Copy Technique abilities are based on reading and mimicking the ki that hits them?
Except zenkai also almost certainly works if the damage is from a non-ki source. An insight into the mechanics of Machine Sense, perhaps.
Ki signatures being radiation also suggests a cheap-and-dirty approach to ki stealth - just aim all the radiation in one direction, and point it outside the galactic plane. Might need to be a spell, but it'd seem a lot easier than having to contain everything.
Things I'm fairly sure of:
*Ki 'clumps' when collected coherently, such as in someone's body. There is a standard level of clumping for any given concentration of ki. 'Larger' clumps travel further before they stop being detectable. (I'm going to refer to clumps as 'motes' from now on, on aesthetic grounds.)
*Despite using particle terms, I'm not certain ki is made of particles. It may be made of fields. (Not being made of particles does not necissitate infinite divisibility, although it may imply infinite granularity above minimum size.)
*Conventional power evaluation is based on 'mote size'. Actual energy output is probably a function of ki-per-volume-per-second.
*Ki is inflected, carrying information related to the originator - such as emotional state and identity - along with physical characteristics like heat and elasticity. Ki control can manipulate some or all of these characteristics.
*Some ki characteristics can prevent compressed motes from condensing; selfhood structures within a Genki Dama are one of these, Overdrive and Refinement mechanics are another.
*Ki is usually not generated as fast as the user can spend it. Instead, a large fraction of a person's supply is stored somehow. Dazarel's feeding technique increases his tank size disproportionally to his regen rate and maximum throughput.
*Since power level is historically reliable, size of ki-mote has traditionally scaled with every nonmechanical method of increasing available force. The exceptions must thus be extremely unusual somehow.
*Non-weaponized ki radiation is basically never harmful, at least at known saturation levels. The simple explanation is that it's just not harmful, period. The complicated alternative is that how much ki gets released doesn't really change, how far away it stays coherent/moving/recognizable does, and the maximum detectable range given nondecaying coherence has never been found. (And indeed may be longer than the longest axis of the universe.)
*Oozaru's exceptional strength and durability is basically a factor of constant x1.5 Overdrive, their storage tank is at least that much bigger to compensate, and their base speed is actually one-third rather than one-half.
Suspicions:
*'Tank size' is fairly consistent. 'Nozzle size' is extremely consistent. (I'm not sure if it's directly proportional to body mass, or if body enhancement just gets more efficient at larger sizes. The latter does seem more likely to me, however.)
*Refinement is a matter of imposing universal compression on your ki, pushing it into a smaller space without letting it link up like normal. I suspect the stealth was a happy side effect of wanting the ki compressed without changing its' self-repulsion factor, so it would be a technique Jaffur could apply to everything.
*Overdrive is a matter of loosening ki, making it flow faster. This also, quite incidentally, lets it exist at higher pressures without condensing into larger motes.
*Ki radiation is actually instantaneous, making 'velocity' senses impossible, and historically making saturation senses unnecessary, since metadata like mote size and originating-creature-or-ki-construct were enough for all purposes.
Questions for @PoptartProdigy:
*Was Kakara safely donating Super Saiyan levels of ki to Fennella a matter of doing it slowly enough, of aligning the ki with healing/empowerment, or something else?
*To ki sense, is there a material difference between being hit with a low-power ki wave and the incidental radiation of a high-power collection of ki?
*Likewise, how does one distinguish between distant powerful ki signatures and nearby weak ones? Is it a matter of source-size?
*Did Kakara's Spirit Saiyan experiments manage to test donating half her ki to Bassoon before absorbing it again?
*If two people mix their ki into one (non-Spirit-Bomb) blast, does it read as one signature worth the sum of their donated ki, or as two, worth the ki they each donated?
*Do bigger people seem to have a significant advantage in beam struggles, given the same PL? (I am not referring to Oozaru here.)
*Does an Overdriven Kamehameha read at the power level it hits at?
