In that case, I think that's an argument for sending Dennis with Russ. Because this map is also a hint as to where to find Donald, which is something I expect Russ to have exactly 0 issues with, and all things considered "going on an adventure and happening to pick up cool stuff on the way" is a framing that I don't expect him to have any problems with helping us out on. Also, Dennis getting more loyalty is unlikely to hurt and we don't need him for national actions.
I mean, if we put off doing Xanadu for November/December we could fit in Dennis finding a master in Kung Fool. Not sure how long the training would take though.

I don't think that Dennis really adds anything to the quest statline though? I'd also be wary of having Dennis be put in a position where it could turn out that the Three Caballeros (Donald) are trying to beat Felldrake, who we are allied with.
 
This turn's as good a turn as any. With DC 40 Reach out to Shego being one of our actions, we only need one Diplo hero this turn, which - along with the popular relatively low-DC Stewardship actions and the presence of our Ninjas - means we can use Mirage for a quest this turn. I'd rather stick her on something SRA related because Mirage could really use that personally, but if people want to stick her on an unrelated Intrigue action anyway, then I'd rather send her to Xanadu.
The issue is we're assuming that Insuricare has a low DC but if it doesn't we'd be best assigning Mirage to that instead
First, why are we focusing on Wendy and not Kitsune? Occult right now is our weakest link with only 1 effective Occult Hero and Wendy is only usefull in lowering the DC of AI. We obviously not going to be focusing on AI in the next two turn with us focusing on Dino and Spaceship while instead we are going to have our single Occult Hero going on the Auction and then Xanadu. Isn't it more efficient if we recruit Kitsune first and then Wendy the turn after? Then we can fill in all the National Action with people that is actually specializing on them.
1) We need a hero that can replace Goofy as a Diplomacy hero which they both might be able to do but it's easier to justify sparing Wendy than Kitsune

2) Tobe isn't a bad Occult hero and for all we know he could get a bonus from Golden Fan

3) From what I've seen what we're researching is still heavily debated and I feel we're not researching AI it's because we're waiting to recruit Wendy first

4) We clearly intend to track down Star and/or Marco who almost certainly both have Occult scores

5) We don't know anything about Kitsune but we do have enough meta knowledge to trust Wendy
Two. Why do people put on Goofy in recruiting when he doesn't really needed there and Max could do it in his stead? The DC on recruiting are 70 while combined Diplo Stat of Doof and Max are 31. Use XP on it and then we will only need 30+ Rolls to succeed with no chance of Critical Failure. Goofy need to finish his Personal Action, we had been pulling him too much from there already.
A bonus of 31 for a DC 70 action isn't great, especially on something as important as recruiting a new hero

And since the whole point of recruiting Wendy is to have a Diplomacy hero to replace Goofy I don't mind using him one more time before giving him his break
 
How exactly is that first statement relevant at all? Those actions have been taken because we had no choice. I don't want to lose out on recruiting a new hero.
Just explaining where we can put Lizzie is all. The point is we already had a Hero Unit who can fill in the Second learning action. We are also going to recruit her this turn and that means whoever we are recruiting will only availabe the turn after. By that time Coyote should be free from his Stewardship Action thus we can put Coyote on Martial Upgrading the Normbots with Lizzie decentralizing them at the same time. Leaving enough room for Jumba to search the Spaceship in the second learning action and Ludivine for her personal action.
 
I mean, if we put off doing Xanadu for November/December we could fit in Dennis finding a master in Kung Fool. Not sure how long the training would take though.

I don't think that Dennis really adds anything to the quest statline though? I'd also be wary of having Dennis be put in a position where it could turn out that the Three Caballeros (Donald) are trying to beat Felldrake, who we are allied with.
Yah, but then we would be A) telling the Feds we are assembling a world conquering army B) taking Russ away from valuable Intrigue actions.
He adds have a sandwich, which is nice, but i mostly want him for the fact that he allows us to not tell the feds we're doing that. If he's on the quest, then it's "Finding Donald."

Them trying to beat Felldrake seems unlikely. He's, uh, kinda already lost? He wasn't doing anything before we showed up, and isn't doing that much now either. That being said, if giving up Felldrake means recruiting Donald I don't think it's that bad of a trade, since that would imply that felldrake has been hiding some important secrets from us, and an untrustworthy ally is just a time bomb.
 
