Dennis is better spent finding a Master for Kung Fool. It is probably better to have Hego upgrade our Normbots. Russ won't break the Masquerade barring a critical success. Dinosaur farming is probably a Stewardship action. Tobe should be put on Research Dance Magic because we don't have a high enough Occult stat. Your Xanadu quest has some startling weaknesses, like Diplomacy. Monogram should be working on reorganizing OWCA. The musical should be put off a bit longer, in my opinion. It is better to have Doof tinker with inators out of safety concerns. Janna's psychoanalysis can be put off. Weredrago2 pointed out that we have left Stanley in jail for a while now, it is best to simply get him out and contributing to Evil Society. The Dickens are better investigating Toffee.
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I mostly agree with @Nystical but I do see the logic in having a Super be the one rebranding Insuricare and would be up for switching things around depending on the DC
As for Xanadu while I'd like to do it before the auction I don't see it happening and one could argue that that's a good thing since we might be able to get something at the auction that could help us there
As for the team you chose, it's mostly good but Monogram is kinda superfluous and Lizzy actively makes the teams Diplomacy worse which is the teams weakest point
kfrar
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All of the statblocks below include the +7 PMC bonus.
Option 1: We use Tobe as our second Intrigue unit, assign someone non-Occult to the easiest Occult action in the hope they learn something or skip Occult entirely, and send Khan, Janna, Max, and Mirage on the quest, giving us (Martial: 96, Diplomacy: 46, Stewardship: 52, Intrigue: 53, Learning: 37, Occult: 34). This is my preferred action, unless we can give Mirage a directly anti-SRA action this turn. (And if we really don't want to take Tobe off Occult, Queen Lizzie has a passable Intrigue score that we could use in a pinch.)
Option 2: We do the same, but give poor Max a break (Martial: 91, Diplomacy: 46, Stewardship: 52, Intrigue: 53, Learning: 30, Occult: 29). (Note: This is the only non-Max option I list, because in every non-Mirage comp he adds 3-5 to almost every stat.)
Option 3: We cross our fingers that we unlock a Learning or Martial hero from one of the remaining Interludes or the Random Event (or that the Council stuff allows us to shake free another hero somehow) and shuffle Ludivine over to the quest with Khan, Janna, and Max, giving us (Martial: 96, Diplomacy: 42, Stewardship: 43, Intrigue: 50, Learning: 59, Occult: 34).
Option 4: We shake free Wile. Coyote, perhaps by using Jumba as a Steward with Lizzie as our other Learning hero, and send him with Khan, Janna, and Max for (Martial: 96, Diplomacy: 40, Stewardship: 51, Intrigue: 50, Learning: 40, Occult: 34)
Option 5: We just send Khan, Janna, and Max for (Martial: 96, Diplomacy: 40, Stewardship: 43, Intrigue: 50, Learning: 37, Occult: 34) .
And more options may turn up when the turn comes.
We have viable options.
This turn's as good a turn as any. With DC 40 Reach out to Shego being one of our actions, we only need one Diplo hero this turn, which - along with the popular relatively low-DC Stewardship actions and the presence of our Ninjas - means we can use Mirage for a quest this turn. I'd rather stick her on something SRA related because Mirage could really use that personally, but if people want to stick her on an unrelated Intrigue action anyway, then I'd rather send her to Xanadu.
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The reason I swapped them around is because we're rebranding Insuricare so that it will be more super friendly, correct? Who would be better in this regard? A bunch of D-List scientists or an actual super? Besides, Lee Industries is just buying things. Not a lot to mess up. Still though, I may just nix the Xanadu plan entirely, considering we have too much to do and not enough heroes to both do them and send a competent team to Xanadu to check it out
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If we're sending Max, is it at all plausible to send Russ as well? I know that a hypothetical lineup of Russ/Khan/Janna/Max/wild would be expensive, opportunity-cost wise, but Russ's Tooned In is very powerful.
Let's not get too attached to our plans people; I have a feeling we're going to have some surprises with these next few interludes. I foresee some heavy plan restructuring in our future.
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If we're not Wild Mass Guessing at plans that probably won't work, are we really an SV Questing thread? What would even be the point?
I don't like sending Max on the quest. He hasn't even gotten over Chicken Itza yet and +5 isn't really worth it when we can bring a hero that's simply better.