*Have Bassoon or Dazarel ever heard of a species with exceptional endurance for their power level? (Exceptional either way, good or bad.)
*Does the way ki degrades over distance make it hard to distinguish a nearby weak signature from a distant powerful one?
--If not, is it because of a spiritual inflection difference (like how you can read emotional states from ki signatures, apparently distinct from reading bodily tells)?
*Does Oozaru have more endurance than base form, even accounting for power level and durability differences?
*Is ki's detectable radius directly proportional to its' power level?
Research Projects:
*Does ki have a maximum density, beyond which it's not merely impractical-at-one's-level to condense further, but impossible even with help?
*What happens when you try to split ki that's already at minimum density?
*Kaio-Ken involves forcing the body to generate larger motes. Willpower pushes do much the same thing, but with the spirit. What's the shoki - mind ki - equivalent?
*Refinement makes ki look more liquid. Overdrive makes it look like plasma. What happens if you make it solid? And is there another gas state, or is the default 'flame' shape all there is for that?
*It seems like it should be possible to invert Overdrive, making one read at the same power level but spending much less energy. How? And what does it look like?
*Is ki generation fundamentally proportionate to tank size, or is there a third part one can target?
-Dazarel sleeps a really long time between worlds, which might be a matter of his tank size vastly outstripping his power generation. Does he sleep more than a dragon of his strength normally would?
-If tank size doesn't have to be proportionate to generation capacity, can Perfect Multiform be made more efficient by boosting power generation without boosting tank size?
Open questions, which I don't expect answers for soon:
*Is ki generated by ki-producers, or tapped from somewhere?
*How is ki stored?
*Is ki actually particulate?
*Where does ki come from, anyway? Do creatures actually spin it from nothing, or is there a plane they gather it from, or what?
*How does mechanical energy factor in?
*How does Zenō's anti-universe ability factor in?
Not sure where to put this:
*When Overdrive was introduced, Tabe's ki felt 'thin and stretched' - which did take a Ki Sense check to detect. But when Kakara fought Jaffur that first time, his Ki Refinement wasn't described as weird to ki sense. Granted, the reading that from Tabe required a Ki Sense check, and it might have just been a case of reading Tabe's stamina/physical condition from his ki signature, rather than an aspect of his ki itself. But this is a lot of what I'm basing my 'ki tank' theory on, and it's kind of weird. Also, it suggests that Refinement and Overdrive aren't fundamentally inversions of each other, even if they're related processes.
...So I've just spent most of yesterday and part of the day before working on this writeup. It's 1215 words, after editing in another basic physics question I'd forgotten. Does this get me an omake bonus?
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
- Link it so I can review, it has been years.
- Depends on the person sensing it.
- Same way you can tell the difference between a baseball in front of your face and a skyscraper on the horizon.
- No because she cannot form a Spirit Bomb inside of Bassoon's head and doesn't have enough outside time to experiment yet.
- One.
- No.
- No.
- Their response is to snort and ask what, "Standard," is supposed to mean.
- You already asked this.
- No.
- This one is hard to answer because the rate at which detectable range increases doesn't seem to be regular and the Exiles' sample sizes are demonstrably limited.
No.
No kidding - more than four, in fact. Also, it's apparently a Compliant omake, and didn't say quite what I thought it did. (To be precise, it says Kakara set the boost to 'drip feed so it would last longer, since it's so far above her cap'. No mention of it hurting her. On the other hand, unsealing Jaffur by ki donation sufficient to knock him out was mentioned. Do you mind expanding on that?)
Even after spending a whole AP on it the other month? She did get enough to figure out that multiforms are too spiritually similar to benefit from the isolation, at least.
Which is to say lots, and fairly randomly distributed?
Whoops. Sorry about that.
Does Bassoon know any more about this?
Do you dislike me asking these? I really wasn't kidding when I said how much work it took.
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