We might not be able to send Jana depending on what looking for Star and Marco looks like.

if it's a quest or personal action we'll need her to spearhead it with Max tagging along to support and if it's not explicitly dangerous Vanessa to complete the group.

and looking for those two takes priority over basicly everything as they've got info we need and are key to ensuring Janna's continued loyalty
 
Just explaining where we can put Lizzie is all. The point is we already had a Hero Unit who can fill in the Second learning action. We are also going to recruit her this turn and that means whoever we are recruiting will only availabe the turn after. By that time Coyote should be free from his Stewardship Action thus we can put Coyote on Martial Upgrading the Normbots with Lizzie decentralizing them at the same time. Leaving enough room for Jumba to search the Spaceship in the second learning action and Ludivine for her personal action.
30 Learning isn't all that good compared to 38 or 40. I don't think that your proposals are really worth it. Wendy will also help us get our AI research.

He adds have a sandwich, which is nice, but i mostly want him for the fact that he allows us to not tell the feds we're doing that. If he's on the quest, then it's "Finding Donald."

Them trying to beat Felldrake seems unlikely. He's, uh, kinda already lost? He wasn't doing anything before we showed up, and isn't doing that much now either. That being said, if giving up Felldrake means recruiting Donald I don't think it's that bad of a trade, since that would imply that felldrake has been hiding some important secrets from us, and an untrustworthy ally is just a time bomb.
They are trying to destroy the armies that Felldrake has sealed away. It is the plot of the canon show and we know that it is happening (with alterations of course). We might be able to Diplomacy our way into getting the 3 Caballeros and the adventure goddess (can't remember her name) into collaborating, but not really sure on that. We are probably safe to bring Dennis to Xanadu. Though I still don't see what benefit Dennis would give us. Well, Dennis might be able to tap into his Mongolian potential after visiting a Mongolian palace.
 
The issue is we're assuming that Insuricare has a low DC but if it doesn't we'd be best assigning Mirage to that instead

1) We need a hero that can replace Goofy as a Diplomacy hero which they both might be able to do but it's easier to justify sparing Wendy than Kitsune

2) Tobe isn't a bad Occult hero and for all we know he could get a bonus from Golden Fan

3) From what I've seen what we're researching is still heavily debated and I feel we're not researching AI it's because we're waiting to recruit Wendy first

4) We clearly intend to track down Star and/or Marco who almost certainly both have Occult scores

5) We don't know anything about Kitsune but we do have enough meta knowledge to trust Wendy

A bonus of 31 for a DC 70 action isn't great, especially on something as important as recruiting a new hero

And since the whole point of recruiting Wendy is to have a Diplomacy hero to replace Goofy I don't mind using him one more time before giving him his break
There is nothing important to it as there is no difference between a normal success and critical success. We only need to roll higher than 30 and that will be enough.

There's no promising that Star/Marco will be availabe to be recruited once we found them. There's a chance we will have to go on a Quest like what happened with Donald's search. I am only asking for who is the most beneficial for us to recruit first. We are currently focusing on Dino and Spaceship so that means we are only going to go back on AI after two turns. We can Recruit Wendy directly after Kitsune. Much more efficient and won't leave them standing around doing personal action.

If you really want a Diplomacy Hero assign LOVEMUFFIN to buy Lee Industries. Janus Lee also had 3 Stars on Diplomacy just like Kitsune and Wendy.
 
They are trying to destroy the armies that Felldrake has sealed away. It is the plot of the canon show and we know that it is happening (with alterations of course). We might be able to Diplomacy our way into getting the 3 Caballeros and the adventure goddess (can't remember her name) into collaborating, but not really sure on that. We are probably safe to bring Dennis to Xanadu. Though I still don't see what benefit Dennis would give us. Well, Dennis might be able to tap into his Mongolian potential after visiting a Mongolian palace.
Like I said, he reframes the action. Russ might, as you say, object to us picking up Felldrake's world conquering army. I personally doubt it, because he has no problem with the American government and overwhelming force is its traditional thing, and it's not like leaving all this shit lying around is great either, but if it's a concern, sending Dennis along should alleviate it. Because if we send out Russ with dennis, instead of our actions being "sending out employees to pick up powerful occult items," it's "sending out our employees to find Donald, and picking up items on the side." The latter is a common toon (especially the duck family) staple, and is extremely unlikely to be something that Russ considers a serious issue.
 