I think the best combination would be Janna, Genghis Khan, Mirage, and Lizzy. Either Khan or Janna would be the best choices for leader. I'm ehhh on the idea of taking Tobe away from Occult. Mirage has higher Intrigue than Tobe anyways. His only value is the Occult stat.
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I think if Max is the only toon, or if Russ and/or Janna are there too, he is sure to have a better time.
Plus, it wouldn't be a hot and humid jungle environment!
kfrar
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Pulling Russ off of national actions with his 36 Intrigue, Secret Keeper, and Tooned In is just so painful. I don't want us to feel the need to send the absolute best of the best to every quest we take, because sometimes we'll need Khan, Russ, and Janna on other things.
Chicken Itza, ultimately, worked out fine, and the proposed comps are certainly stronger than that one.
Regarding Max, that's what the Khan/Janna/Mirage proposal's for.
Regarding Lizzie, she makes everyone's diplo worse and that's a weakpoint, so I'd rather have her cover for someone else and send them instead.
Regarding Tobe, Mirage's Intrigue is higher but Tobe's is our next best after that. If we need Mirage elsewhere, be it in Diplo, Stewardship, a Personal Action, or a Quest, Tobe's a logical replacement unless we've got some very low DC Intrigue actions to take.
I have seen the plans that have been suggested so far and I have two questions.
First, why are we focusing on Wendy and not Kitsune? Occult right now is our weakest link with only 1 effective Occult Hero and Wendy is only usefull in lowering the DC of AI. We obviously not going to be focusing on AI in the next two turn with us focusing on Dino and Spaceship while instead we are going to have our single Occult Hero going on the Auction and then Xanadu. Isn't it more efficient if we recruit Kitsune first and then Wendy the turn after? Then we can fill in all the National Action with people that is actually specializing on them.
Two. Why do people put on Goofy in recruiting when he doesn't really needed there and Max could do it in his stead? The DC on recruiting are 70 while combined Diplo Stat of Doof and Max are 31. Use XP on it and then we will only need 30+ Rolls to succeed with no chance of Critical Failure. Goofy need to finish his Personal Action, we had been pulling him too much from there already.
First, why are we focusing on Wendy and not Kitsune? Occult right now is our weakest link with only 1 effective Occult Hero and Wendy is only usefull in lowering the DC of AI. We obviously not going to be focusing on AI in the next two turn with us focusing on Dino and Spaceship while instead we are going to have our single Occult Hero going on the Auction and then Xanadu. Isn't it more efficient if we recruit Kitsune first and then Wendy the turn after? Then we can fill in all the National Action with people that is actually specializing on them.
Two. Why do people put on Goofy in recruiting when he doesn't really needed there and Max could do it in his stead? The DC on recruiting are 70 while combined Diplo Stat of Doof and Max are 31. Use XP on it and then we will only need 30+ Rolls to succeed with no chance of Critical Failure. Goofy need to finish his Personal Action, we had been pulling him too much from there already.
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Wile seems like kind of a waste on that team. Like, he's a good generalist, but not as good as khan or tooned in russ, so he's not leading, and his other stats aren't really high enough to poke through. Like, assuming Russ is team leader on that squad because he really should be:
Martial: Khan blows him out of the water. So does Janna.
Diplomacy: Wile has 15, 3 less than max. He adds nothing
Stewardship: WIle has 22, but so does Genghis. He adds nothing.
Intrigue: Wile has 16 Intrigue, four less than Janna (9 less with Doof Troop)
Learning: Wile has 21 Learning, 3 more than Max
Occult: Wile has no occult
Sending one of our best generalists to add +3 learning seems like the definition of a waste.
He adds +5 to Janna. We can't just "send someone better." Max is uniquely powerful in a way that our other heroes are not.
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Do we want to let the Federal government know about Xanadu? I think Russ would be better off in LA seeing what they think of DEI. I don't like the idea of it.
Where exactly is the rule regarding Lizzy making Diplo rolls worse? I still don't think that Max will like being scent on what is essentially a reskinned Chicken Itza. It probably will go better, but I don't like it.
The reason why we've been going for Wendy is that she could free Ludivine up for personal actions like the teaching action. 30+ is far too much of a risk, in my opinion.
