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Dragon Ball: After the End

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[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
"So tell me a little about what made you come to Garenhuld," you saw,
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You probably meant 'say', unless Kakara is kid of buzzing it out.
PoptartProdigy said:
"Twenty-four. And the twenty-fifth was Garenhuld. In a galaxy of thousands of planets, it only took twenty-five tries for you to find one that had strong enough defenders all on its own to fight you off." And in those twenty-five planet -- with all of those people eaten -- you only got up to around nine hundred million for a power level."
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pandadogunited said:
I have a feeling the enemy trained Dazarel and he grows stronger through eating people, hence he went after saiyans
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Nah, it's someone else. Remember the whole Wyrm of the Void title we interrogated him about.

[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.

I'm sure someone could come up with a case for not training Dazarel, but I don't intend to go otherwise in votes at this juncture.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.

I've already said my peace.
 
[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.

Between the probability of gaining new insights by teaching someone and the strong likelihood that whoever sabotaged him will be a problem later, not to mention the mathematical justification QTesseract used(essentially, once he's at 5 billion or so an average of 36 million a planet won't mean much to him) making him not destroy planets any more out of pragmatism, it would take a very good argument to have me not vote this way.

I suggest we teach him at least one of our KI refinement Skills fairly early on so he has something to work on without our direct supervision. I'd go with Overdrive since it seems like the best fit for him as he is.
 
pandadogunited said:
My hunch that the enemy trained Dazarel
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Nah.
PoptartProdigy said:
You hum quietly. "And earlier? You called yourself, 'King of Endings.' 'Wyrm of the Void.'" You shove his jaw into the ground a little harder. I don't like to hear that right next to somebody talking about the Enemy. Explain.

He growls quietly at the pressure, but remains limp. It's...nothing. I eat planets. What do you think the names mean?

You mentioned the Enemy right afterwards, you reply. I See things, Dazarel. Remember that.

He huffs. I don't know any more than you! Somehow the galaxy found out that your Enemy keeps on talking about himself as an agent of the void. Void this, void that! I...hoped to borrow some menace, secondhand.
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[X] Yes, train Dazarel. It will take a lot of effort over a very long time, but with your own plans to reverse a great many sealings, you're of the opinion that Dazarel's prison no longer seems as comfortably secure as you once thought it. You would like him not to want to be a problem. And...a part of you -- one you are mostly and unsuccessfully trying to ignore -- feels sorry for him. He is the way he is because he was manipulated into hurting himself and hundreds of billions of other people for somebody else's ends. Nobody should live like that -- and this, you can fix. Options to train Dazarel as a means of redeeming him become available on monthly votes.
 
Reading that Dazarel comment again, have we considered an emissary of the Void as in the Final Fantasy Void for The Enemy's identity?

Basically, each universe is spawned from another universe. This traces back to the original, which spawned from a single crystal, which emerged spontaneously from The Void. However, The Void is sentient, and it wants all these things it never intended to create back. This is generally accomplished by agents who do things like pull chunks of their world into The Void(though this is reversible as long as the entire world isn't eaten) and in general attempt to destroy the universe they're in. The Crystals prevent it from simply eating reality, so The Void has to be more circumspect. By the same token, the rules or the universe in question have to be payed at least lip service for more or less the same reason. Were this the case, it would be looking for a cosmic keystone which would presumably be with Xeno'o.

It would also explain why the Super Dragon Balls can't do anything about it. It's basically an omniversal cosmic force's lieutenant, who Un-Creates things it kills, dragging them out of the cosmos. That black wall from the Vision might well have been a portal to The Void. Of course it felt evil. It hates everything that exists because it exists and would be instinctively rejected by everything in the universe because the Crystals know exactly what that thing is and they're the source of all souls so everything with a soul would realize as well on some level.

I'm aware the RP has some idea, but things might be different here.
 
I like the idea that the Absolute Depravity Barrier is actually an extraomniversal portal. Partly because it suggests that being a sufficiently clever creator-god would allow someone to survive, and possibly even return, after going through it.
On the other hand, such a thing would surely complicate any fight with Zeno-o. Which might not be desirable from a meta perspective.
 
HoratioVonBecker said:
I like the idea that the Absolute Depravity Barrier is actually an extraomniversal portal. Partly because it suggests that being a sufficiently clever creator-god would allow someone to survive, and possibly even return, after going through it.
On the other hand, such a thing would surely complicate any fight with Zeno-o. Which might not be desirable from a meta perspective.
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Things have been restored from The Void, but it's always required help from Crystals. Though, people chosen by them seem able to channel this to at least not instantly die despite fighting on the precipice of reality and The Void. As in, the battle background is a whirlpool of NOTHING. So, if Zeno'o has the Crystals of each universe, then he could probably use those to push back The Void. On the other hand, The Enemy would very much want to destroy them, because they're the only reason The Void can't just eat those universes itself. Xeno'o's problem might be less that they can't fight The Enemy while using the Crystals, but that they've only got 12 and any failure risks permanent destruction of a universe, since the restored universes from the Tournament of Power would be respawned from the Crystals. I sort of doubt Xeno'o has any experience with an Escort Mission of that magnitude.
 
Well, I seriously doubt it'd be quite such a one-to-one transposition. More likely, Zeno-o himself is the crystal equivalent (if there is one). I was more guessing that the Barrier isn't what the Enemy would use on him, that he's meaningfully less equipped than Kakara to escape the Void Beyond The Multiverse, or that no, the barrier really isn't survivable.
 
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