Like I said, he reframes the action. Russ might, as you say, object to us picking up Felldrake's world conquering army. I personally doubt it, because he has no problem with the American government and overwhelming force is its traditional thing, and it's not like leaving all this shit lying around is great either, but if it's a concern, sending Dennis along should alleviate it. Because if we send out Russ with dennis, instead of our actions being "sending out employees to pick up powerful occult items," it's "sending out our employees to find Donald, and picking up items on the side." The latter is a common toon (especially the duck family) staple, and is extremely unlikely to be something that Russ considers a serious issue.
Yes. Russ has no issues with the American government.

Russ's Stats said:
Flouting the Government: -20 (Russ is very loyal to the American government, and is a bit miffed you're acting in open defiance of its control...)

The Stars and Stripes Forever: Agent Russ is unshakably loyal to the ideals of America.
Doof, a tinpot dictator, assembling a world-conquering army is something which would concern Russ. He is not an idiot. He will notice what we are doing, especially as we would be using him to actually get the first part of the army!
 
30 Learning isn't all that good compared to 38 or 40. I don't think that your proposals are really worth it. Wendy will also help us get our AI research.
Expain why exactly it isn't worth it beyond numbers while you are ignoring the rest of my reasons? 😡
I am thinking of the best place to allocate our resources without being too focused on one place in order to get the best overall gains. If you are so quickly to dismiss me like that then I could say that you are paying too close attention to the nice new shiny while ignoring everything else.
 
Expain why exactly it isn't worth it beyond numbers while you are ignoring the rest of my reasons?
I am thinking of the best place to allocate our resources without being too focused on one place in order to get the best overall gains. If you are so quickly to dismiss me like that then I could say that you are paying too close attention to the nice new shiny while ignoring everything else.
I would rather have Wendy research AI improvements than what you propose. Hego, for example, has a higher chance of successfully upgrading our Normbots. Decentralizing our Normbots, while important, should wait until we've finished our Normbot upgrades.

Wendy is simply the optimal choice. Kitsune can wait until September/October.
 
I personally think social media would be a good choice this round.

Give us more money for the auction, increase reputation, give tech edge, open up new options.
 
I would rather have Wendy research AI improvements than what you propose. Hego, for example, has a higher chance of successfully upgrading our Normbots. Decentralizing our Normbots, while important, should wait until we've finished our Normbot upgrades.

Wendy is simply the optimal choice. Kitsune can wait until September/October.
We recruit Wendy this turn would at least leave her doing personal action for one turn as we are currently focusing on Dino and Space Research. Recruiting Kitsune this turn would let us have a Hero Unit better than 10 Stats doing National Action while Janna goes on Quest and Felldrake training. It is better to recruit Kitsune and then Wendy so that we can have them focus on National Actions immediately after we recruited them instead of having them focus on Personal Action. Much more efficient.

It is better having Coyote upgrading the Normbots to let them have the ACME upgrade as well. Only Norm Prime has them and it was because of Coyote.
 
I like to imagine that some of the villain victories in setting that are really touched on strongly went decently for the heroes, with the heroes just leaving because the odds were against them or something.

Specifically thinking about Jake and Rose from American Dragon, the Huntsmen are mentioned in some of the Doc's but none of the specific characters are, so their fates are pretty up in the air. I like to imagine the two just left the country or something to avoid the whole Romeo and Juliet/West Side Story Lovers/Enemies double death thing.
 
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I like to imagine that some of the villain victories in setting that are really touched on strongly went decently for the heroes, with the heroes just leaving because the odds were against them or something.