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Seconding @Black.Horus recruiting Kitsune should be a higher priority than Wendy.
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I third. Bias or not, I want our magical fox lady of questionable morality
Wendy is a much safer recruit that Kitsu. We've been repeatedly told that hero cards to not guarantee availability. It's asking for a wasted action. By contrast, we know Wendy is still doing her show. Something that means she's much more likely to be available.
Second, I for one don't want a 30% failure rate if I can help it.
Third, Goofy doesn't 'need' to finish his personal action. His trait has applied a grand total of once in this entire quest and it was only a -5. And if we want to boost his loyalty, Max's 'talk with Goofy' is noted as explicitly making Goofy very happy so I imagine it has rewards. So I'd rather have Max talking with Goofy and Goofy diplomacy than the other way around.
So the Fed's know about Xanadu, we should already be looting it before they can get anything, together. Like, we might find LA enough of a priority that we don't put Russ on it, but I consider the Fed angle low-risk.
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It's on her character sheet. Of course, the same trait also gives +5 to intrigue, so unless we have a reason to think diplomacy is more valuable than intrigue, specifically, on this quest, I don't think it's fair to call it a negative.
That's why I want to send Russ with Max when we do do Xanadu. Narratively, Russ excells at avoiding the kind of negative toon shenanigans that made max miserable in Chichen Itza, and mechanically, he adds enough stats as party leader that, when combined with Felldrake and Genghis lowering DCs, we should expect to have far fewer failures in general.
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MiH has said before that he will make a note before a quest becomes invalid. Look at the excavate action. If we'd had better occult, we might've wound up with a spare stewardship action.
We should spend a single turn boosting the stats of Khan and Janna before we send them on a bunch of quests and conflicts
We should spend a single turn boosting the stats of Khan and Janna before we send them on a bunch of quests and conflicts
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No, I meant wild, like a free slot, filled with whoever we could spare or just no one. Sorry for the confusion.
We already had Lizzie that we can toss between Martial and Learning. 30+ is too much for you when we have been doing stuff with only 50% chance of success?
It is literally said she was selling fireworks to Janna in her info sheet. If that's not free then I don't know what is. There also will not be any risk of angering some Kings like Wendy with Funintelligence.
Also like what do I said to Mr Hobbit. You are worried on 70% success rate when we have been doing actions with 50% success rate?
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I recognize that. That fifth spot could be taken up by, say, Tobe. I wouldn't like it, but it would grant an additional +10 Occult. I have also expressed concern on how it could deal with Max's loyalty.
I'd rather that the Feds not know what we would be journeying around the world for. These places do hold a world conquering army after all.
Ahh. The trait gives a +5 to Martial anyways. In that case Khan, Janna, Max, and Mirage are the best choices. I don't want the Feds to know that we are assembling a world-conquering army and the LA crime would probably be the best place for him.
Xanadu probably will go the furthest in boosting Khan and Janna. Khan because it is the court of his direct heir, Kublai Khan. Janna because it probably will go further in boosting Felldrake. If we wait we will have to take Xanadu in November/December, as Janna will be busy in September/October helping us with the auction.
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I have no doubt that Xanadu will boost Khan and Janna, but equally, that boost is almost certainly going to correspond to succeeding on our rolls. They will succeed more on their rolls with a better statline. Right now - we do not urgently need them for anything.
How exactly is that first statement relevant at all? Those actions have been taken because we had no choice. I don't want to lose out on recruiting a new hero.
I do see where you are coming from. It's either boost Janna and Khan this turn and put off Xanadu until November/December or take Xanadu this turn and put off boosting them for later. I'm honestly more inclined to do the former now that I think about it. Getting a Dinosaur through Chinese border security sounds like it would be fun.
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In that case, I think that's an argument for sending Dennis with Russ. Because this map is also a hint as to where to find Donald, which is something I expect Russ to have exactly 0 issues with, and all things considered "going on an adventure and happening to pick up cool stuff on the way" is a framing that I don't expect him to have any problems with helping us out on. Also, Dennis getting more loyalty is unlikely to hurt and we don't need him for national actions.
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Don't fight to hard over this. Still have some other stuff to get through before plan can become solid.
Never know when a kat might do a nemesis action we need to throw a Mongolian leader at.
Never know when a kat might do a nemesis action we need to throw a Mongolian leader at.