Yes, but as has been established our teacher and potentially all materials are suspect because DANDEER.
Why he wasn't paying any attention to us when we grabbed her tail he was too busy turning Apra into a fine red mist.
Well if Poptart had the only solution locked behind an option that has had immense suspicion cast on it over the course of the past few turns, I'd feel somewhat miffed.
can't we use a bean already on Apra's person? she should have a few.
If he can't see us this might work. We might even say something to distract him further first. Maybe a "You win, i surrender" -zip- "or not"
What is this "fair fight" you speak of?
unless we could take the vision WHILE talking. I'm not sure if we can, but it's an idea.
On the other hand, it might be Gohan trying to give us a fight-winning option. We just can't tell.
I don't even know what that would look like. That's such wild speculation I genuinely can't think of what contingency Dandeer could have had that beating Yammar or getting our allies back up won't defeat, that doesn't just mean we lose automatically anyway.
I'm pretty sure the subverted Seer who was feeding Dandeer information up until literal seconds ago is a more likely culprit than Gohan, who has never sent us a vision before even during crucial moments like the Dazarel fight.
Even if he recognized the stalling immediately like before we even opened our mouth to begin stalling it changes nothing it just means we've lost the chance to delay fighting Yammar longer well we get Senzu beans to our allies so we have no reason not to go through with this.
He's not deaf he should of at least heard our dad or Dandeer herself if not seen Dandeer at some point during his long fight so odds our he saw what we did.
Again disagree, talking is a two-way street and it gives him the opportunity to figure out our plan. Not seeing enough of a reward out of it with the potential risk.
Why couldn't he keep up? And if we get Dandeer, why is this a better option than using her as a meatshield again? It worked so well last time!
Who says anything about a contingency?
Leading him into an ambush is the potential good. If anyone can come up with people outside of the misfits that could turn the tide, suggestions are welcome.
...How could he possibly figure out our plan when triggers for willpower checks would have nothing to do with feeding senzu beans to our allies in the current situation? Unless your saying that not fighting him means he'll be paying more attention to his surroundings meaning he has a higher chance of spotting us using TK on senzu beans to which my reply would be the willpower checks he has to keep taking should provide a distraction to help with that.
Imma level with you LagsAlot, I don't think Yammar's the kind of person who pays attention to his enemy talking when he isn't mind controlled. Or takes what the person is saying seriously at least.
IT to Dandeer should work as long as we do it well still in the rubble since Yammar would have no possible way of seeing us raise our fingers to our forehead meaning that he can't possibly counter it and from there we can use to the Dandeer flail to make the TK beans into allies mouth and make them swallow more successful by forcing Yammar to talk or fight us which even if he gets his hands on Dandeer is still to our advantage since he'll have to take the time to feed Dandeer a senzu bean giving us more time to TK beans to our allies and he'll have to protect her well fighting us.
There's only so much he can ignore when you literally force memories of Dandeer massacring the clan Vegeta's sorcerers on him through a telepathy link.
Not deaf just in a life or death situation and trying very hard to kill grama.
Because we can teleport he can't.
Yammar can't notice us ITing to Dandeer because he can't see the visual cue we're about to IT, due to the rubble.
There are no people on the planet relevant to an SSJ fight except the other SSJs, sufficiently prepared Master Sorcerers, and apparently traitorous Seers. At their PL, the Misfits are completely irrelevant - they're all weaker than a Saiyan warrior.
It's not a Gokun-only technique, Jaffur knows it. It's just the Senzus who didn't know it.
Alright even if he didn't see Kakara grab Dandeers tail and he some how manages to take Dandelor from us we still held the advantage for the time we had her and let me refer you to the rest of my argument on this:
Well, first off, was it actually said he can't see us? And even if he can't, he can still sense us though, and moving will likely shift the rubble. Not to mention that there'll be a brief period where we're lunging to grab Dandeer that we're open.
(emphasis mine)
We're literally buried in rubble - he can probably sense us, but not see us, and vice versa.