Specifically thinking about Jake and Rose from American Dragon, the Huntsmen are mentioned in some of the Doc's but none of the character are, so their fates are pretty up in the air. I like to imagine the two just left the country or something to avoid the whole Rome and Juliet/West Side Story Lovers/Enemies double death thing.
The Huntsclan is a worldwide organization. Leaving the country wouldn't exactly work, plus there's the whole thing with dealing with the Dark Dragon that would still loom over the scenario.
 
See Nystical's post for the GalFEd ship action. Additionally, space is likely to open up a whole new quest line which will see benefits towards the end of it. I'd rather start it once we put out one of our many fires.
I don't want a space program. I want to unlock the mystery box of the GalFed ship and find out what's inside. Not all of that tech is going to be space-specific. Better computers, for instance.

What about the Toxin? It's got a pretty set payout, it doesn't appear to unlock any extra research trees, and it gets it off our backlog.
@Made in Heaven , is the resiniferatoxin action a genetics action for Jumba purposes?

As for Russ, I agree, but only if
A) There aren't separate actions for finding Star/Marco
B) The DC for Investigate Toffee is within reach

It's also possible the Wing the Hawk action is gone. The only action we can be certain remains that hurts Doom is Investigate LA Crime
Then the correct response is to write in [DOOM-HURTING INTRIGUE ACTION] in the plan vote, not to specify something else.

Again, if we're ever actually going to defeat Judge Doom or even stop him from hurting us, we're going to have to keep hitting him. We can't just poke his territory once every three turns and expect good results. Petty skirmishing is indecisive; follow-up attacks are critical. I get that opposing Toffee is also important, don't get me wrong! But we shouldn't entirely forget all our old and ongoing problems just because of that.

Toffee hasn't jumped so high in importance that with three Intrigue actions available we should point all of them at Toffee or anti-Toffee actions.

The problem with the SRA is that, well, it's not really in reach. We have a +50 bonus and it's DC 100. We could mitigate this with personal attention, but we don't have the personal actions for it. Otherwise, failing it is just a waste of a turn, and critfailing it (a 20% chance with goofy) could be a disaster. Now, if our "learn about the super scene" dropped the DC, it's a much more reasonable action to take, especially since Mr. Lee is also a diplo hero and on the menu to be recruited. But as is I just can't countenance that risk.
OK, as long as you recognize that right now we are in a state of uncertainty as to the DC of the action and a whole lot of other important context. So it would be premature to rule this action out, especially when our resident metahuman expert is in favor of it and we're actively trying to form an alliance with Shego.

I'd honestly rather just not use Jumba for any non Genetics/Galfed actions. If we have him doing something with genetics + stewardship or whatever, and want to have Lizzie do resinferatoxin, that seems cool, but otherwise it seems better to wait for Von Drake to finish up with our AI action and then assign her to it, if we want to take that action.
Given that we have a LOT of non-genetics, non-GalFed options, in the long run arguably the optimal way to use Jumba is "one on, one off:" half the time he works on genetics, half the time on something else. The GalFed ship is unusual in that it's exempt from this rotation and will not burn off the Science Sated trait so far as I know.

I think it's just better to have the Dickens investigate Toffee. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but it is a quick action we can squeeze in before the auction and he probably has the highest chance of everyone. It might also give us leads on Star and Marco.
Star and Marco are doing everything they can to avoid Toffee; why would we expect to learn much about their whereabouts in his territory where his minions would be scouring the land for clues already?

The best argument for investigating Toffee before the auction is to warn Xanatos about him. Except that actually finding Star or Marco would be at least as effective a way to accomplish that, and the Dickens Agency can't do two actions at once.

Who can we afford to send to Xanadu next turn? Janna and Genghis Khan won't have much Diplomacy, Stewardship, or Learning.
Temujin actually has Stewardship 22, which puts him pretty close to the top.

Remember, the guy has successfully organized and kept his act together at almost every level of the human experience, from being a personal nomadic hunter in the woods up to restructuring an entire nomad civilization into an all-conquering army with organization and capabilities like the world had never known before. He's pretty sharp.

The problem is that Janna has terrible Stewardship, making it awkward to have her in charge.

In that case, I think that's an argument for sending Dennis with Russ. Because this map is also a hint as to where to find Donald, which is something I expect Russ to have exactly 0 issues with, and all things considered "going on an adventure and happening to pick up cool stuff on the way" is a framing that I don't expect him to have any problems with helping us out on. Also, Dennis getting more loyalty is unlikely to hurt and we don't need him for national actions.
Not a bad idea. The problem is that Dennis is then there purely to boost Russ's statline, and to serve the (admittedly useful) role of blocking the first enemy Martial attack.
 
@Made in Heaven , is the resiniferatoxin action a genetics action for Jumba purposes?
1: Your ping broke somehow.
2: I don't think it's genetics, but if I remember properly, it's confirmed to proc Sated Science due to legally being a bio-weapon of mass destruction.

And on the Doom front, may I once again bring up turning the Hawk into a Mole? No, not literally, I mean him being our mole into Doom's affairs!
 
The Huntsclan is a worldwide organization. Leaving the country wouldn't exactly work, plus there's the whole thing with dealing with the Dark Dragon that would still loom over the scenario.

but it makes them a lot harder to find. How exactly are they going to find them in the Australian outback?

considering New York isn't on fire I don't think he got out.
 
If they don't know that Jake is a dragon that makes things easier, and Rose does have those ninja skills all the Huntsmen have which usually includes things like disguise and covering your tracks. I think as long as they got out of the city where people who actually knew her were located they'd be able to pull it off.

Plus, they do have access to magic and potions, gotta believe there's something for changing appearances there.
 
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Wendy is a much safer recruit that Kitsu. We've been repeatedly told that hero cards to not guarantee availability. It's asking for a wasted action. By contrast, we know Wendy is still doing her show. Something that means she's much more likely to be available.

Yes... but all hero units, besides the ones that are specifically stated to be, which Wendy has not been, have a hidden % that they'll already be hired by somebody else. So, while Wendy may or may not have a less % for that than Kitsune. Plus, just because she's doing her show, that doesn't mean that someone else hasn't either already hired her or is now funding her show and has, essentially, gained her as their hero unit.

So, trying to argue that, if we fail to recruit Kitsune it would be a failed action, when, since we would have also failed the roll to recruit Wendy, it's possible she would have already been recruited. We won't really know who on our rolodex has been recruited by someone else unless we actually try to hire them.

1) We need a hero that can replace Goofy as a Diplomacy hero which they both might be able to do but it's easier to justify sparing Wendy than Kitsune

Um... actually, no, it isn't. Kitsune probably has a higher Occult stat than Janna... but, when we get our Occult stat unlocked, we could still use Tobe or Janna as our Occult hero that turn while letting Kitsune do a diplo action. Plus, as we do have a lot of AI related stuff to dox it's probable that Wendy won't be used as a Diplo hero for multiple turns, forcing us to use Goofy. Especially if we want to completely finish doing the base AI research, as that, similar to fusion power, seems to take multiple turns even when we do succeed at it. Plus, the mysterious signal action is probably going to be AI related, so we'll want her to do something about it, and if we end up needing to go do a Quest to meet Drossel, she'll probably need to be sent on it...

... basically, unless we want to do only the high DC Occult stuff, like, really high DC stuff, we can easily just use Janna and have Kitsune do Diplo rolls, freeing up Goofy.

3) From what I've seen what we're researching is still heavily debated and I feel we're not researching AI it's because we're waiting to recruit Wendy first

Yes... but, at the moment, we can sit on researching AIs for another turn... or we could just use one of our current Learning heroes on Doppelganger AIs then, once we recruit Wendy, we can just have her focus on doing AI related actions.

4) We clearly intend to track down Star and/or Marco who

Will probably will unlock a quest that needs to be done before we recruit them... and which will probably require us to unlock dimensional tech and a second Occult hero as I imagine such a quest would have quite a few Occult rolls, most likely high ones. So we'll need to either recruit anyway before going on said quest or recruit another Occult hero... who may not have as high of a Diplo stat as Kitsune seems to have.

Wendy is simply the optimal choice. Kitsune can wait until September/October.

Eh... no, as I just pointed out, and have repeatedly pointed out, Kitsune is the best, immediate, choice for Occult actions, Diplo actions, and, as it will undoubtedly require a Quest just like looking for Donald does, the Quest we'll unlock to find Star and Marco.
 
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